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May 03, 2016, 10:02:58 AM
Christians recognise Jesus as the Son of God who was sent to save mankind from death and sin.

Jesus Christ taught that he was Son of God. His teachings can be summarised, briefly as the love of God and love of one's neighbour.

Jesus said that he had come to fulfil God's law rather than teach it.


But if you are going to read the gospel of John 8:24, he said that.

"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."

So we must believe that He is the "I am he" in short, God the father.

The "I am he" is referring to the Promised One, the Messiah, Who Moses promised in Deuteronomy 18:15:
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The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him.

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May 03, 2016, 09:54:41 AM
You should understand that ideas, ideologies and religions can't kill others, hate people or something like this.
Only people can do it.
It's very often that people misunderstand basic ideas behind religions and do very bad things in the name of God or their own religion.
Still, we shouldn't accuse religion for it but people.

I disagree with your statement that we shouldn't blame religion... religion is the enabler

Without religion, these people might not have killed anyone...

It's like someone inventing a nuke, then when people misuse it, and destroy the planet, you blame people?  You have to blame both... without the nuke, people would not have been able to destroy the planet... same goes for religion, it enables people to be wicked while believing they are the good guy... (flying an airplane into a building, et al)

It's an evil book, which enables people to act in evil ways

All the Book talks about doing is destroying evil people and anything that they make evil. Destroying evil is good. The Book is good.

It also has wonderful moral lessons... like... if an angry mob wants to rape your house-guests, you should let the mob rape your virgin daughters instead (ref. Lot and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah)

Quote from: Blink 182
Then later on... on the drive home
I called her mom... from a pay phone
I said I was the cops... and your husband's in jail
The state looks down on sodomy



My church did not even segregate these fairy tales based on age... I knew what both sodomy and rape were by the time I was 6
(from the stories, not the priest... super sad that I need to clarify this... just sayin)

Why do you consider that a moral lesson? If you look at the history of mankind right up to the present, people are doing crazy, bad things, right up to the present. You might have had a bad life up until recently, but that is no reason to suggest that handing your daughters over to a mob to rape them is Biblical marching orders.

You might have an excuse for such warped, evil, retarded thinking. But if you don't seek psychological help to remove such thinking, you are simply proving out the history of mankind as shown in the Bible, even though you are proving in different ways... that mankind is wicked and evil.

Part of the point being made by the "Lot" story is, that even though Lot and the people back then had a twisted sense of honor, God still loved them, still forgave them, and still worked to save them, as long as they were trusting in God. And that is your downfall. You present an evil view of the Bible... a view that is part lie, but unlike Lot, you don't trust in God. There was forgiveness for Lot, but without faith in God, there is no forgiveness for you.

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May 03, 2016, 01:18:28 AM
Christians recognise Jesus as the Son of God who was sent to save mankind from death and sin.

Jesus Christ taught that he was Son of God. His teachings can be summarised, briefly as the love of God and love of one's neighbour.

Jesus said that he had come to fulfil God's law rather than teach it.


But if you are going to read the gospel of John 8:24, he said that.

"I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."

So we must believe that He is the "I am he" in short, God the father.
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May 02, 2016, 11:46:38 PM
Fight over seat at church has deadly end - One man pulled a gun
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/seat-fight-pennsylvania-church-has-deadly-end/nrFqZ/

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PHILADELPHIA, Pa —

The sanctuary of the Keystone Fellowship Church used to be a safe place for church members to worship and fellowship with others. That changed abruptly Sunday when a member opened fire during service.

An argument began after Mark Storms, 46, told Robert Braxton III, 27, he was sitting in seats reserved for two other church members, according to a statement made by District Attorney Kevin Steele, The New York Daily News reported.

After a church member tapped Braxton on the shoulder to let him know he was in someone else’s seat, Braxton  yelled “don’t (expletive) touch me” an affidavit obtained by NBC Philadelphia said.

Witnesses told reporters that Braxton started making a scene over the seat, but soon calmed down after talking to a church usher and a pastor.

But the situation took a violent turn when Storms approached Braxton, carrying a gun, telling the 27-year-old to get out of the sanctuary.

“When he came over, he had a gun out, escalating the situation,” Steele said at a press conference on Thursday. “Braxton then took a swing at the defendant, punching him in the jaw.”

Braxton then tells Storms “(Expletive) you and your fake badge, get the (expletive) out of here,” according to a witness. “That’s not a real gun,” another witness said she remembered hearing in the their exchange.

Braxton then proceeds to ask, “What are you going to do, shoot me?” according reports.

Storms shot Braxton once in the chest and again in the right arm.

Braxton died of gunshot wounds later that afternoon after being rushed to Abington-Lansdale Hospital.

Storms was arrested and charged with voluntary manslaughter and reckless endangerment.

“Storms’ shooting of Mr. Braxton was not a reasonable self-defense situation,” Steele said. “It just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to bring a gun to church.”

“You don’t go to church to be killed. You just don’t do that,” Diana Walters, Braxton’s aunt, told WPVI. “He’s a young man. He had his whole life ahead of him.”

During his arraignment, Storms insisted that he used his weapon for self-defense. Bail is set at $250,000.
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May 02, 2016, 11:15:01 PM
You should understand that ideas, ideologies and religions can't kill others, hate people or something like this.
Only people can do it.
It's very often that people misunderstand basic ideas behind religions and do very bad things in the name of God or their own religion.
Still, we shouldn't accuse religion for it but people.

I disagree with your statement that we shouldn't blame religion... religion is the enabler

Without religion, these people might not have killed anyone...

It's like someone inventing a nuke, then when people misuse it, and destroy the planet, you blame people?  You have to blame both... without the nuke, people would not have been able to destroy the planet... same goes for religion, it enables people to be wicked while believing they are the good guy... (flying an airplane into a building, et al)

It's an evil book, which enables people to act in evil ways

All the Book talks about doing is destroying evil people and anything that they make evil. Destroying evil is good. The Book is good.

It also has wonderful moral lessons... like... if an angry mob wants to rape your house-guests, you should let the mob rape your virgin daughters instead (ref. Lot and the story of Sodom and Gomorrah)

Quote from: Blink 182
Then later on... on the drive home
I called her mom... from a pay phone
I said I was the cops... and your husband's in jail
The state looks down on sodomy



My church did not even segregate these fairy tales based on age... I knew what both sodomy and rape were by the time I was 6
(from the stories, not the priest... super sad that I need to clarify this... just sayin)
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May 02, 2016, 10:15:19 PM
Christians recognise Jesus as the Son of God who was sent to save mankind from death and sin.

Jesus Christ taught that he was Son of God. His teachings can be summarised, briefly as the love of God and love of one's neighbour.

Jesus said that he had come to fulfil God's law rather than teach it.
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May 02, 2016, 04:19:01 PM
You should understand that ideas, ideologies and religions can't kill others, hate people or something like this.
Only people can do it.
It's very often that people misunderstand basic ideas behind religions and do very bad things in the name of God or their own religion.
Still, we shouldn't accuse religion for it but people.

I disagree with your statement that we shouldn't blame religion... religion is the enabler

Without religion, these people might not have killed anyone...

It's like someone inventing a nuke, then when people misuse it, and destroy the planet, you blame people?  You have to blame both... without the nuke, people would not have been able to destroy the planet... same goes for religion, it enables people to be wicked while believing they are the good guy... (flying an airplane into a building, et al)

It's an evil book, which enables people to act in evil ways

All the Book talks about doing is destroying evil people and anything that they make evil. Destroying evil is good. The Book is good.

Cool
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May 01, 2016, 11:16:24 AM
You should understand that ideas, ideologies and religions can't kill others, hate people or something like this.
Only people can do it.
It's very often that people misunderstand basic ideas behind religions and do very bad things in the name of God or their own religion.
Still, we shouldn't accuse religion for it but people.

I disagree with your statement that we shouldn't blame religion... religion is the enabler

Without religion, these people might not have killed anyone...

It's like someone inventing a nuke, then when people misuse it, and destroy the planet, you blame people?  You have to blame both... without the nuke, people would not have been able to destroy the planet... same goes for religion, it enables people to be wicked while believing they are the good guy... (flying an airplane into a building, et al)

It's an evil book, which enables people to act in evil ways
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May 01, 2016, 10:43:37 AM
Please make peace and spread peace everywhere

That is a very good statement, you don't have to be religious to abide by it.

It's quite ironic because as mother teresa said "promoting peace is like establishing a war".

You dont have to beg for someone in order to bring peace, and you cant really solve peace in a jiffy and with a simple statement. It's on a persons own to find his peace.

Faith in Jesus brings the only true peace.    Cool

I agree with you because He is the prince of peace.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Only  people will accept Him. World peace is very possible.
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May 01, 2016, 09:12:33 AM
Chirstianity is not a poison this is the religion which taught us to forgive others and whenever we ask from god he will reply to one ...This is the only religion in the world which seem nice to me,christanity never promote voilence and in this time period world need non violence enviroment  Undecided

I dont think you get the jist of this topic. I'm not Christianity but sometimes christians are the ones who broke there own commandment. Yes its true that in the olden times your faith decides you future but in our time now, faith has broken us apart. Not just christianity but other religion. I grew up as a christians and i have my faith but we cant really blame people telling this things. We may never promote violence but there is always violence everywhere.

Godbless.

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May 01, 2016, 08:12:50 AM
Chirstianity is not a poison this is the religion which taught us to forgive others and whenever we ask from god he will reply to one ...This is the only religion in the world which seem nice to me,christanity never promote voilence and in this time period world need non violence enviroment  Undecided
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April 30, 2016, 03:27:55 PM
Please make peace and spread peace everywhere

That is a very good statement, you don't have to be religious to abide by it.

It's quite ironic because as mother teresa said "promoting peace is like establishing a war".

You dont have to beg for someone in order to bring peace, and you cant really solve peace in a jiffy and with a simple statement. It's on a persons own to find his peace.

Faith in Jesus brings the only true peace.    Cool

The only one I trust is me, I will never be swayed by others at all, I have complete faith in me to always do the right thing.

Remember this when you are on your deathbed.    Cool
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April 30, 2016, 03:25:41 PM
Please make peace and spread peace everywhere

That is a very good statement, you don't have to be religious to abide by it.

It's quite ironic because as mother teresa said "promoting peace is like establishing a war".

You dont have to beg for someone in order to bring peace, and you cant really solve peace in a jiffy and with a simple statement. It's on a persons own to find his peace.

Faith in Jesus brings the only true peace.    Cool

The only one I trust is me, I will never be swayed by others at all, I have complete faith in me to always do the right thing.
legendary
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April 30, 2016, 03:12:39 PM
Please make peace and spread peace everywhere

That is a very good statement, you don't have to be religious to abide by it.

It's quite ironic because as mother teresa said "promoting peace is like establishing a war".

You dont have to beg for someone in order to bring peace, and you cant really solve peace in a jiffy and with a simple statement. It's on a persons own to find his peace.

Faith in Jesus brings the only true peace.    Cool
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April 30, 2016, 03:09:05 PM
You should understand that ideas, ideologies and religions can't kill others, hate people or something like this.
Only people can do it.
It's very often that people misunderstand basic ideas behind religions and do very bad things in the name of God or their own religion.
Still, we shouldn't accuse religion for it but people.
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April 30, 2016, 02:40:55 PM
Please make peace and spread peace everywhere

That is a very good statement, you don't have to be religious to abide by it.

It's quite ironic because as mother teresa said "promoting peace is like establishing a war".

You dont have to beg for someone in order to bring peace, and you cant really solve peace in a jiffy and with a simple statement. It's on a persons own to find his peace.
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April 30, 2016, 01:40:20 PM
Please make peace and spread peace everywhere

That is a very good statement, you don't have to be religious to abide by it.
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April 30, 2016, 08:27:07 AM
Please make peace and spread peace everywhere
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April 29, 2016, 02:33:17 PM
Maybe you should actually read the Bible before you bash it. I edited your post to fix some inaccuracies:

religion will teach you how to be a better person, we can't compare all religion where are good it's back to your self. where you faith believe in Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Catholicism, atheists, Unreligious. so i never think Christianity is Poison or other religion is Poison, in my view all religion is same.

Religion does not teach you to be a better person...

Religion teaches you to own slaves (Slavery in the bible is nothing like American or modern slavery. That said Christians strongly believe slavery is wrong.), rape women (Absolutely not! Exodus 20:13), murder homosexuals (Absolutely not! Exodus 20:13), murder witches (Absolutely not! Exodus 20:13), murder your own children (Absolutely not! You have misinterpreted the story by a long shot), etc...

Basically, religion teaches you to be a hateful (John 4:20, Proverbs 4:12) narcissistic bigot (Proverbs 29:23, James 4:6), who thinks God loves you more than other people (yes, he does love us more than anyone on earth: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.)...

If you managed to learn something good from religion, you did [not do] that on your own... please do not give religion credit for your own deeds "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus... Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded."

Your "corrections" are simply false... Have you read the bible?  Don't claim you know more about it than I do... you don't

Slavery in the bible was not some nice thing, like you pretend it was... there are plenty of quotes I could pull from the bible, such as:
Quote from: Exodus 21:20-21
If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property

Yeah, sounds nice... slaves are property, and you are allowed to beat them so long as it does not kill them within 48 hours

The bible also says slaves are property for life, and they can be passed down to your children (Leviticus 25:44)



Rape is justified on many occasions... Have you read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? Lot hands his virgin daughters to an angry mob to be raped... and this is a good thing according to god...

The bible says, "If a man rapes a virgin woman, he must marry her, and pay her father the bride price of 50 shekels" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)... I suppose that's a good way to find a wife if you happen to be a super ugly man... not very moral though

Yes the bible commands you to murder homosexuals... don't pretend you have never heard that one before... Leviticus 20:13... ring a bell?
Quote from: Leviticus 20:13
If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads

Witches:
Quote from: Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live

Genocide:
Quote from: Deuteronomy 2:33–34
The Lord our God delivered him over to us, and we defeated him with his sons and all his people.
So we captured all his cities at that time and utterly destroyed the men, women and children of every city. We left no survivor

Quote from: Deuteronomy 3:3-6
So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people: and we smote him until none was left to him remaining.
And we took all his cities at that time, there was not a city which we took not from them, threescore cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan.
All these cities were fenced with high walls, gates, and bars; beside unwalled towns a great many.
And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city

For those new to math, threescore = 60... 60 cities... if that isn't genocide, I don't know what is...


More genocide in the bible:
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And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy 7:2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them. Deuteronomy 7:16

Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:15

But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. Deuteronomy 20:16-17

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Joshua 6:21

So smote all the country ... he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3


Let us not forget about the flood... god personally kills everyone except for 9 people...  That isn't genocide?

Major points about all this.

1. God made it all. It was His right from the Beginning. He not only has the ability to do with His property as He wants, but He has the right to dictate how things are to be done.

2. It was God's property from the Beginning. Then man wrecked it by eating the fruit. Then God in mercy didn't destroy mankind for messing it all up. So, it all now belongs to God twice... the first when He made it all, and the second when He withheld His destruction.

3. You complain about God and His judgments. Well, God's mercy to you is the time He has left for you to change and humbly submit to Him rather than speaking against Him.

4. The final rule God will make for each one of us will be in the judgment at the last day. Badmouth God and His mercy all you want. You are still His property. He still rules you. Be thankful He has given you time to blabber your head off. If you don't turn to be on His side, you will have all eternity to suffer for it. God rules.

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April 29, 2016, 01:30:52 PM
Maybe you should actually read the Bible before you bash it. I edited your post to fix some inaccuracies:

religion will teach you how to be a better person, we can't compare all religion where are good it's back to your self. where you faith believe in Buddhism, Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Catholicism, atheists, Unreligious. so i never think Christianity is Poison or other religion is Poison, in my view all religion is same.

Religion does not teach you to be a better person...

Religion teaches you to own slaves (Slavery in the bible is nothing like American or modern slavery. That said Christians strongly believe slavery is wrong.), rape women (Absolutely not! Exodus 20:13), murder homosexuals (Absolutely not! Exodus 20:13), murder witches (Absolutely not! Exodus 20:13), murder your own children (Absolutely not! You have misinterpreted the story by a long shot), etc...

Basically, religion teaches you to be a hateful (John 4:20, Proverbs 4:12) narcissistic bigot (Proverbs 29:23, James 4:6), who thinks God loves you more than other people (yes, he does love us more than anyone on earth: For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.)...

If you managed to learn something good from religion, you did [not do] that on your own... please do not give religion credit for your own deeds "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus... Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded."

Your "corrections" are simply false... Have you read the bible?  Don't claim you know more about it than I do... you don't

Slavery in the bible was not some nice thing, like you pretend it was... there are plenty of quotes I could pull from the bible, such as:
Quote from: Exodus 21:20-21
If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property

Yeah, sounds nice... slaves are property, and you are allowed to beat them so long as it does not kill them within 48 hours

The bible also says slaves are property for life, and they can be passed down to your children (Leviticus 25:44)



Rape is justified on many occasions... Have you read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? Lot hands his virgin daughters to an angry mob to be raped... and this is a good thing according to god...

The bible says, "If a man rapes a virgin woman, he must marry her, and pay her father the bride price of 50 shekels" (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)... I suppose that's a good way to find a wife if you happen to be a super ugly man... not very moral though

Yes the bible commands you to murder homosexuals... don't pretend you have never heard that one before... Leviticus 20:13... ring a bell?
Quote from: Leviticus 20:13
If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads

Witches:
Quote from: Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live

Genocide:
Quote from: Deuteronomy 2:33–34
The Lord our God delivered him over to us, and we defeated him with his sons and all his people.
So we captured all his cities at that time and utterly destroyed the men, women and children of every city. We left no survivor

Quote from: Deuteronomy 3:3-6
So the LORD our God delivered into our hands Og also, the king of Bashan, and all his people: and we smote him until none was left to him remaining.
And we took all his cities at that time, there was not a city which we took not from them, threescore cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan.
All these cities were fenced with high walls, gates, and bars; beside unwalled towns a great many.
And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city

For those new to math, threescore = 60... 60 cities... if that isn't genocide, I don't know what is...


More genocide in the bible:
Quote
And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy 7:2

And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them. Deuteronomy 7:16

Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:15

But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. Deuteronomy 20:16-17

And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword. Joshua 6:21

So smote all the country ... he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3


Let us not forget about the flood... god personally kills everyone except for 9 people...  That isn't genocide?
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