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Topic: [CLOSED] S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx - page 73. (Read 316448 times)

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Your 0.5/share is impossible as I've said already as it values the company more than 21 million bitcoin.



Ignoring all the actual data about wether the price should be 0.5 or 0.005, you seem pretty sure that being more than 21 million bitcoin somehow is impossible. I wonder why you think that? Why cannot something be worth more than 21 million bitcoins?
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If we conservatively assume profit of 100kBTC in 2013, then over 100,000,000 shares, that is a profit of 0.001 per share. If this represents an acceptable 1% a month in profit, at a 5x P/E (as per S.DICE financial statements) we are looking at a price of 0.5/share.

Now, why it is worth more. It is worth more because it is worth less now. This is a difficult concept for new or inexperienced investors to grasp, but how markets work is to buy up underpriced shares and then continue buying so that the average price represents what they feel the investment was originally worth, and then to start taking profits.

So conceivably S.DICE will hit around .8/share then fall back down to .5. That is what the gross price action will look like. My ETA on this is another 1-2 years.

0.001 profit/share at 5x P/E implies a share price of 0.005.  Less than it's currently trading at (~0.0072 on MPEX last I looked). 0.005 is actually around the price I think it is good value, although recent profitability does support a higher valuation based solely of profit but I think there are a lot of risks that should discount the value in my estimation.

Your 0.5/share is impossible as I've said already as it values the company more than 21 million bitcoin.

vip
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0.5/share values S.DICE at 50 million bitcoin - by my simplistic fundamental analysis that is impossible.

0.05/share values it at 5 million bitcoin - still way too high in my opinion.

I can see it reaching maybe 0.01/share but I think that is too risky too. I think the one of the risks is that if the last two months profits are due to a small number of whales then they won't be able to afford to keep losing ~20k btc per month for long and then profits will decline. I could be wrong, maybe the whales are more numerous than I imagine, maybe they are some high rollers playing by proxy from Macau or something.

Normally I charge for advice like this but I'm pretty stocked up on S.DICE now, so I'll take my fee as talking my own book.

Profits are up 100% since inception. If we conservatively assume profit of 100kBTC in 2013, then over 100,000,000 shares, that is a profit of 0.001 per share. If this represents an acceptable 1% a month in profit, at a 5x P/E (as per S.DICE financial statements) we are looking at a price of 0.5/share.

Now, why it is worth more. It is worth more because it is worth less now. This is a difficult concept for new or inexperienced investors to grasp, but how markets work is to buy up underpriced shares and then continue buying so that the average price represents what they feel the investment was originally worth, and then to start taking profits.

So conceivably S.DICE will hit around .8/share then fall back down to .5. That is what the gross price action will look like. My ETA on this is another 1-2 years.
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Erik,

Fix that cell or I won't sleep  Cheesy

k
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0.5/share values S.DICE at 50 million bitcoin - by my simplistic fundamental analysis that is impossible.

0.05/share values it at 5 million bitcoin - still way too high in my opinion.

I can see it reaching maybe 0.01/share but I think that is too risky too. I think the one of the risks is that if the last two months profits are due to a small number of whales then they won't be able to afford to keep losing ~20k btc per month for long and then profits will decline. I could be wrong, maybe the whales are more numerous than I imagine, maybe they are some high rollers playing by proxy from Macau or something.
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even 0.05/share is way too much.

Could be the price payed by a major gambling actor before the breakfast
vip
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What is the price you reckon them to be?

Based on my own analysis S.DICE is now worth almost 0.05/share.


FYA

even 0.05/share is way too much.

This is why they will go to 0.5. ;-)

Always drink upstream from the herd. You do not know what you are witnessing.
k
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What is the price you reckon them to be?

Based on my own analysis S.DICE is now worth almost 0.05/share.


FYA

even 0.05/share is way too much.
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What is the price you reckon them to be?

Based on my own analysis S.DICE is now worth almost 0.05/share.


FYA
vip
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What is the price you reckon them to be?

Based on my own analysis S.DICE is now worth almost 0.5/share.

Did you forget a zero or two?

Did you do a fundamental analysis of S.DICE?
hero member
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What is the price you reckon them to be?

Based on my own analysis S.DICE is now worth almost 0.5/share.

Did you forget a zero or two?
k
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What is the price you reckon them to be?

Based on my own analysis S.DICE is now worth almost 0.5/share.


So at 100 million shares total (10 million available on MPEX), that makes a market cap of 50 million bitcoin  Huh
vip
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What is the price you reckon them to be?

Based on my own analysis S.DICE is now worth almost 0.5/share.
hero member
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S.DICE shareholders earned 2.75% dividend yield just in the month of January (based on 0.0073 current share price). Annualized, this is a 32.99% dividend at current share prices.

Tell me what it'd be at IPO prices.  Grin
legendary
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Democracy is the original 51% attack
January Statement

The dividend for S.DICE has now been paid for January. Once again, best month yet.

Summary:
Earnings:   20067.37319487
Hosting/Tech Expenses:   60
Loss Carryover from Nov: 0
   
Net Profit   20007.37319487
10% MPEX Dividend   2000.73731948

Volume over past month:  1,198,694.74
Actual Profit over past month:  20,067.37
Expected Profit over past month:   22,775.20

Updated P&L: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aiec3-Eo_yO5dG5SQklHZG4wRm1GMW9DRWpMMW5UQkE#gid=7

S.DICE shareholders earned 2.75% dividend yield just in the month of January (based on 0.0073 current share price). Annualized, this is a 32.99% dividend at current share prices.

The gambling industry will not be ignoring Bitcoin much longer, I assure you Wink
hero member
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Pretty cool stuff!
legendary
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Wow, not bad!:

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In fact, playing is so easy that you can do it without even visiting the website. For example, if you have Bitcoins, try sending them to the address:

 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6

Unfortunately the address in the article isn't clickable, although the following paragraph says that it is:

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You can even click on that address above and see people placing bets in real time.
hero member
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Wow, not bad!:

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In fact, playing is so easy that you can do it without even visiting the website. For example, if you have Bitcoins, try sending them to the address:

 1dice97ECuByXAvqXpaYzSaQuPVvrtmz6
legendary
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Democracy is the original 51% attack
SatoshiDice kills it on the home page of CalvinAyre.com... one of the most widely watched gambling industry sites.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2013-02-01-calvinayrecom-why-bitcoin-can-no-longer-be-ignored-140583

hero member
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... it only gets better...
S.DICE dividends will probably be higher this month thanks to my 100+ BTC loss  Tongue

Thanks...
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