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Topic: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux) - page 1214. (Read 6590565 times)

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@Claymore, can you make an example line for sia-nanopool for dpools.txt? I cant figure it out...

Thanks!

Code:
POOL: http://sia-eu1.nanopool.org:9980/miner/header?address=3be0304dee313515cf401b8593a0c1df905ed13f0adaee89a8d7337d2ba8209e5ca9f297bbc2&worker=YourWorkerName
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@Claymore, can you make an example line for sia-nanopool for dpools.txt? I cant figure it out...

Thanks!
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Of all the algos you listed, only etherum is profitable.. Doesn't matter if the 1070 is faster in the algos that give 0 profit.

To back up SP_ argument, which is sound advice for BTC accumulators.

Ethereum Market Capitalisation is: $ 942,574,815 and about $11.48 million of new ether are mineable each month for the next 7 months. At the currently profitability on Ether, ROI do not justify more GPU investments.

All of the Lyra2re2 ALTs Market Capitalisation is around $2.8 million dollars and $85,000 of new VTC and Mona are mineable each month for next 18 months and 12 months.

Therefore, people who buy 100's of GPUs for mining farms will know, Lyra2re2 cannot be mined for BTC or Fiat at scale that would not cause their prices to crash and consequently make GPU mining unprofitable after a 2-4 weeks.

Therefore, when buying 100's of GPUs, the profitability of Lyra2re2 algorithm is irrelevant, because those ALTs are purely mineable by the community building that Alt into bigger entity Grin

Now I understand, thx for explaining that.
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Claymore,

When the failover kicks in does it revert back to the primary right after?  The reason I ask is that I have a private dwarfpool address and when the miners spin up the ethman app sees the correct address but if I come back an hour later or so they almost all are changed to failovers.  Not sure if I am loosing my mind or not hehe.

EDIT:
I just looked again and they all went back to my private address after awhile.  I guess there is some sort of revert timer?
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aside either way the hacker did something that was not in the spirit of the dao code he/she expolited a vunrebilty its like if you leave your window open even though you were warrned that you might get robbed yeah its your fault to a point but you cant tell me if you get robbed and the thief gets caught he would be immune from pro eaution and allowed to keep what he stole.
Would agree with you but do you really write on your window: "You can do anything you can in the room if you are in?". THAT is the case with TheDAO, its own contract allowed him to get some ETH technically and their own agreement explicitly allowed to do anything legally what the contract code permits. This is the key difference unlike, say, banks where your interest is declared by contract and any error must be fixed by support. Please notice also that he was not a person aside, he was legitimate TheDAO investor who used contact as it was written. There is no documents that declare his profit on DAO split, that code was not even commented well enough. It is their fault, and any fault should have consequences. In addition, you tell me about the spirit of TheDAO, but what about the spirit of Ethereum? Again, I don't support that he has done, but formally nothing was broken or hacked. And that was the only thing I disagreed. He just read the code better then authors or security auditors. You don't ask Intel to fix a CPU to recover an error in an accounting program. Why you expect the Ethereum Virtual Machine (the CPU) to be fixed when it worked as expected, and the flaw was in upper level layer, TheDAO (accounting program)... Well, no more offtopic from me. But I am ok to discuss in PM if anyone has arguments, not emotions.
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Of all the algos you listed, only etherum is profitable.. Doesn't matter if the 1070 is faster in the algos that give 0 profit.

To back up SP_ argument, which is sound advice for BTC accumulators.

Ethereum Market Capitalisation is: $ 942,574,815 and about $11.48 million of new ether are mineable each month for the next 7 months. At the currently profitability on Ether, ROI do not justify more GPU investments.

All of the Lyra2re2 ALTs Market Capitalisation is around $2.8 million dollars and $85,000 of new VTC and Mona are mineable each month for next 18 months and 12 months.

Therefore, people who buy 100's of GPUs for mining farms will know, Lyra2re2 cannot be mined for BTC or Fiat at scale that would not cause their prices to crash and consequently make GPU mining unprofitable after a 2-4 weeks.

Therefore, when buying 100's of GPUs, the profitability of Lyra2re2 algorithm is irrelevant, because those ALTs are purely mineable by the community building that Alt into bigger entity Grin





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Of all the algos you listed, only etherum is profitable... Doesn't matter if the 1070 is faster in the algos that give 0 profit.

On Nicehash Lyra2v2 is payed more less same as Ethereum per Megahash*Day. So GTX 1070 with it's 35 Mhash Lyra2v2 power can earn more than AMD 480 with 25MHash Eth power. Keccak, Qbit and Quark are close, too.

My question is that although 480 is better in mining Ethereum, after Serenity (half year, year?), GTX 1070 will be far superior card for next years?

And why GTX 1070/1080 does so poorly in mining Ethereum, comparing to other coins?
sp_
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Of all the algos you listed, only etherum is profitable.. Doesn't matter if the 1070 is faster in the algos that give 0 profit.
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The 1070 is way too expensive compared to the 480. But i will wait for the better cooled 480s before buying any.

According to:
http://cryptomining-blog.com/8054-performance-of-the-amd-radeon-rx-480-for-other-algorithms/#comment-4340

GTX 1070 has more than x2 more firepower than AMD 480, while it cost less than 2x more.
Keccak 660 vs 250
Lyra2v2 35 vs 8
Nist 40 vs 18
Qbit 21 vs 10
That's all with same TDP.

Ethereum is the only algorithm that Radeon 480 mines as fast as GTX 1070.

So is it really over for mining with AMD, or maybe i'm missing something like bad AMD drivers etc. ??
I'm not good with hardware specifications, just trying to read numbers.
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Could future Claymore's release improve Ethereum mining on nvidia cards or it is the matter of hardware in-capabilities?
I'm going to buy some cards and it seems to me that except for mining Ethereum currently GTX 1070 is better buy than AMD 480.
I can't find any info about Serenity timeline, too. Half year? Year?

The 1070 is way too expensive compared to the 480. But i will wait for the better cooled 480s before buying any.

He seemed to be bound by contract not to make nvidia miner, or something.
Which expired soon.. so he said there will be a nvidia miner too. Soon
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Wanting lower temps is fine.  But unlike Nvidia reference cards, AMD reference cards tend to be built like a tank. Very overbuilt. Top quality power delivery system etc.

When going for partner cards, i would investigate properly their PCB.


I only want amd reference blower cards for mining 24/7
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Could future Claymore's release improve Ethereum mining on nvidia cards or it is the matter of hardware in-capabilities?
I'm going to buy some cards and it seems to me that except for mining Ethereum currently GTX 1070 is better buy than AMD 480.
I can't find any info about Serenity timeline, too. Half year? Year?

The 1070 is way too expensive compared to the 480. But i will wait for the better cooled 480s before buying any.
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Could future Claymore's release improve Ethereum mining on nvidia cards or it is the matter of hardware in-capabilities?
I'm going to buy some cards and it seems to me that except for mining Ethereum currently GTX 1070 is better buy than AMD 480.
I can't find any info about Serenity timeline, too. Half year? Year?
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i was getting more than 10% hw with 4.5
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HE QUESTION I ANSWERED SPECIFIED A SIMPLE ANSWER--

You cut that part out.  The answer I gave was simple, and not a long-winded poorly referenced editorial piece.  I answered a question about whether a new Claymore version would be required after the fork.  New wallets will be required, not a new miner.   If I am wrong about that, Claymore can correct me.

Your answer regarding new miner was correct. But your statement that it was a hack, and ETH was stolen was NOT. In fact it was non-ethical use of the contract code as it was written by TheDAO, used in accordance with contract agreement that explicitly stated that the code is law (unlike bank service contracts etc that do not contain such statement and cannot be used as precedents).

So I quoted only related part of your message I disagreed (overquoting is a bad habit) and explained what was wrong with that part of the message, and why any Ethereum fork is a very bad thing since it makes a precedent that irreversible blockchain may be reversed if "necessary", even if it does not contain bugs in Ethereum platform. There were no any references in the reply because anyone interested can find them, and all I wrote were my personal thoughts and words. If your answer contained a quote from some other source, then a reference to that source should be nice to have as well. In that case there will be no questions to you, but to the author of that incorrect statement.

And that all was written by me because a lot, if not most, of pool miners use Claymore's one. If they believe that something really depends on their choice (to fork or not to fork), they at least should know what has really happened and make a right choice voting. Your statement gives no such knowledge, but tells without references that TheDAO was hacked (wrong - no code changes), ETH was stolen (wrong - use of contract code by one of many TheDAO token holders - means investors) by hackers (wrong - was no hack). And, BTW, TheDAO is NOT a part of Ethereum project, it is just one of thousand of projects based on Ethereum platform, just biggest one where curators happened to be Ethereum founders. But it seems that there is no any real choice if you are a pool miner (I explained why). So I personally switched to Ethereum fork due to all that mess.


your soapbox aside either way the hacker did something that was not in the spirit of the dao code he/she expolited a vunrebilty its like if you leave your window open even though you were warrned that you might get robbed yeah its your fault to a point but you cant tell me if you get robbed and the thief gets caught he would be immune from pro eaution and allowed to keep what he stole.

that in effect is what the anti forkers are proposing : to let the person who came though an open window and stole DAO tokens ( that did not belong to him) to be allowed to keep them.  If they allowed this it would be the end of etherum and they know it.

personally i say fux the hacker he probably made millions shorting the market anyways he cant be alowed to profit further.
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HE QUESTION I ANSWERED SPECIFIED A SIMPLE ANSWER--

You cut that part out.  The answer I gave was simple, and not a long-winded poorly referenced editorial piece.  I answered a question about whether a new Claymore version would be required after the fork.  New wallets will be required, not a new miner.   If I am wrong about that, Claymore can correct me.

Your answer regarding new miner was correct. But your statement that it was a hack, and ETH was stolen was NOT. In fact it was non-ethical use of the contract code as it was written by TheDAO, used in accordance with contract agreement that explicitly stated that the code is law (unlike bank service contracts etc that do not contain such statement and cannot be used as precedents).

So I quoted only related part of your message I disagreed (overquoting is a bad habit) and explained what was wrong with that part of the message, and why any Ethereum fork is a very bad thing since it makes a precedent that irreversible blockchain may be reversed if "necessary", even if it does not contain bugs in Ethereum platform. There were no any references in the reply because anyone interested can find them, and all I wrote were my personal thoughts and words. If your answer contained a quote from some other source, then a reference to that source should be nice to have as well. In that case there will be no questions to you, but to the author of that incorrect statement.

And that all was written by me because a lot, if not most, of pool miners use Claymore's one. If they believe that something really depends on their choice (to fork or not to fork), they at least should know what has really happened and make a right choice voting. Your statement gives no such knowledge, but tells without references that TheDAO was hacked (wrong - no code changes), ETH was stolen (wrong - use of contract code by one of many TheDAO token holders - means investors) by hackers (wrong - was no hack). And, BTW, TheDAO is NOT a part of Ethereum project, it is just one of thousand of projects based on Ethereum platform, just biggest one where curators happened to be Ethereum founders. But it seems that there is no any real choice if you are a pool miner (I explained why). So I personally switched to Ethereum fork due to all that mess.
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hi, can somebody drop an actual bat. file for SIACOIN at Suprnova , siamining or any SIA pool. I have hard time macking one from Claymore's READ me text, i'm a bit NEW to mining. Thank you!


EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us2.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0xD69af2A796A737A103F12d2f0BCC563a13900E6F.YourWorkerName -epsw x -dpool "http://siamining.com:9980/miner/header?address=YourSiaAddress&worker=YourWorkerName" -dcoin sia

Replace underlined texts with your wallet addresses and worker name.
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"GRS 57.64 MH" - Thats not for a single 280x card, right? Afaik 280x mining solo GRS does about 24Mh/s

You need to read all the notes. That is CPU Mining GRS + GPU mining EXP/SIA.

EDIT:
Here's a youtube video:
https://youtu.be/lZP0ZTZubTI

About 1:40 of mining so you can see them both miners running. Claymore for dual mining GPU and cpuminer-opt for CPU mining.

I have read them all, now its more clear that you mine GRS on CPU only.

Btw your GRS speed is 1Mh/s, not 57.64.
Not sure what the other reading is... Maybe total hashes calculated so far since last share?

Cool. I wasn't sure either. It's harder to read that miner's output than Claymore's. Unfortunately I haven't had any luck yet with Claymore's CPU miner. Yes he has one.
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"GRS 57.64 MH" - Thats not for a single 280x card, right? Afaik 280x mining solo GRS does about 24Mh/s

You need to read all the notes. That is CPU Mining GRS + GPU mining EXP/SIA.

EDIT:
Here's a youtube video:
https://youtu.be/lZP0ZTZubTI

About 1:40 of mining so you can see them both miners running. Claymore for dual mining GPU and cpuminer-opt for CPU mining.

I have read them all, now its more clear that you mine GRS on CPU only.

Btw your GRS speed is 1Mh/s, not 57.64.
Not sure what the other reading is... Maybe total hashes calculated so far since last share?
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