Sounds to me more like professional jealously.
Absolutely not. Some users discovered it and simply told me about it: https://forum.z.cash/t/silentarmy-v3-now-a-full-miner-multi-gpu-stratum/3580/629
Right on. Live and let live. I stand corrected. 
Topic: Claymore's ZCash/BTG AMD GPU Miner v12.6 (Windows/Linux) - page 715. (Read 3839391 times)
Absolutely not. Some users discovered it and simply told me about it: https://forum.z.cash/t/silentarmy-v3-now-a-full-miner-multi-gpu-stratum/3580/629
Right on. Live and let live. I stand corrected. Dumping zec as soon as you mined it doesn't make any sense to me either.
It has made sense most of the time 'cause the price keeps dropping, though there have been a couple of small spikes where it made sense to hold on to it for a short while.
I'm STILL boggled that it ever was even close to 1 Bitcoin for a price, much less the "very very EARLY adopters" pricing in the 3 digits for a very short bit.
Getting GPU returned incorrect data! approximately 1 message in each 2 min.
Too overclocked ?
Too overclocked ?
The author of the code can't know if it was infringed without seeing the source.
I am the author. And yes it was infringed. I can know with 100% confidence, without seeing claymore's full source.
How can I know? Because part of his source leaked in his binary. We can see the content of the assert statements, the name of the variables in these asserts, he name of the functions, the order, type, and number of arguments. Everything matches perfectly my blake.c implementation. And I wrote it myself, from scratch, with no inspiration from anyone else.
Now, I don't personally believe Claymore copied all of silentarmy. I think he just took blake.c which is only ~100 lines of code. That's why his miner is way different than mine.
The authors solver is slower, uses more VRAM, uses a lot more CPU, and PCIe bandwidth, runs on fewer cards, and crashes a lot. Why would you want to copy that?
Actually Silentarmy is faster (by a hair) than Claymore's
But I do use more CPU and more PCIe bandwidth :-(That said, I encourage everybody to CHILL OUT here. I didn't want this issue to be public in the first place (I messaged Claymore privately), but some started discussing here... Give Claymore time to respond. All he has to do is include a copyright notice in his miner, and he will be compliant with the MIT license. That's all.
For speed, vram usage and such, I was going with what was available when it was released. The current version is similar speed, but each miner has different speeds on various cards. (I don't know about vram and other factors because I don't want to fool with linux....). For code, I was thinking more of the birthday problem part, which is probably the main performance factor. I was just noting different characteristics to note that the main meat seems a lot different. Wanting acknowledgement for your work is fine, I was just speculating the issue probably isn't as big as people make it.
Sounds to me more like professional jealously.
Absolutely not. Some users discovered it and simply told me about it: https://forum.z.cash/t/silentarmy-v3-now-a-full-miner-multi-gpu-stratum/3580/629
My point was not the holding. But when the value was up there.. when it was 800+ buyers and only 300+ coins the sellers still fucking dropped the value. They do not know how to do supply and demand and keep the price up. Should of set something like minimum sell to 1.8 BTC or something. It would of remained up there in value than if the sellers would work at setting a standard price. But no even when there was less coins to buy than buyers the price was plummeting down because seller wanted to sell quickly than priced it lower than everyone else.. and the next one repeated process and the price just kept getting cheaper and cheaper.
In the beginning it was not so bad.. price would plummet but the coins ran out the dump sellers had. than the price would skyrocket back up! But than it has gotten to be more coins than buyers and sellers had kept plummeting the price. I won't be surprised if the coin becomes worthless because sellers are impatient to sell and will not wait and set there price lower than everyone else keeping the downward spiral.
ZCash should of kept a 1:1 with BTC. Buyers buy ZCash to do there anonymous transactions than cash out in BTC. Keeping amount near the same but instead just have a bunch of miners that want to sell so fast they they set there value one point lower.. price now becomes new price.. next seller does same.. price becomes new price.. repeat, repeat, repeat. Miners would have to work together and set the lowest value and not go any lower to get a standard limit set. But it will not happen as everyone wants to quick dump.. back in the spike period I would set a sell target price that was high and during the spike I would end up selling it.
In the beginning it was not so bad.. price would plummet but the coins ran out the dump sellers had. than the price would skyrocket back up! But than it has gotten to be more coins than buyers and sellers had kept plummeting the price. I won't be surprised if the coin becomes worthless because sellers are impatient to sell and will not wait and set there price lower than everyone else keeping the downward spiral.
ZCash should of kept a 1:1 with BTC. Buyers buy ZCash to do there anonymous transactions than cash out in BTC. Keeping amount near the same but instead just have a bunch of miners that want to sell so fast they they set there value one point lower.. price now becomes new price.. next seller does same.. price becomes new price.. repeat, repeat, repeat. Miners would have to work together and set the lowest value and not go any lower to get a standard limit set. But it will not happen as everyone wants to quick dump.. back in the spike period I would set a sell target price that was high and during the spike I would end up selling it.
The reason for the insane prices at start is hype, and ludicrously low supply. If there is only like 1 coin in the world, it will be worth a lot. Now there are thousands, or course price will be lower. People posting that everyone should hold are either retarded and don't understand supply and demand, and some other concepts, or are just wanting others to hold so they can sell.
Sure if EVERY SINGLE MINER, pool operator, and Chinese farm on the planet held, price might stay high longer, but if this was the case, it would be ludicrously profitable for any of thousands of miners to sell. Any investor could mine a few fractions of a coin on his laptop, and make a killing with no risk. It isn't smart to hoard all your coins when they lose a ton of value per day. Everyone is free to make their own choices. If someone mines 0.01 Zec, them holding will be drops in a bucket, so it likely won't affect price either way.
Reguarding the first few hours. It is completely and absurdly insane to believe the value would hold at $40,000 per coin, and so it is extremely risky to try to hold.
The reason for the price going down is almost entirely a factor of the increasing reward, and coins mined.
I think you totally misunderstood the point. Of course miners will sell their mined coin to pay for the cost of electricity. The point is to not dump it for whatever price is listed, usually the lowest price offered. The point is to sell your coin if you wish but please pay attention to the market price.
Now that it has somewhat stabilized (though still trending down due to increased supply rate), it may be good to check prices before selling. I was talking more about the first few days.
@Claymore
I updated to 1.1 and went to bed, Had a brief ISP outage for 10 mins, ALL 14 rigs proceeded to be offline for 5 hours....Untill I restarted miner..
I updated to 1.1 and went to bed, Had a brief ISP outage for 10 mins, ALL 14 rigs proceeded to be offline for 5 hours....Untill I restarted miner..
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04:46:07:065 13d8 GPU0 t=32C fan=41%
04:46:07:066 13d8 em hbt: 31824, fm hbt: 40763,
04:46:07:066 13d8 watchdog - thread 0, hb time 31
04:46:07:066 13d8 watchdog - thread 1, hb time 47
04:46:07:313 86c DevFee: ZEC: Stratum - connecting to 'equihash.eu.nicehash.com' <10.10.10.10> port 3357
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04:46:28:315 86c ZEC: Stratum - Cannot connect to equihash.eu.nicehash.com:3357
04:46:28:315 86c DevFee: ZEC: Stratum - Failed to connect, retry in 20 sec...
04:46:37:085 13d8 GPU0 t=32C fan=41%
04:46:37:085 13d8 em hbt: 20748, fm hbt: 29765,
04:46:37:085 13d8 watchdog - thread 0, hb time 46
04:46:37:085 13d8 watchdog - thread 1, hb time 15
04:46:37:339 12dc ZEC: Stratum - Cannot connect to equihash.eu.nicehash.com:3357
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04:46:48:318 86c DevFee: ZEC: Stratum - connecting to 'equihash.eu.nicehash.com' <5.153.50.217> port 3357
04:46:48:340 86c send: {"id": 1, "method": "mining.subscribe", "params": ["equihashminer", null, "equihash.eu.nicehash.com", "3357"]}
04:46:48:340 86c send: {"id": 2, "method": "mining.authorize", "params": ["1LmMNkiEvjapn5PRY8A9wypcWJveRrRGWr","x"]}
04:46:48:340 86c send: {"id": 5, "method": "mining.extranonce.subscribe", "params": []}
04:46:48:341 86c DevFee: ZEC: Stratum - Connected (equihash.eu.nicehash.com:3357)
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04:46:57:359 12dc send: {"id": 1, "method": "mining.subscribe", "params": ["equihashminer", null, "equihash.eu.nicehash.com", "3357"]}
04:46:57:359 12dc send: {"id": 2, "method": "mining.authorize", "params": ["1HaLHSjTdCr3buSQWrGnYK7QSzPwaoyKYi.PC","x"]}
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04:47:07:106 13d8 em hbt: 9766, fm hbt: 18799,
04:47:07:106 13d8 watchdog - thread 0, hb time 78
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The author of the code can't know if it was infringed without seeing the source.
I am the author. And yes it was infringed. I can know with 100% confidence, without seeing claymore's full source.
How can I know? Because part of his source leaked in his binary. We can see the content of the assert statements, the name of the variables in these asserts, he name of the functions, the order, type, and number of arguments. Everything matches perfectly my blake.c implementation. And I wrote it myself, from scratch, with no inspiration from anyone else.
Now, I don't personally believe Claymore copied all of silentarmy. I think he just took blake.c which is only ~100 lines of code. That's why his miner is way different than mine.
The authors solver is slower, uses more VRAM, uses a lot more CPU, and PCIe bandwidth, runs on fewer cards, and crashes a lot. Why would you want to copy that?
Actually Silentarmy is faster (by a hair) than Claymore's
But I do use more CPU and more PCIe bandwidth :-(That said, I encourage everybody to CHILL OUT here. I didn't want this issue to be public in the first place (I messaged Claymore privately), but some started discussing here... Give Claymore time to respond. All he has to do is include a copyright notice in his miner, and he will be compliant with the MIT license. That's all.
+1 very easy fix. Why is everyone tripping?
My point was not the holding. But when the value was up there.. when it was 800+ buyers and only 300+ coins the sellers still fucking dropped the value. They do not know how to do supply and demand and keep the price up. Should of set something like minimum sell to 1.8 BTC or something. It would of remained up there in value than if the sellers would work at setting a standard price. But no even when there was less coins to buy than buyers the price was plummeting down because seller wanted to sell quickly than priced it lower than everyone else.. and the next one repeated process and the price just kept getting cheaper and cheaper.
In the beginning it was not so bad.. price would plummet but the coins ran out the dump sellers had. than the price would skyrocket back up! But than it has gotten to be more coins than buyers and sellers had kept plummeting the price. I won't be surprised if the coin becomes worthless because sellers are impatient to sell and will not wait and set there price lower than everyone else keeping the downward spiral.
ZCash should of kept a 1:1 with BTC. Buyers buy ZCash to do there anonymous transactions than cash out in BTC. Keeping amount near the same but instead just have a bunch of miners that want to sell so fast they they set there value one point lower.. price now becomes new price.. next seller does same.. price becomes new price.. repeat, repeat, repeat. Miners would have to work together and set the lowest value and not go any lower to get a standard limit set. But it will not happen as everyone wants to quick dump.. back in the spike period I would set a sell target price that was high and during the spike I would end up selling it.
In the beginning it was not so bad.. price would plummet but the coins ran out the dump sellers had. than the price would skyrocket back up! But than it has gotten to be more coins than buyers and sellers had kept plummeting the price. I won't be surprised if the coin becomes worthless because sellers are impatient to sell and will not wait and set there price lower than everyone else keeping the downward spiral.
ZCash should of kept a 1:1 with BTC. Buyers buy ZCash to do there anonymous transactions than cash out in BTC. Keeping amount near the same but instead just have a bunch of miners that want to sell so fast they they set there value one point lower.. price now becomes new price.. next seller does same.. price becomes new price.. repeat, repeat, repeat. Miners would have to work together and set the lowest value and not go any lower to get a standard limit set. But it will not happen as everyone wants to quick dump.. back in the spike period I would set a sell target price that was high and during the spike I would end up selling it.
The reason for the insane prices at start is hype, and ludicrously low supply. If there is only like 1 coin in the world, it will be worth a lot. Now there are thousands, or course price will be lower. People posting that everyone should hold are either retarded and don't understand supply and demand, and some other concepts, or are just wanting others to hold so they can sell.
Sure if EVERY SINGLE MINER, pool operator, and Chinese farm on the planet held, price might stay high longer, but if this was the case, it would be ludicrously profitable for any of thousands of miners to sell. Any investor could mine a few fractions of a coin on his laptop, and make a killing with no risk. It isn't smart to hoard all your coins when they lose a ton of value per day. Everyone is free to make their own choices. If someone mines 0.01 Zec, them holding will be drops in a bucket, so it likely won't affect price either way.
Reguarding the first few hours. It is completely and absurdly insane to believe the value would hold at $40,000 per coin, and so it is extremely risky to try to hold.
The reason for the price going down is almost entirely a factor of the increasing reward, and coins mined.
I think you totally misunderstood the point. Of course miners will sell their mined coin to pay for the cost of electricity. The point is to not dump it for whatever price is listed, usually the lowest price offered. The point is to sell your coin if you wish but please pay attention to the market price.
What kind of dumbass noob are you exactly?
I am just somebody, that has been programming since about 1975 
Yeah, if the original author's code is right in Claymore's binary file, it's pretty difficult to argue against that...
The author of the code can't know if it was infringed without seeing the source.
I am the author. And yes it was infringed. I can know with 100% confidence, without seeing claymore's full source.
How can I know? Because part of his source leaked in his binary. We can see the content of the assert statements, the name of the variables in these asserts, he name of the functions, the order, type, and number of arguments. Everything matches perfectly my blake.c implementation. And I wrote it myself, from scratch, with no inspiration from anyone else.
Now, I don't personally believe Claymore copied all of silentarmy. I think he just took blake.c which is only ~100 lines of code. That's why his miner is way different than mine.
The authors solver is slower, uses more VRAM, uses a lot more CPU, and PCIe bandwidth, runs on fewer cards, and crashes a lot. Why would you want to copy that?
Actually Silentarmy is faster (by a hair) than Claymore's
But I do use more CPU and more PCIe bandwidth :-(That said, I encourage everybody to CHILL OUT here. I didn't want this issue to be public in the first place (I messaged Claymore privately), but some started discussing here... Give Claymore time to respond. All he has to do is include a copyright notice in his miner, and he will be compliant with the MIT license. That's all.
Keep calm people. It may be just a rumor.
It isn't a rumor when the author of part of the code clearly says his code has been infringed without due credit.The author of the code can't know if it was infringed without seeing the source. The authors solver is slower, uses more VRAM, uses a lot more CPU, and PCIe bandwidth, runs on fewer cards, and crashes a lot. Why would you want to copy that?
Sounds to me more like professional jealously.
Claymore, do you feel you are entitled to rip / use other people's code in your miner?
https://forum.z.cash/t/silentarmy-v3-now-a-full-miner-multi-gpu-stratum/3580/641
https://forum.z.cash/t/silentarmy-v3-now-a-full-miner-multi-gpu-stratum/3580/641
Ouch! Claymore could have just included the copyright notice and there wouldn't have been any problems...
silentarmy's optimization is actually pretty clever, and the original author definitely deserves a credit.
This makes you wonder how much of other people's code Claymore steals without giving credit.
Other of his binaries are "packed" to avoid disassembling. Gee, I wonder what he is hiding.
If the binary is easy to disassemble, it would be easy for someone to take out the dev fee, and then he wouldn't get paid, and have reason to make us great miners. There is this guy that sells private miners, AND after you buy it, you have a crazy high dev fee on top of that. Lets all pay him instead!!!
Keep calm people. It may be just a rumor.
It isn't a rumor when the author of part of the code clearly says his code has been infringed without due credit.The author of the code can't know if it was infringed without seeing the source. The authors solver is slower, uses more VRAM, uses a lot more CPU, and PCIe bandwidth, runs on fewer cards, and crashes a lot. Why would you want to copy that?
What kind of dumbass noob are you exactly?
I am just somebody, that has been programming since about 1975 Keep calm people. It may be just a rumor.
It isn't a rumor when the author of part of the code clearly says his code has been infringed without due credit.The author of the code can't know if it was infringed without seeing the source. The authors solver is slower, uses more VRAM, uses a lot more CPU, and PCIe bandwidth, runs on fewer cards, and crashes a lot. Why would you want to copy that?
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