Topic: Christianity is Poison - page 19. (Read 52642 times)

This is just the tip of the iceberg. I have read that less than 1% of those kids who were abused by the Catholic priests are likely to report the crime to the police. If this 1% cost the Vatican some $4 billion, then I wonder how much they would spend if everyone reports these crimes.

Difficult to assume anything about religion. It will always we a big issue for a humanity

The vast majority of the $4 BILLION was paid in settlements out of court to the victims (the rest was spent on lawyers)... the priests were not sent to prison, and did not even lose their jobs... they are all still priests working at other churches... that's how the Vatican operates... bribe the victims, and keep the priest out of jail... seems very unholy/immoral/evil to me

Shouldn't the Vatican be interested in putting these priests in prison?  Draining the swamp?  Saving $4 Billion?

Why do they waste insane amounts of money to keep monsters out of prison?

Why do they support these monsters?

Why to Catholics still support the Vatican?!?

This whole mess is just insane to me... If I was a member of an organization that spent $4 Billion defending child molesters, I'd leave that organization... I would not care if they said I would go to hell if I left, they are clearly evil people, and liars

I am sure that the vast majority of this amount was spent on defending the pedophile clerics. A few months back, there was a news story from Mexico. A Catholic priest had raped some 30 orphaned indigenous girls in the state of Oaxaca. Unfortunately, the priest himself was HIV positive, and he probably passed on the disease to many of his victims. The last time I heard, the Catholic church was spending huge amounts for the legal defense and medical treatment of the priest. But there was no mention about the victims anywhere.  

http://www.carbonated.tv/news/mexico-hiv-infected-priest-walks-free-sex-crime-30-girls

Catholic isn't Christian. They believe in salvation by good works, angels, Mary, the saints, the Pope, and who-knows-what-else? That isn't Christian, even though they talk some of the Bible and say that they are the church of Jesus on Earth.

As of 2015, the catholic church has spent over $4 BILLION defending pedophile priests...

The Catholic Church Has Paid Out $3,994,797,060.10 as a Result of the Sex Abuse Scandals
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/04/the-catholic-church-has-paid-out-3994797060-10-as-a-result-of-the-sex-abuse-scandals/

If everyone practiced love and forgiveness as Jesus instructed, then the world would not be in the state that it's in.

Christianity saved the world from chaos and dispare during the last two thousend years. Be thankfull for that.

Pope was the one who pardoned these perverts and he even promoted some of them to various high ranking positions in the Vatican. The current pope is a typical hypocrite. He claims that he is against pedophilia, and at the same time he is promoting these pedo-priests.

As Karl Marx said, Religion is opiate of the masses. Not just christianity, but all religions are poison.

The 10-commandments are not based on the code of Hammurabi. Don't take my word for it read them both yourself.
http://evangelcs.org/news/2012/the-code-of-hammurabi-vs-the-law-of-moses/

The Code of Hammurabi vs. the Law of Moses

There is an insufficient fear of God and this can lead to horrific evil some of the worst of which you highlight above. Believing in God or being a priest does not in any way stop someone from committing evil deeds. A genuine fear of God however often does. Societies that abandon God can embrace evil and call it good for good becomes subjective and can defined by whomever is in power and writes the laws.

Haters are everywhere, it's an endless fight in every topic over the world.

All I care to say is, the poison that can be religion, can be the poison that is paradigm, culture as a whole or ideology.

In the name of some God, in the name of some system (democracy) in the name of whatever dumbass belief, utter evil shit happens. You can't distinguish between religious or non Religious ideology really. Humans are shit.

And what of the popes to blame? No he can't answer for everyone. It's the fault of the position of the Church which he is obliged to support. Every religion is poison. When people will understand it they will live better. Religion imposes on people a false value.

Horny priests sodomizing the choir boys is less serious when compared to the attempts by the Vatican to shield these priests. It is the pope who should be blamed for this pathetic state of affairs. He is afraid to act against the pedos.

You don't know your history... the 10-commandments are based on previous works, such as the code of Hammurabi

Civilized society existed before christianity was invented

There is nothing new in the bible in regards to morality... it was all written down before the bible

As I have proven, our laws are NOT based on the bible... none of them

Philosophy has given morals to the people, not religion

The main reason people don't commit crimes is not because they fear god, but because they fear the police

Nobody takes the 10-commandments seriously... if they did, people wouldn't lie all the time (oh, christians lie... all the time)... Jesus said a lie is as bad as murder to god... all the commandments are the same...

People are not good because of god, they are good because of laws and police

Some people are good because they understand the philosophy behind being good, and how that makes for a better society for everyone... not because of god, never because of god...

Priests are not even afraid to rape little boys... nobody is afraid of god

You are quite wrong here Moloch. No document in world history so changed the world for the better as did the 10-commandments. Western civilization would not have developed nor can it be sustained without them.

If you are interested in why this is the case here is a short video series from Prager University (each video only 3-5 minutes) that covers the Ten Commandments and why they are indispensable in a viable human society.

The Ten Commandments: What You Should Know
https://www.prageru.com/node/164

I am the Lord Your God
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/i-am-lord-your-god

Do Not Murder
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/do-not-murder

Do Not Commit Adultery
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/do-not-commit-adultery

Do Not Steal
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/do-not-steal

Do Not Bear False Witness
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/do-not-bear-false-witness

Do Not Covet
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religionphilosophy/do-not-covet

In Christianity, there are some positive elements that teach a person a moral way of life and one can not consider this religion a poison if it is used in reasonable doses.

Besides the fact that our moral system has nothing to do with Christianity

People always point to the 10-commandments... as if they are laws or something...
1) Thou shalt have no other gods before me (not a law)
2) Thou shalt not make idols (not a law)
3) Thou shalt not take gods name in vain (not a law)
4) Honor thy father and mother (not a law)
5) Keep the sabbath holy (not a law)
6) Thou shalt not kill (finally, one that is a law, though it was a law long before Christianity... Christians did not invent "do not murder")
7) Thou shalt not commit adultery (not a law)
8} Thou shalt not steal (another law that was invented before Christianity)
9) Thou shalt not covet (not a law)
10) Thou shalt not covet (again, not a law... don't know why god has to repeat himself either)

2 out of 10 does not form the basis of modern morality... especially considering both of the commandments which happen to be laws, were already laws before the bible was even written

Beyond the 10-commandments, you have things like:
Not allowed to eat meat and dairy in the same meal (penalty = death)
Not allowed to wear clothing made from 2 different materials (penalty = death)
Not allowed to plant 2 different crops in the same field (penalty = death)
Not allowed to work or travel more than a mile from your house on Sunday (penalty = death)
Not allowed to eat pork or seafood (penalty = death)
Not allowed to rape a virgin (penalty = you must marry her) (true story, it's in the bible!)

None of this makes sense, or are laws, or have anything to do with morality...

Yeah. If all people think like that, pretty much all religion would be poison. Come on, there are a lot of religions aside from christianity and some are even a lot older. Its ok if you believe christian teachings but putting other religions in a bad light i think isn't very christian also