Topic: Christianity is Poison - page 38. (Read 52639 times)

I dont think you get the jist of this topic. I'm not Christianity but sometimes christians are the ones who broke there own commandment. Yes its true that in the olden times your faith decides you future but in our time now, faith has broken us apart. Not just christianity but other religion. I grew up as a christians and i have my faith but we cant really blame people telling this things. We may never promote violence but there is always violence everywhere.

Godbless.

Chirstianity is not a poison this is the religion which taught us to forgive others and whenever we ask from god he will reply to one ...This is the only religion in the world which seem nice to me,christanity never promote voilence and in this time period world need non violence enviroment 

Remember this when you are on your deathbed.   

The only one I trust is me, I will never be swayed by others at all, I have complete faith in me to always do the right thing.

Faith in Jesus brings the only true peace.   

You should understand that ideas, ideologies and religions can't kill others, hate people or something like this.
Only people can do it.
It's very often that people misunderstand basic ideas behind religions and do very bad things in the name of God or their own religion.
Still, we shouldn't accuse religion for it but people.

It's quite ironic because as mother teresa said "promoting peace is like establishing a war".

You dont have to beg for someone in order to bring peace, and you cant really solve peace in a jiffy and with a simple statement. It's on a persons own to find his peace.

That is a very good statement, you don't have to be religious to abide by it.

Please make peace and spread peace everywhere

Major points about all this.

1. God made it all. It was His right from the Beginning. He not only has the ability to do with His property as He wants, but He has the right to dictate how things are to be done.

2. It was God's property from the Beginning. Then man wrecked it by eating the fruit. Then God in mercy didn't destroy mankind for messing it all up. So, it all now belongs to God twice... the first when He made it all, and the second when He withheld His destruction.

3. You complain about God and His judgments. Well, God's mercy to you is the time He has left for you to change and humbly submit to Him rather than speaking against Him.

4. The final rule God will make for each one of us will be in the judgment at the last day. Badmouth God and His mercy all you want. You are still His property. He still rules you. Be thankful He has given you time to blabber your head off. If you don't turn to be on His side, you will have all eternity to suffer for it. God rules.

Your "corrections" are simply false... Have you read the bible?  Don't claim you know more about it than I do... you don't

Slavery in the bible was not some nice thing, like you pretend it was... there are plenty of quotes I could pull from the bible, such as:

Yeah, sounds nice... slaves are property, and you are allowed to beat them so long as it does not kill them within 48 hours

The bible also says slaves are property for life, and they can be passed down to your children (Leviticus 25:44)



Rape is justified on many occasions... Have you read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? Lot hands his virgin daughters to an angry mob to be raped... and this is a good thing according to god...

The bible says, "If a man rapes a virgin woman, he must marry her, and pay her father the bride price of 50 shekels" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)... I suppose that's a good way to find a wife if you happen to be a super ugly man... not very moral though

Yes the bible commands you to murder homosexuals... don't pretend you have never heard that one before... Leviticus 20:13... ring a bell?

Witches:

Genocide:


For those new to math, threescore = 60... 60 cities... if that isn't genocide, I don't know what is...


More genocide in the bible:


Let us not forget about the flood... god personally kills everyone except for 9 people...  That isn't genocide?

Well, why do you blame God? He made the universe and people to work like perfect clockwork. Then the people teamed up with the devil and destroyed the perfection.

You simply don't understand how great and gigantic and penetrating the universe is. The salvation of Jesus is doing the exact thing that you blame God for not doing. The salvation of Jesus is bringing everything back to perfection.

Since God gave all people the strength to wreck the universe the first time, he has maintained that strength for those who want to keep it that way - wrecked. Keep the wrecked universe for yourself. I and the believers in Jesus are going into the corrected universe He has prepared for us, the exact thing that you complain that God hasn't done.

How in the world retarded can you get?

He never changed his demeanor, I've read the Bible and I get a completely different impression out of it.

He literally asks us to call him Father, so that's how I'm qualified. But you do bring up a fair point about fear: we fear him because he is just. Just like children fear their earthly father when they've done wrong and know that he's not okay with that.

It would take me a long time to completely address the jealous, vindictive, misogynistic, proslavery, homophobic and genocidal god thing, but you aren't getting the whole picture taking verses out of context. Here's a few points:

  --> He literally created us so it's not jealous (in the negative sense) to want obedience.
  --> Slavery in the bible is more like indentured servitude, and God commanded that slaves be treated well and given the chance to go free periodically unless they wanted to stay. It's nothing like American slavery or modern slavery, which God condemned: “Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death” Exodus 21:16
  --> Homosexuality is a sin, but so is greed, gluttony, premarital sex, divorce, lust and turning a blind eye to the poor. God loves gay people just like he loves everyone else, because everyone has sinned. That *obviously* includes me. I've broken a good half of the 10 commandments. Some Christians have hateful biblical views on this topic, but that doesn't reflect the mind of God. He hates sin, but he doesn't hate us. A gay person who turns to Christ is in the same boat as my parents who are divorced, or myself since I've lied, cheated and stolen. But I believe we'll be in heaven.
  --> I'll admit, I have a hard time explaining why God would kill off a whole city. But remember that Abraham asked God to preserve the city if even one righteous person remained, and none did. God's justice makes us uncomfortable because we are sinners, but he is merciful which is why he send his son to die on the cross for our sins.
  --> He's certainly not misogynistic. I have no clue where you get that idea.

You are correct that God never changes: "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever” and with God “there is no variation, or shifting shadow”

One final thought: The world is a pretty horrible place, and humans, not God are responsible for that. Who are we to judge God when we've screwed up so bad? We have people starving to death in a world of plenty! In India, more baby girls are murdered than are born in the US every year. Half the world is a warzone full of people defrauding and killing each other. Our marriages fail, our institutions are corrupt and greedy, and millions of people are in prison, some even being tortured. But yeah, let's ignore all that and judge God according to the standard that causes so much suffering on earth.

What makes you qualified to tell us what "our father in heaven" wants?

I have read the bible, and the god of Abraham was not a loving, just or merciful god... he was a jealous, vindictive, misogynistic, proslavery, homophobic and genocidal god... he was a god of fear, not a god of love... "The fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom", etc

I cannot believe that an omniscient god would change his entire demeanor over the course of only one thousand years... a god who knew all of time and space, would not change his mind... ever... he would have been perfect from the beginning... which, the god of the bible clearly is not

^One thing that hasn't been proposed is that if we didn't have free will, we wouldn't be human but rather some sort of clone of God's mind. God wants us to love him because He is our Father and loves us. He wants us to follow Him not because we are slaves but because we are grateful for Him freeing us from slavery to sin and therefore *WANT* to be more like Him.

Our Father in heaven literally wants us to look at Him like the loving, just, merciful, generous father that He is.

And some christians do most hated things the bible mostly preached but there are really good people in them. I liked christians because it gives kids a chance to learn something recreative and musical insturments, but outside source too kids can learn.

And i think most atheist once learned the words of god and they just came to some sense either intrensic or extrensic.

So that you can have the enjoyment of deciding which non-sinful things to do.


Nobody is ever made to do wrong. However, it is an easy thing for us because of the ways that we are trained by parents... accidentally and incidentally if not intentionally.


This might be true part of the time, but there is also the feeling of shame, and the feeling of direct, imeadiate punishment in this life.



The only way we know what is right is through the information God placed into our hearts that has been handed down parents to children genetically. This means that the only reason we know what is right is because that "invisible, long haired, bearded guy" showed us how to be righteous.

Not really. If he doesn't want us to commit sin then why give us free will?
We are made to do wrong each and every single time. The only reason why people ask God for forgiveness is because of afterlife assurance. You see, that's what is wrong with the world right now. We expect something in return in every single thing that we do. Can't we just do the right thing just because it's right, not because an invisible, long haired, bearded guy wants us to do it?

That's it. As I have talked to many atheist they just talked the way they observed other Christians by word and not really as a true Christian following the Lord Jesus Christ. I have explained to them that there are fake Christians that doesn't live by faith and not following the teachings of the Lord.

It is fairly ironic that atheists go around preaching tolerance and then talk about how horrible Christianity is when their opinion is entirely based on a few loudmouths who claim to be Christians but don't really live God's word. Everyone is welcome at church and we are taught to preach God's love to all. Even our homosexual brothers and sisters whom we supposedly (but in reality do not) hate are more than welcome in our places of worship. We're happy to answer questions and have civil discussions with anyone who has doubts or problems with Christianity and we support freedom of thought and using logical reasoning to confirm and support faith. Finally, any real Christian will admit that we--every single one of us--are far from perfect and do wrong on a day to day basis. Sometimes this even includes hypocrisy, but we recognize that it's wrong and do our best to move on. Only by submitting ourselves in faith to Jesus Christ in his mercy can we be freed of our sins.

Concluding thought: All atheists are not Richard Dawkins, so don't treat all Christians as if we are Donald Trump.