Topic: Christians are a hate group. (Read 7932 times)

Mohamed may have spoken and written something about Jesus Christ, but since his writings do not speak about Jesus salvation, but rather make Jesus out to simply be a prophet like so many others, Mohamed's writing about Jesus is not the important thing about Jesus, the Christ.

You really need to read the New Testament again.

Before I reply on your answer I wan to ask you something... How can you judge on something that you don't know what is it?

How about this: Did you know that Mohamed was speaking about Christ also?

Now on your reply:

Further, the Great Flood of Noah's day was God's response to millions of people who used meditation and spirituality incorrectly. Why did they use it incorrectly? Because they were not perfect, being descendants of Eve... even though they were far closer to perfection than any of us today.

You should definitely re-read the books of Moses!

We are having a debate? I didn't realize. Sorry.

I'm not into Yoga. The time Western Yoga takes is simply not what I have. The religious aspects of Eastern Yoga are something that I don't need and am not interested in.

I meditate a lot on the Bible. Of course, meditation with reference to Bible meditation, is not that same as Yoga meditation.

Regarding the video, this is what you mean by consciousness, then. In the Bible, God does not want people to focus on this kind of consciousness, except in the ways that He explains in the Bible, prayer to God, and meditation on the words of the Bible. Why does God want this? Here's why.

Eve in the Garden is a good example. Eve had perfection. In that perfection, she was able to use spirituality and consciousness that we can only dream about. Why? Because she was a perfect being, having the natural control of these things in herself.

What happened to Eve? She was tempted by the devil in the form of a serpent. She couldn't resist the temptation, and she fell out of perfection. Our imperfection is the result.

Further, the Great Flood of Noah's day was God's response to millions of people who used meditation and spirituality incorrectly. Why did they use it incorrectly? Because they were not perfect, being descendants of Eve... even though they were far closer to perfection than any of us today.

The point? We are not able to use spirituality and consciousness any better than Eve or the millions who died in the Great Flood because of their wickedness. We would simply fall into greater imperfection and wickedness by using it, even as it is found in Yoga meditation.

There is one way, and one way only, to use spirituality and consciousness correctly. It is through the words of the Bible, according to the clear and simple directions given in the Bible. This is the only way that it is beneficial for us.

The Bible does not express the things of Yoga light metaphorically. Bible light has to do with Jesus salvation. If Yoga light has to do with Jesus salvation, it is only in a very unclear way. Yoga tends to an imperfection that was similar to that of the peoples before the time of the Great Flood.

However, you are making a good point. With the spread of Yoga light and such, to the people of God in the West, we can see that the return of Jesus will be soon. Matthew 24:36-39, Jesus speaking:

Hey, you are leaving so soon?

We are having debate here about something that we both have read it and my point is... You should give chance to the Yoga and Meditation and read some experience from people who are practicing this thing.

Here, watch this guy and tell what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojk8mvfkSos

Hey, thanks, man.   

28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

Dude, Christ tell us all the time that He have a Father who is the King of the Heaven and that He sent Him here on Earth so He could sacrifice for our sins!

The meaning of the world Christ and all His parabolas and metaphors were about the Light. Because, He is the Light who is with in us. Let me remind you of something:

33Therefore Jesus said, "For a little while longer I am with you, then I go to Him who sent Me. 34"You will seek Me, and will not find Me; and where I am, you cannot come." 35

So if Christ is the Light then we have to follow Him if we want to find our peace and salvation! And here how we would all look like when we completely connect with HIM:

" Listen, I tell you a mystery: we will not all Sleep, but we will all be Changed — in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. I Corinthians 15:51 "

The mistakes of Christianity's past lies in the fact that Christians didn't read the Bible and obey it. Rather, they obeyed some joker who said that the Bible says such and such.

Islam is the reverse. The Islamic clerics go against their own religion by telling the people that Islam is peaceful. Muslims obey their clerics, and there is peace rather than the violence that the Islamic writings call for.

I find religions partly responsible for man's crimes though. When the base holy scriptures of a religion advocate violence, and such violence is advocated by the heads of a religion, then religion does play a role in inciting violence. Christianity has admitted it's mistakes of the past, but largely taken a different path since the "dark times". Islam is another story though, with them, violent radicalism is on the rise now.

Religion doesn't hate religion. Only people hate, at times.

Religion is stalling man's further devolution. There isn't any evolution. God created everything to work perfectly. Then the devil came and tempted mankind to corrupt the perfection that God made. There has only been devolution since then. Religion is the thing that God uses to stall the devolution somewhat. The atheism religion is one of the religions that hinders God's forestalling of devolution.

The be honest, all religious groups have some kind of hate to one another. Religion is an issue that needs to be solved. Religion itslef is not bad, but it is a delaying condition for man's evolution.

The people asked Jesus what the works of God are. Read what Jesus replied in John 6:28,29:
Who is the one God has sent? Jesus was metaphorically speaking about Himself.

Please pardon me if I don't completely understand what you mean at times. It appears that English is possibly a second language for you. If that is the case, you are doing great with it.

Thanks for you understanding.

Either the Bible says what it says, or it doesn't. And if it doesn't say what it says, then it says something else. If it says something else, how can we know what it says. After all, we only have the Bible expressing what it says.

Let me remind you what Christ was tell us... The level I talk with my Apostles is very different from the others. I am trying to teach them in parabolas and metaphors and only those will be able to understand my words. The others should listening and following then and when the time will comes you will know the truth!

And why do I "need" to do it? Jesus saves His faithful people even when they die in their sleep or die when they are unconscious.

Tell me, do you know what is the difference between good, evil and relative?

The Holy Spirit never sleeps. He does not need awakening.

If you are using the word "awaken" to mean that we need to awaken to Jesus salvation, and that we can become aware of the Holy spirit and His work He is trying to do in us, then you are correct.

Please pardon me if I don't completely understand what you mean at times. It appears that English is possibly a second language for you. If that is the case, you are doing great with it.


Outside of good law, words often have many meanings. The usage determines which meaning is to be applied, or if the word is being used incorrectly. Okay.


You'll need to give me some example about the way in which reading and accepting the Bible is limited thinking.

Either the Bible says what it says, or it doesn't. And if it doesn't say what it says, then it says something else. If it says something else, how can we know what it says. After all, we only have the Bible expressing what it says.

You totally don't make any sense.



What does "pushing a level of consciousness" mean? You have said this at least twice, now. I have never heard this terminology before. Perhaps it means having faith in Jesus salvation?

And why do I "need" to do it? Jesus saves His faithful people even when they die in their sleep or die when they are unconscious.

The Holy spirit doesn't need awakening. He is constantly trying to work knowledge of Jesus salvation in everyone. Every little piece of Bible knowledge a person gets into himself/herself is part of what the Holy spirit uses to do this work. If the person happens to be weak enough, the Holy Spirit can work His work in them.

The Holly Spirit need awakening with your fate in Him. If you never start to believe in Him, you will never awake the spirit. That's why John says: We will not all Sleep...

I get it. You are talking about taking things out of context, right? You still need to know definitions of words to understand what they mean in context.

Meaning of the word and the meaning in the sentence sometimes can change the meaning of the sentence for 360!

We don't know what we will be changed into in that twinkling of an eye. We don't know if there will be food or no food. We don't know how the life will be sustained in any detail. All we know is that God will sustain our lives, initially through Jesus, but possibly in Heaven, without the constant need for Jesus in the ways we need His life here. We simply don't know, as the passage says.

Dude please, don't try to think like that. It is a limited thinking (no offense). I am trying to tell that you need to push your level of consciousness by re-reading the New Testament. I am telling you this from my experience... This is my second time how I read the Acts of Apostles and I constantly discovering something new and I am sure that you can do that same thing!

There have to be other ways that he can commit suicide.   

You have a lot of hatred........

Nuke hatred.

The Holy spirit doesn't need awakening. He is constantly trying to work knowledge of Jesus salvation in everyone. Every little piece of Bible knowledge a person gets into himself/herself is part of what the Holy spirit uses to do this work. If the person happens to be weak enough, the Holy Spirit can work His work in them.


I get it. You are talking about taking things out of context, right? You still need to know definitions of words to understand what they mean in context.



We don't know what we will be changed into in that twinkling of an eye. We don't know if there will be food or no food. We don't know how the life will be sustained in any detail. All we know is that God will sustain our lives, initially through Jesus, but possibly in Heaven, without the constant need for Jesus in the ways we need His life here. We simply don't know, as the passage says.

However, that is not the further I meant. There is enough knowledge in the Bible for the Holy Spirit to instruct us for a thousand years. If I go further into some other writings, I may be drawn away from some of the good Bible knowledge, especially if those other writings are spiritual writings. The Bible is the best, and is all sufficient for spiritual training.

The Holy Spirit is a "person" as we are sentient beings. He opens our hearts and minds to understanding the philosophy that is hidden in the words of the Bible, the philosophy that is not understood by simple mental processes.

True! The Holy Spirit is a person who lives in our body, but the moment when you awake that person is the moment when you start to understanding the words that you have been read it from the Bible. The next faze is when you start to practicing. You will never feel The Light if you weren't able to experience that...

Not sure what you mean here. When you say "word," are you talking about some specific word?

That is the point mate! The meaning of the word and the meaning of the word in a sentence is very different! What I am trying to tell you is that you can not decode the words if don't see the meaning of the sentence.

Why do I need to push further. Why do I need to see some so-called deep meaning? The deepest meaning in the whole Bible (and the whole world) is Jesus salvation, and the whole story surrounding it. That story is evident, clearly, only in the Bible. The Holy Spirit awakens my heart to its meaning when I read and believe the Bible.

I agree with you, but let me remind you why should go further:

" Listen, I tell you a mystery: we will not all Sleep, but we will all be Changed — in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. I Corinthians 15:51 "

Tell me, are you able to live without food? Hm?

Burn every Christian church to the ground after trapping the sheeple inside by barring the door.

Hail satan.