[CLOSED] Ophion Signature Campaign - page 5.

bitcoin-hunter

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Quote from: Harpua on May 20, 2016, 08:31:41 PM

Quote from: bitcoin-hunter on May 20, 2016, 08:27:36 PM

There is a thing called justice. Every man and woman knows about it and what you did was injustice.
You, being a signature manager yourself (which makes you story very very very hard to believe) get an e-mail about closing the campaign.

These things happends. There is just 1 day before payment. You were asked for holding funds escrow for.. THE signature campaign.

Your sense tells you..
Hmm yeah wait let me not see what is happening there?
Hmm what about the signature campaign members? Tomorrow they get payment?

LOL no you stature as a 'signature campaign manager' leads to you pay.

With escrows like you we don't need any escrow ever for escrow. What you did was exactly the thing for which escrows are in the first place.
And still you act innocent? Uh uh Wink

Exactly, and the funny thing is that there wasn't even a hint of curiosity to check out the spam boards or anything else on here to see what the current situation was with everyone else... I guess in his eyes, it's better to sell out and allow these guys to get away with ~17 BTC and probably get a good chunk of the cut, than sell his account to someone else straight up... because now his trust is probably going to go down from this point on.

He will not sell it now, because he still plays the innocent child/dog.

We are not good for trust (though we got good arguments), but we are not alone in this quest:
https://archive.is/ZlxKg

Selling out yourself for 1 BTC that's low, Whatever he will do in live. His price was less then 450 dollars. That's cheap man.

Quote from: senyorito123 on May 20, 2016, 08:33:35 PM

The very best thing to do now is audit who is the participant and they should be payed for their works their some fund heing escrowed and that shoulf be given to participants even though the campaign is close, this is not very good for the community if something like this will be happen again.

Manager should make audit who participants would be payed Even though its little btc but the matter their is participant should be payed for their hard work.

The manager BTCat is not a very intelligent guy either (probably why the scammers chose them).

About BTCat:
He did not make a spreadsheet after almost a week after being asked to by.. almost everyone.
He also got his twitter account banned while promoting his promotion service.

It seems the scammers found the most idiotic people on this forum.... and perhaps even alive

senyorito123

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#SWGT PRE-SALE IS LIVE

The very best thing to do now is audit who is the participant and they should be payed for their works their some fund heing escrowed and that shoulf be given to participants even though the campaign is close, this is not very good for the community if something like this will be happen again.

Manager should make audit who participants would be payed Even though its little btc but the matter their is participant should be payed for their hard work.

Harpua

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Spastic dead-eyed hound.

Quote from: bitcoin-hunter on May 20, 2016, 08:27:36 PM

There is a thing called justice. Every man and woman knows about it and what you did was injustice.
You, being a signature manager yourself (which makes you story very very very hard to believe) get an e-mail about closing the campaign.

These things happends. There is just 1 day before payment. You were asked for holding funds escrow for.. THE signature campaign.

Your sense tells you..
Hmm yeah wait let me not see what is happening there?
Hmm what about the signature campaign members? Tomorrow they get payment?

LOL no you stature as a 'signature campaign manager' leads to you pay.

With escrows like you we don't need any escrow ever for escrow. What you did was exactly the thing for which escrows are in the first place.
And still you act innocent? Uh uh Wink

Exactly, and the funny thing is that there wasn't even a hint of curiosity to check out the spam boards or anything else on here to see what the current situation was with everyone else... I guess in his eyes, it's better to sell out and allow these guys to get away with ~17 BTC and probably get a good chunk of the cut, than sell his account to someone else straight up... because now his trust is probably going to go down from this point on.

bitcoin-hunter

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Quote from: notaek on May 20, 2016, 08:21:33 PM

Quote from: bitcoin-hunter on May 20, 2016, 07:44:19 PM

Are you kidding us?

The campaign was more then halfway underway (just 1 day) before payment) and you decided to just return it?

Fully aware that
1 The site site was locked
2 All threads were locked, meaning it was a scam to happen
3 Again the campaign was 1 day away for payment
4 You escrowed got PM's and decided to go into silentmode for over 16 hours

But your egoistic mind thought (I can earn btc because he stated;"I will definitely contact you again after we deal with the flaws in our project").

This 4 reasons are more then enough to me that you are either on the scam, or you benefited else wise.

You didn't even contacted the community manager...

Eitherway you should be held responsible after such a big mess up (see my 4 points)

P.S. Even if he did wanted to tripple the BTC and give it all to Unicef. The signature campaign members should be paid if there is just (let me repeat it) 1 day away from payment.

What's wrong with these so called campaign managers
Gianluca aka the Spam King
Notaek a greedy bastard who double cross to make profit and then act 'stupid'

__________
You paid him 2/3 hours ago:
https://blockchain.info/address/1LnjyM12aPkzceninWeoEFkiTYXpVNH6Tp

So many posts about OPHION has come up. Even a SCAM accusation thread and you tell me, you all missed that?

0.025 is not a lot of money, but 1 BTC or 17 BTC they stole is. And I am sure you can't be this stupid since you did more signature campaigns...
Paying them and missing the bitcointalk is just too much of a coincidence.

We all know that...

Well, without asking anything its better not to assume anything yourself.

This thread was already locked down by BTCat. And I had a few conversation with BTCat regarding the matter.

It was the signed message, which I'm afraid had me convinced to return the funds.

I apologise for not being sensible enough with my decicion but all I can do now is to partially payout the participants from the service fee he sent me.

I respect your opinion but I haven't been through this situation before.

There is a thing called justice. Every man and woman knows about it and what you did was injustice.
You, being a signature manager yourself (which makes you story very very very hard to believe) get an e-mail about closing the campaign.

These things happends. There is just 1 day before payment. You were asked for holding funds escrow for.. THE signature campaign.

Your sense tells you..
Hmm yeah wait let me not see what is happening there?
Hmm what about the signature campaign members? Tomorrow they get payment?

LOL no you stature as a 'signature campaign manager' leads to you pay.

With escrows like you we don't need any escrow ever for escrow. What you did was exactly the thing for which escrows are in the first place.
And still you act innocent? Uh uh Wink

notaek

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Activity: 1268

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I request BTCat to prepare his spreadsheet and send me the amount I need to repay.
Lets see if I can find a solution to this.

P.S I'm having no affiliation with ophion in any ways.

notaek

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Quote from: bitcoin-hunter on May 20, 2016, 07:44:19 PM

Are you kidding us?

The campaign was more then halfway underway (just 1 day) before payment) and you decided to just return it?

Fully aware that
1 The site site was locked
2 All threads were locked, meaning it was a scam to happen
3 Again the campaign was 1 day away for payment
4 You escrowed got PM's and decided to go into silentmode for over 16 hours

But your egoistic mind thought (I can earn btc because he stated;"I will definitely contact you again after we deal with the flaws in our project").

This 4 reasons are more then enough to me that you are either on the scam, or you benefited else wise.

You didn't even contacted the community manager...

Eitherway you should be held responsible after such a big mess up (see my 4 points)

P.S. Even if he did wanted to tripple the BTC and give it all to Unicef. The signature campaign members should be paid if there is just (let me repeat it) 1 day away from payment.

What's wrong with these so called campaign managers
Gianluca aka the Spam King
Notaek a greedy bastard who double cross to make profit and then act 'stupid'

__________
You paid him 2/3 hours ago:
https://blockchain.info/address/1LnjyM12aPkzceninWeoEFkiTYXpVNH6Tp

So many posts about OPHION has come up. Even a SCAM accusation thread and you tell me, you all missed that?

0.025 is not a lot of money, but 1 BTC or 17 BTC they stole is. And I am sure you can't be this stupid since you did more signature campaigns...
Paying them and missing the bitcointalk is just too much of a coincidence.

We all know that...

Well, without asking anything its better not to assume anything yourself.

This thread was already locked down by BTCat. And I had a few conversation with BTCat regarding the matter.

It was the signed message, which I'm afraid had me convinced to return the funds.

I apologise for not being sensible enough with my decicion but all I can do now is to partially payout the participants from the service fee he sent me.

I respect your opinion but I haven't been through this situation before.

bitcoin-hunter

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Quote from: Harpua on May 20, 2016, 08:11:31 PM

Quote from: notaek on May 20, 2016, 07:34:16 PM

I received an email from hazelnutter, demanding back his coins.

-snipped-

You are a fucking joke. I mean, really? ...

If you wanted to ensure that he would keep up to his word (which he probably isn't going to do) (or maybe this is your alt account or whatever) you would have requested that you get the list of return address (which there probably isn't) and you would send them back personally (which you probably won't).

Also, I've helped him point out bugs on his (shitty) website, as well as other people helped pitch in and was excited about this (god awful) project.

You guys are the worst...

He is not a joke, he was in on it or got a good amount of bitcoins to cover his involvement. Facts are facts and I opened a scam accusation thread against him https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14915266

Let's be real. There is no way he was asleep and just transferred the bitcoins. No way.

Edit
And yes it's not about my payment. For the record: I did not make a screenshot and hereby deny payment from stolen money.

But he (Notaek) appearenty being both an escrow and signature campaign manager (WTF how can someone like him got be trusted for both?) forget about his duties and chose for easy money thinking he was out of range of the facts.

Harpua

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Spastic dead-eyed hound.

Quote from: notaek on May 20, 2016, 07:34:16 PM

I received an email from hazelnutter, demanding back his coins.

-snipped-

You are a fucking joke. I mean, really? ...

If you wanted to ensure that he would keep up to his word (which he probably isn't going to do) (or maybe this is your alt account or whatever) you would have requested that you get the list of return address (which there probably isn't) and you would send them back personally (which you probably won't).

Also, I've helped him point out bugs on his (shitty) website, as well as other people helped pitch in and was excited about this (god awful) project.

You guys are the worst...

bitcoin-hunter

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Lutpin

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: notaek on May 20, 2016, 07:34:16 PM

Let me know if I was wrong with my decision.

Yes.

notaek

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I received an email from hazelnutter, demanding back his coins. He sent me a signed message which said:

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Hello notaek,

Due to legendary idiot member Hueristic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=198573), We are having a hard time continuing developement or getting interested parties involved with development. We have now just lost one of the exchanges because of his messages. He is ruining what Ophion could be for you.

Ophion is to be developed by 2 people I know well and have worked with (Still in discussion about payment) We can continue this project but I really dont know how much we can make from it now as a bit of fud like this can turn people off.

As the project is terminated we don't think about continuing our signature campaign and so I am requesting you to return me the bitcoins I kept in your escrow address. These are investor's funds which I will have to return them as a token of good will. Returning the funds to investors is more important than paying out to signature spammers.

Kindly send me them to 1LnjyM12aPkzceninWeoEFkiTYXpVNH6Tp

Thank you for taking time. You have been a good escrower. I will definitely contact you again after we deal with the flaws in our project.

- -Sebastian
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I obeyed what he instructed me to do since he mentioned about returning them to the investors.
Let me know if I was wrong with my decision.

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Hello notaek,

Due to legendary idiot member Hueristic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?=
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ust lost one of the exchanges because of his messages. He is ruining what O=
phion could be for you.

Ophion is to be developed by 2 people I know well and have worked with (Sti=
ll in discussion about payment) We can continue this project but I really d=
ont know how much we can make from it now as a bit of fud like this can tur=
n people off.

As the project is terminated we don't think about continuing our signature =
campaign and so I am requesting you to return me the bitcoins I kept in you=
r escrow address. These are investor's funds which I will have to return th=
em as a token of good will. Returning the funds to investors is more import=
ant than paying out to signature spammers.

Kindly send me them to 1LnjyM12aPkzceninWeoEFkiTYXpVNH6Tp

Thank you for taking time. You have been a good escrower. I will definitely=
contact you again after we deal with the flaws in our project.

- -Sebastian
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Hello notaek,

Due to legendary idiot member Hueristic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?=
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ment or getting interested parties involved with development. We have now j=
ust lost one of the exchanges because
of his messages. He is ruining what Ophion could be for you.

Ophion is to be developed by 2 people I know well and have worked with (Sti=
ll in discussion about payment) We can continue this project but I really d=
ont know how much we can make from it now as a bit of fud like this can tur=
n people off.

As the project is terminated we don't think about continuing our signature =
campaign and so I am requesting you to return me the bitcoins I kept in you=
r escrow address. These are investor's funds which I will have to return th=
em as a token of good will. Returning
the funds to investors is more important than paying out to signature spam=
mers.

Kindly send me them to 1LnjyM12aPkzceninWeoEFkiTYXpVNH6Tp

Thank you for taking time. You have been a good escrower. I will definitely=
contact you again after we deal with the flaws in our project.

- -Sebastian

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LarryHocks

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on May 20, 2016, 06:48:08 PM

If escrow will have any funds left after paying to sig campaign members, it would be very cool if he could pay 0.0346 BTC to me, because Ophion devs owe me that sum for my translation services.

At least you got payment, investors have lost 100%.

But this post must help you out:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14914273

It would be good if you share the info you have with the others, so we can find this bastard(s),.

LarryHocks

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Bloody scammers. Can't believe I even hold some of this BS coin...

https://archive.is/YCZZl

hatshepsut93

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If escrow will have any funds left after paying to sig campaign members, it would be very cool if he could pay 0.0346 BTC to me, because Ophion devs owe me that sum for my translation services.

senyorito123

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#SWGT PRE-SALE IS LIVE

I cant archive im using only smart phone to bad since this is new campaign.

Hope we can get our payments and money invested will be returned to investors.

BombayChicken

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I am wearing my signature and I am archiving this post. I also PM-ed the escrow for a statement.

Edit
Archived my Profile link
http://archive.is/XuFhG

Edit 2
No more signature

P.S. Does someone knows how long archive.is stores it's data?

Lutpin

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Goodbye, Z.

Quote from: chennan on May 20, 2016, 05:59:11 PM

Just curious how to archive my posts? I've never dealt with anything like this before in the past... is it something that I need to type in URL somewhere maybe?

There are sites for that purpose, archive.is being one of the most populare ones.
http://archive.is/nVszz#90% (your post)
http://archive.is/FlYG0 (profile page)

Quote from: BombayChicken on May 20, 2016, 06:06:19 PM

P.S. Does someone knows how long archive.is stores it's data?

How long the page will be stored?
Virtually forever. We have a lot of free space and alhough the archive grows with time, the storage and bandwidth get cheaper.
(From their FAQ.)

chennan

legendary

Activity: 1316

Merit: 1004

Quote from: Lutpin on May 20, 2016, 05:14:54 PM

I'd like to make a suggestion to all participants in this campaign:
Stop advertising them, immediately.
(Yes, even though the site is down at the moment, doesn't really matter.)

You can make a post in this thread, then archive it or just post an archived version of your profile page (archive.is).
That way, when deciding the payouts, notaek and BTCat both can see that you were wearing the signature for the full time of the campaign.
After that, remove them from your signature.

Just curious how to archive my posts? I've never dealt with anything like this before in the past... is it something that I need to type in URL somewhere maybe?

Lutpin

copper member

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1874

Goodbye, Z.

I'd like to make a suggestion to all participants in this campaign:
Stop advertising them, immediately.
(Yes, even though the site is down at the moment, doesn't really matter.)

You can make a post in this thread, then archive it or just post an archived version of your profile page (archive.is).
That way, when deciding the payouts, notaek and BTCat both can see that you were wearing the signature for the full time of the campaign.
After that, remove them from your signature.

BTCat

legendary

Activity: 1960

Merit: 1010

Quote from: X-ray on May 20, 2016, 03:19:06 AM

Quote from: BTCat on May 20, 2016, 03:14:18 AM

Quote from: X-ray on May 20, 2016, 03:02:54 AM

i have a question here,by looking into the 2nd rules which tell:
3 of your posts for the week should be posted in the Ophion thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-ophion-a-secure-anonymous-decentralized-market-crowdsale-live-1464725
i doubt it can be done since the thread was closed and does the signature campaign still running untill 4 weeks as stated by hazelnutter before?
after the first week fo signature campaign was done,all the previous participants will be cleared from the spreadsheet and need to apply once again with "first come first served" rules?

The thread was not closed so the 3 posts can be made!

All current participants get time until sunday to reconfirm they want to stay in for the 2nd week. Only after that we can see how many free slots there are and how many new can apply.

sorry sir but the thread was closed

we can only watch the thread nor to reply

I'm sorry, you are right. I only found out now that there is a problem.

I'm afraid this means this campaign is also halted until I found out what happened and what the Escrow will do in response. As stated in OP I do not control the funds and I'm just hired to run this campaign. Sorry guys.

Topic: [CLOSED] Ophion Signature Campaign - page 5. (Read 7538 times)