Topic: chinese bookmakers with tf gaming platform NO KYC - page 12. (Read 3204 times)

Well, of course, the use of a VPN now cannot achieve 100% anonymity, because it’s true that with the use of modern technologies, an Internet search specialist, and even more sensitive organs, calculate with subtlety the final IP with which the user arrived on the network.  However, VPN applications actively advertise their services, earning on paid subscriptions. 
This business is thriving.  But for the average Internet user, a VPN certainly masks your location a bit. 
Of course, a VPN is required to use blocked sites in a certain country.  Including some gambling sites.

harsh  but at least he shows concern for others , maybe because we already knew about 1xbit and no one from our Forum that will fell from their ads.

I am also wanted to know how did he come to that conclusion of 90% of gamblers from that site had been blocked?

not sure if this is indeed similar to what had happened .

Actually using VPN will doesn't make you become anonymous since the central party can still know your real IP address and if you use the same address or linked with centralized exchange address, the casino can cooperate with the centralized exchange to ask your personal information. VPN is just only use to mask your IP address that most people use because they want to access restricted site, this because they live in where gambling got banned etc.

The use of a VPN always means that a person does not want to show where he really is.  This is some kind of disguise and a desire to remain anonymous.  In many cases this is justified.  Especially if a person is threatened with punishment or trouble, for example at work. 

But of course, you should always keep in mind that if you use a VPN, then at any time the casino may require you to KYC when you want to withdraw the money you won.  And here, your use of a VPN may well be regarded as an additional argument for masking your identity.  And the casino may even make it extremely difficult for you to transfer the money you win.

Well I have been thinking and a big reason why in several Reputation threads is because in a casino when a person wins they are not recognized just for having used a VPN, that seems to me something that is not right on the part of the casino, because if the people who won if they had lost, then are they going to return the money that the player spent? because it's something like: "what's good for turkey is the same for turkey" I think things should be like that, otherwise I think it wouldn't make sense that they could do something with the VPN, every casino should realize when a user uses VPN, so if so, as soon as it is detected, you must immediately say not to play anymore, a bot can do it.

But in the event that a casino detects something like this and the person makes a deposit and loses his money, then I am very sure that the casino will not do anything to tell the client that he entered with VPN, and how he played with his funds, because the casino will it will return them, so those things are what one says that it is always good to take into account.

dude you sound too precautious for someone who advertises 1xbit LMAO

Of course, when 1.5 billion people in China cannot gamble freely due to the decision of the government of this country, then the only option is to use a VPN. 
I don't blame China's leaders for making such tough ban decisions.  This is an internal affair of this country and obviously the Chinese government has a good reason to impose bans.  However, the number of players from China is huge and of course crypto casinos cannot afford to lose such a huge customer market.  Therefore, I think even if the local authorities force the casino to refuse to use customer accounts via VPN, this will cause quite strong opposition from the casino administrators. 
They may well change jurisdictions or even actually change the location to those countries where the requirements for working with VPNs are not so strict. 

So for a long time there will be an opportunity to play through a VPN.

There are many things that come into context here, first of all things when it comes to KYC is something that bothers many, but when there are platforms that do not require KYC they lack some licenses, then this becomes a problem but, because it is acceptance, then you cannot have both, Licenses + No KYC, that is a combination that in these times is almost impossible, because a platform that says No KYC implies that it may lack authenticity, if so they will not enter the platform and if there is many Chinese users will obviously not do anything, and that keeps them further away, the non-use of VPN+KYC is a market that is being left behind and not to win.

In that you are absolutely right, for me one of the best ways to attack this problem is with the use of VPN and where casinos are quite smart and want to win a market and a very large demand they should accept VPNs that can allow them to play, With such, if we start to see, what interests a casino is that people play and have enough relevance and traffic, that is what gives it life and above all money, the business model is that it has many clients, players who make a difference, I think that is the life of a casino, it should be noted that in China there are many people and many like to play, so why not allow them?

90%, that's too high. I think the site you are referring is a popular gambling site, so why would they block gamblers?

Please mate, is this information reliable? you need to provide some source.

Of course, it is correct that the use of a VPN is allowed in many casinos.

  But there is a serious danger if the player wins a large amount in such a casino.  The casino administration may require personal identification in order to pay out winnings.  It could of course be KYC and then how would the player explain why he is using a VPN?  Moreover, VPN is in any case an element of disguising a person's location.  And in such conditions, the player may not receive his winnings in the end, which will be both insulting and unfair at the same time. 
And by the way, what should players do, for example, from China, where there are such strict bans on gambling, if the Chinese do not have the money to travel to another country for a while to try to get their winnings there.  It seems to me that it is very, very difficult. 
So a VPN has a lot of downsides when you use it. 

And do not forget, by the way, that some casinos, following the rules introduced by local regulators, may suddenly stop accessing your account via VPN.  It is quite possible.

I think that the use of the VPN should not be left aside, it is preferable that a person has access regardless of what country they are from, if a person makes their deposit and manages to do everything like play, have fun, I think that is to feel well served, In addition, the mere fact of using VPN for a casino is the reason that things will be doing well, it is not good to close the doors to the clients, in a casino it is all the clients, but you have to see how some new casinos do everything to attract players, they pay whatever is in marketing so that they can have traffic and can achieve many things, contests and everything related to it are just marketing tactics and everything so that more people enter the casino, that's why is that they should allow the use of vpn.

I think that as soon as the regulators of the casino activity give instructions that players must pass KYC, the number of players will immediately drop sharply and the casino may even go bankrupt.  No casino needs bankruptcy by itself.  The same applies to prohibitions on using casinos and VPNs to enter the site.  Also, the casino can have serious losses in income. 
So I think most casinos will resist the introduction of such restrictions in every possible way.  And resistance is possible, for example, by changing jurisdiction. 
And in other ways too.

Yes, it seems that casinos must also protect themselves by the rules they must obey so as not to be sanctioned, although over time I think that the regulators of not allowing KYC are always at the order of what their clients can express, at the moment in that there are casinos that do not offer so many rules and turn out to be reliable, casinos must change their acceptance pools, they cannot afford to lose their customers who have cost them so much effort in marketing and traffic, this is a direct consequence of what they must do to guarantee their players, in another instance you cannot put a balance only in one direction because everything would come to a swing, neither in favor of the players nor in favor of the casino.

If his location is included in the list of prohibited countries in the TOS then it is not recommended to use VPN access because if the casino asks for KYC it will not be accepted, so the account cannot make withdrawals or even the account can be frozen. He needs to weigh the risks before accessing an online casino using a VPN. Like your suggestion above, he may find alternative casinos that are legal and accessible without any prohibition rules.

No, no one is forced to use a VPN. VPN's are only optional and use to conceal your self but it's being misused for some illegal activities and there are some who are using it to access blocked sites. The one that you said there isn't really a disadvantage because it's easy to turn off a VPN if you want to browse again the sites that your country supports.

The true disadvantage of using a VPN is that if the casino catches you, your funds are going to get confiscated and then you will also be ask to submit your KYC. We shouldn't only turn off our VPN but we need to uninstall it for our own safety. I am sure that there are still casinos out there that are fully legal in our country.

I think that quite a lot of people in this world are forced to use a VPN. 
However, its use has two main disadvantages. 
VPN opens access to some sites blocked in specific countries.  But at the same time, some sites in the same country are blocked if they go through the servers of the VPN itself.  This makes it necessary to constantly turn the VPN on or off on devices and gadgets.  And it's definitely very inconvenient. 
This is one of the downsides of using the internet.

where you seen thay blocked 90% of account from btc365 . can you share any informative link as you said here ? they are still alive on Online and They are a licensed casino . they are licensed by E-Gambling Montenegro .

It is a big problem that Chinese citizens face because of scammers, for me this is something that should not exist in China or in any other country, regarding the prohibitions imposed the truth does not make sense, we all know that by pure inspection the majority of people do not pay attention to governments, because a government always wants to take away the freedoms of its people, and above all, it almost puts its hands in the pocket of private economies, that is something that should not be allowed, and I think that due to this lack of irreverence, it has been possible to ban many people on many occasions, some services that are fun, and this is something that should not be allowed, except what has to do with cryptocurrencies, now the problem is VPNs when they try to have fun, everything as it is integrated so that some people do not have access to play.

Absolutely correct remark. 

Many people have a need to hide their true whereabouts. 
And for the most part, these are not scammers, but simply these citizens are looking through a VPN for a way to bypass the blocking of some sites in countries where this is practiced. 
But casino devs may simply be afraid of regulatory reprisals when they allow full VPN access.  Such permissions can harm them or even lead to the blocking of the casino itself if they operate in a critically tough jurisdiction. 
So the casino devs can also be understood.

What happens is that they shouldn't put so much trouble on the matter, for me that is something of a concept, a person who enters a casino should not be prohibited in any way, if things are like that that reduces the demand for the casino and it is not well, a casino always depends on its good reputation and above all on its players and customers, if there is a potential player who can spend a lot of money on a platform, will they say no? So those are the things that should not be wasted, also the competition here in the casinos is very great, these things should be taken into account to become bigger, in addition, it operates with crypto, and with crypto there should be no restrictions .



I have seen that some casinos have the use of VPN as an option, I think they have understood that this is not the way to go, because in some way a person will always want to have access to many platforms to have fun, and it is in very bad taste that they are prohibited However, it is true, some casino casinos, when they detect that a player is using the VPN, prohibit them and in fact block their funds, which does not seem appropriate to me, I think they are playing with something they should not because obviously a person when playing in an casino win or lose that already has to do with them and not with the help of a VPN, if the VPN made a person win, maybe they could do something, but to have access to a site? If I were the owner of a site and I see that they enter with a VPN, I would be flattered, because despite all the competition there is, they choose my casino.