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sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
May 21, 2016, 11:18:53 AM
Hello Lutpin. As you are controlling the campaign now.
I'm not. I've created a spreadsheet with what I believe to be the right amounts due for payment to each user.
That spreadsheet however is not binding, it's merely an offer I make to notaek.

I want to say that I am not satisfied with this spreadsheet.
Neither am I. However, that's not my spreadsheet to start with. It was created by the user laikuf.

In this spreadsheet I am not eligible for payment because I didn't wrote any posts in Ophion Thread(Rule No.2)
I chose to ignore that rule in my sheet, however I noted those who wouldn't be eligible by that rule, so notaek can decide how to continue.

I am not an spammer or unsubstantial poster. so I think I should get my payment of 22 posts.
It's not my task to evaluate post quality, my sheet is only based on the quantity of posts, not their quality (most of the users here wouldn't have been accepted in one of my campaigns to start with).
I've got you noted down wit 17 posts in mine.



I've created a spreadsheet with the payments I think are fair/due/fitting/..., you can find it under the following url:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1i9Ma81rDFodUDbqZhHgGPnSszrijEgpSvtdzbWycpwg/edit?usp=sharing
If payments are made according to this sheet, notaek is to pay 0.537 to 25 different users.
I chose to ignore the rule requiring 3 posts in their official thread, however, I noted those down that didn't.
However, in the current version, as the sheet is right now, the rules for a minimum of 15 and a maximum of 25 posts stand.
I haven't counted any posts made after May 20, 2016, 08:50:28 AM, which is the time BTCat halted the campaign.

I think it's unfair to use the 20/5 date as the end post date. We signature members were under the impression that we had until today to post. In my case 10 posts are deducted and i get 0 payment according to your sheet. Which is just unfair.
legendary
Activity: 1268
Merit: 1009
May 21, 2016, 11:14:25 AM
As per Lutpin's spreadsheet, I'll be rolling out the payments from my own pocket, later today.
Post here if anything is wrong in it before finalizing the mess.
copper member
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1874
Goodbye, Z.
May 21, 2016, 10:51:20 AM
Hello Lutpin. As you are controlling the campaign now.
I'm not. I've created a spreadsheet with what I believe to be the right amounts due for payment to each user.
That spreadsheet however is not binding, it's merely an offer I make to notaek.

I want to say that I am not satisfied with this spreadsheet.
Neither am I. However, that's not my spreadsheet to start with. It was created by the user laikuf.

In this spreadsheet I am not eligible for payment because I didn't wrote any posts in Ophion Thread(Rule No.2)
I chose to ignore that rule in my sheet, however I noted those who wouldn't be eligible by that rule, so notaek can decide how to continue.

I am not an spammer or unsubstantial poster. so I think I should get my payment of 22 posts.
It's not my task to evaluate post quality, my sheet is only based on the quantity of posts, not their quality (most of the users here wouldn't have been accepted in one of my campaigns to start with).
I've got you noted down wit 17 posts in mine.



I've created a spreadsheet with the payments I think are fair/due/fitting/..., you can find it under the following url:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1i9Ma81rDFodUDbqZhHgGPnSszrijEgpSvtdzbWycpwg/edit?usp=sharing
If payments are made according to this sheet, notaek is to pay 0.537 to 25 different users.
I chose to ignore the rule requiring 3 posts in their official thread, however, I noted those down that didn't.
However, in the current version, as the sheet is right now, the rules for a minimum of 15 and a maximum of 25 posts stand.
I haven't counted any posts made after May 20, 2016, 08:50:28 AM, which is the time BTCat halted the campaign.
hero member
Activity: 3038
Merit: 526
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
May 21, 2016, 10:46:24 AM
Quickseller is right spreadsheet made said by btcat should be post publicly so participants can confirm if the sending address is right and no error again.
There is no spreadsheet created by btcat, the one existing is by laikuf, one of the participants of this campaign.
Furthermore, it seems to be incomplete/partly incorrect to me.
Have a look yourself: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15Q88quCnhK-ZjKrL70C1uaGOJ4iqq7cd3EUzVr_l6qY/edit#gid=0

Hello Lutpin. As you are controlling the campaign now. I want to say that I am not satisfied with this spreadsheet.. In this spreadsheet I am not eligible for payment because I didn't wrote any posts in Ophion Thread(Rule No.2)
Yes I didn't wrote any posts there. I wasn't have any idea what to write there. the rule is completely encouraging spamming. just have a look it Ophion Thread. you'll see everyone spamming there by writing 3 posts just to get payment..

I was thinking to send PM's to compaign manager and owner about the rule. but since everything is getting worst.
I don't think that rule should be followed anymore, .

I am not an spammer or unsubstantial poster. so I think I should get my payment of 22 posts.
yeah i think because this campaign is not fully running in a week and some problem happening, the spreadsheet maker should forget about the rules and just pay by post count,we can't reply to locked thread even once lol,and the sig camp seems running just only about 4days,it's not fair to elect who deserve to be paid through the rules
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1003
May 21, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Quickseller is right spreadsheet made said by btcat should be post publicly so participants can confirm if the sending address is right and no error again.
There is no spreadsheet created by btcat, the one existing is by laikuf, one of the participants of this campaign.
Furthermore, it seems to be incomplete/partly incorrect to me.
Have a look yourself: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15Q88quCnhK-ZjKrL70C1uaGOJ4iqq7cd3EUzVr_l6qY/edit#gid=0

Hello Lutpin. As you are controlling the campaign now. I want to say that I am not satisfied with this spreadsheet.. In this spreadsheet I am not eligible for payment because I didn't wrote any posts in Ophion Thread(Rule No.2)
Yes I didn't wrote any posts there. I wasn't have any idea what to write there. the rule is completely encouraging spamming. just have a look it Ophion Thread. you'll see everyone spamming there by writing 3 posts just to get payment..

I was thinking to send PM's to compaign manager and owner about the rule. but since everything is getting worst.
I don't think that rule should be followed anymore, .

I am not an spammer or unsubstantial poster. so I think I should get my payment of 22 posts.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 4554
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May 21, 2016, 10:06:58 AM
Basically the spreadsheet wasnt made public due to an incompetent manager.
hero member
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Merit: 503
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May 21, 2016, 10:03:00 AM
A spreadsheet was already made by a member and I have forwarded it to Notaek.

If they want to make it public they can post it.

I was hired for one week on 10 May. With funds disapearing I called it an end to the campaign. I'm not happy either with dozens of PM's still going on and the aggression on this thread. I understand it when people miss out on payments but no need to start harrassing or making false statements. At least there seem to be some good intention to repair the situation. If it will be it's not in my hands and I'm not managing this campaign or a resolution any longer.

Thread will stay open.

So why the spreadsheet is not public ?

why everyone saying they not responsible and not showing the spread sheet either.

Is it a part of game plan not to get a Red trust ?
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
May 21, 2016, 09:53:16 AM
Quickseller is right spreadsheet made said by btcat should be post publicly so participants can confirm if the sending address is right and no error again.

Thnx.
That is not what I said, I am saying that it is the responsibility of the escrow to personally verify that he is sending the btc to the correct address and for the correct amount. This ultimately means the escrow checking the enrollment posts himself.
copper member
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1874
Goodbye, Z.
May 21, 2016, 09:51:05 AM
Quickseller is right spreadsheet made said by btcat should be post publicly so participants can confirm if the sending address is right and no error again.
There is no spreadsheet created by btcat, the one existing is by laikuf, one of the participants of this campaign.
Furthermore, it seems to be incomplete/partly incorrect to me.
Have a look yourself: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15Q88quCnhK-ZjKrL70C1uaGOJ4iqq7cd3EUzVr_l6qY/edit#gid=0
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
May 21, 2016, 09:40:22 AM
According to the PMs we've exchanged, notaek is ready to provide the needed funds out of his pocket, not immediately, but over time and in increments.

For doing so, he needs to have the payment information, thats btc addresses and the according amounts.
It doesnt fall in his responsibility to collect those, it's your job to do as a campaign manager.
Anytime I was ever the escrow of a signature campaign, I would always personally verify that each participant had actually posted the address that the campaign manager told me to pay to as well as that each participant had actually made the number of posts the campaign manager claimed they had made. Otherwise he would have no way to knowing that he was actually paying to the correct address and actually paying the correct amounts.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1010
May 21, 2016, 09:32:54 AM
A spreadsheet was already made by a member and I have forwarded it to Notaek.

If they want to make it public they can post it.

I was hired for one week on 10 May. With funds disapearing I called it an end to the campaign. I'm not happy either with dozens of PM's still going on and the aggression on this thread. I understand it when people miss out on payments but no need to start harrassing or making false statements. At least there seem to be some good intention to repair the situation. If it will be it's not in my hands and I'm not managing this campaign or a resolution any longer.

Thread will stay open.
copper member
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1874
Goodbye, Z.
May 21, 2016, 09:30:59 AM
Since BTCat seems to avoid doing what he was hired/paid for, notaek has asked me to make the post count/payment calculations, which I will start with right now.
As he will be paying the amounts from his own pocket, we agreed that it would be better to have the payment calculations made by a 3rd party (me in this case).
Due to the fact that I wasn't involved with this campaign in any way, this might take some more time than usually.

I'd like to empathize that I am in no way affiliated with Ophion, BTCat and notaek,
I'm doing this as a favor for notaek and because I want to see the participants paid aswell.

I'll keep you updated.
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
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May 21, 2016, 08:20:19 AM
Sad ending for this great Coin Campaign

Great ? There was never any coin developed.Just a website to steal your funds.
newbie
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Merit: 0
May 21, 2016, 07:02:04 AM
Sad ending for this great Coin Campaign
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
May 21, 2016, 06:04:27 AM
Since Mr. Notaek has returned the needed funds there is no reason to make it. If anyone wants to, feel free to do so.

If anyone wants to give btc to another person from his own then it's easy to pick some accounts from the first pages.

If I had controlled the funds I would have send everyone 0.025 without even counting posts, that would have been fair.
even if you say that is fair, i dont really think so. because not everybody can post 25 per week
it's right that the rules is really strict but the quality is the main problem in this campaign though  Roll Eyes
copper member
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1874
Goodbye, Z.
May 21, 2016, 05:17:18 AM
If I had controlled the funds I would have send everyone 0.025 without even counting posts, that would have been fair.
According to the PMs we've exchanged, notaek is ready to provide the needed funds out of his pocket, not immediately, but over time and in increments.

For doing so, he needs to have the payment information, thats btc addresses and the according amounts.
It doesnt fall in his responsibility to collect those, it's your job to do as a campaign manager.
Paying the maximum possible 0.025 to everyone you accepted without checking posts and with this being a pay per post campaign, doesn't seem fair to him.
'Id suggest you pick up on the job you were hired to do and collect/submit that information for him.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 501
May 21, 2016, 05:16:41 AM
Since Mr. Notaek has returned the needed funds there is no reason to make it. If anyone wants to, feel free to do so.

If anyone wants to give btc to another person from his own then it's easy to pick some accounts from the first pages.

If I had controlled the funds I would have send everyone 0.025 without even counting posts, that would have been fair.

its fair enough, I'm remove signature today.
waiting to get payment.

i wana join too. Please add me in your campiagn

Clearly people like you who make blind posts shouldn't be accepted in any campaign. At least make an effort to read before posting something.
hero member
Activity: 668
Merit: 500
May 21, 2016, 04:57:55 AM
Since Mr. Notaek has returned the needed funds there is no reason to make it. If anyone wants to, feel free to do so.

If anyone wants to give btc to another person from his own then it's easy to pick some accounts from the first pages.

If I had controlled the funds I would have send everyone 0.025 without even counting posts, that would have been fair.

its fair enough, I'm remove signature today.
waiting to get payment.

i wana join too. Please add me in your campiagn

lol. you are drunks ? this the campaign have the problem
we need to get payment soon and this campaign is over.
hero member
Activity: 668
Merit: 500
May 21, 2016, 04:50:33 AM
Since Mr. Notaek has returned the needed funds there is no reason to make it. If anyone wants to, feel free to do so.

If anyone wants to give btc to another person from his own then it's easy to pick some accounts from the first pages.

If I had controlled the funds I would have send everyone 0.025 without even counting posts, that would have been fair.

its fair enough, I'm remove signature today.
waiting to get payment.
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1010
May 21, 2016, 04:30:28 AM
Since Mr. Notaek has returned the needed funds there is no reason to make it. If anyone wants to, feel free to do so.

If anyone wants to give btc to another person from his own then it's easy to pick some accounts from the first pages.

If I had controlled the funds I would have send everyone 0.025 without even counting posts, that would have been fair.
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