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Topic: [Closed]R17x: Black Arrow Prospero X-3 <DZMC Exclusive> $130 / 40GHS - page 38. (Read 121869 times)

legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
I just want to say to people who are starting to say "scam", that I did receive my refund from bogsag3 without any problems.

I send bogsag3 a PM with:
- order numbers
- payment amount for each order
- the registered bitcoin adr
- signed message of proff that i control the adr.

So far has thomas_s, bobsag3 and DZ acted both trustworthy and professional.


LMMFAO

May I suggest putting away your hookah for a few days, thus giving what few brain cells you have left time to regenerate?

I'm willing to bet that DZ doesn't have a copy of the month-to-month lease of Matt Carson's old facilities (he claimed there were two, when in fact I proved there was only one). If DZ does, perhaps he can call the owner(s) of said building(s) and find out for himself how Matt Carson skipped out after only paying the first month rent, offering up excuses as to way he didn't have the money yet to catch up on the arrears.

Now, I'm not versed in running a bitcoin mining farm, but if I were, would growing plants next to bitcoin miners increase or decrease the hash (no pun intended) rate if such were in a massive warehouse located in...wait for it...Colorado? I'm just asking!

Luckily, everything I pen isn't worth a rat's ass, ergo no way in hell would any federal entity look into Matt Carson's operation, or any other farms I'm about to expose.

~Bruno Kucinskas
hero member
Activity: 546
Merit: 500
Owner, Minersource.net
To be sure, are refunds are being done for the direct BTC value that was payed for the share? Or the adjusted BTC price for current market value of BTC?

This is good to clarify to make sure there is no confusion....

Direct BTC or USD value paid.
member
Activity: 67
Merit: 10
To be sure, are refunds are being done for the direct BTC value that was payed for the share? Or the adjusted BTC price for current market value of BTC?

This is good to clarify to make sure there is no confusion....
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
One coin to rule them all
I just want to say to people who are starting to say "scam", that I did receive my refund from bogsag3 without any problems.

I send bogsag3 a PM with:
- order numbers
- payment amount for each order
- the registered bitcoin adr
- signed message of proff that i control the adr.

So far has thomas_s, bobsag3 and DZ acted both trustworthy and professional.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
I'm not sure why people are messaging me with refund requests they must all go to bobsag3 's PM's, emails / support tickets / PM's to me will not be responded to.

As I'm not doing refunds I don't think bobsag3 is reading over the posts for refund requests as his post said to PM him with your order details.

Also 2 weeks ago refunds weren't being issued.
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
'All that glitters is not gold'
Hello !

I would like a refund for my 6 x R17 shares  to this address: 1DBdYPimhRSi5YWGJSbCcnp6XtKSMpKJeZ

I have purchased  5x R17 shares from madpoet and 1x R17 share from Lloydie.

PM sent too.

UPDATE:

order # 1103: 1 share

order #670: 5 shares
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
I think they will not issue the refund because they are scamming us. I sent a refund request 2 weeks ago. thomas_s never replied.
full member
Activity: 130
Merit: 100
Hi.
Please refund order 1272 and 787 to original payment address.  Thank you.  53 shares total.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
I would like a refund

Order #1312
1 SHARE
Payment Address on file 16ukNx6E8HX18faFRhV6YB8NpoEhX6rAFT


I believe the below is the correct txid.

https://blockchain.info/address/1C5Z7UULs7rmVnojVGVrdVuTnCh8JcqPJ9
member
Activity: 74
Merit: 10
I request a refund for my last two orders. I opened a ticket on the archived site.
Order #1468 and order #1355 for a total of 23 shares of GB17.

My bitcoin address is:
1J8pTN6hznZYuH7JdXCziBFDGadP6ZiqRp

I can take paypal if that is easier.
Thanks,
danleuthner
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
I also did not have a refund yet from r17, but I requested it a bit later than others.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
Refund requested for 5 shares as per original post above with refund to be sent to the same address.

I am also requesting a refund of my Minersource X-1 purchase (order #955). My order no longer appears in your system due to the database migration. Please advise if I need to request this refund through the Minersource website.

Next batch of refunds has been sent.


I haven't received a PM or a refund re R17x yet. Are you still working through them?

What's the deal with Minersource X-1 purchases? Whilst I requested a refund here I'm still uncertain if I want to hold out on them or not. Probably not the best thread to ask in but I'm sure others would appreciate seeing the answer.
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
Hi bobsag3

Sent you PM re the refund, apologies for giving you the wrong address it seems, please can you resend as the trans id does not show up in blockchain.

thanks.

Please can you respond to this request, thanks.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
Is there a deadline for the refund requests? would it be february 24th? because I am still on the fence about it.

Thanks again for the great work and it's a shame things worked out like this.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
I have to agree. The DZ guys seem to be professional and trustworthy!

My days of speculating on hardware that may or may not exist are over, no more pre orders for me.

Here's hoping the Neptunes come through for us.

From all of us: Thanks!

I'm feeling like Bitmain and KnC are the only ones to be trusted to deliver new hardware (even if KnC hardware itself has been problematic for us). That, and maybe AM when their next Gen arrives.
sr. member
Activity: 373
Merit: 250
Hey Thomas,

Could I also be added to the refund list? Order #907, pay to address 1NtgJf4znCsA5GJDCbqtowHL2143WyqLkC. Thanks so much!
full member
Activity: 381
Merit: 100
PRiVCY
Next batch of refunds has been sent.

News-
Tapeout for the minion is now Febuary 20th, as announced by BA this morning (I may or may not have known sooner, but NDAs Tongue)

didnt get the refund, can you please check again?

bobsag3, please kindly refund my 3 shares as well (pm also sent):

order 1408, 3 shares
tx id 35470c331f094beb4f4e9c038f9c3a1022dfd56d7465f1816186fee057331408
1NxmXZNiQ1pvaLyv2hCvva9oHhp1S22wji
0,61BTC
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
I would like a refund please.

Amount: 1.12874992 BTC
Order: #1037
Shares: 10
Order placed: December 2nd 2013

Refund address: 1B6J76fNpcCk85YALdmPr2qJ1eVzsXq9Ms

Many thanks!

Don't see it in Blockchain.info yet Smiley https://blockchain.info/address/1B6J76fNpcCk85YALdmPr2qJ1eVzsXq9Ms
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1062
One coin to rule them all
If the tapeout is on February 20th, where does that put us? When can we realistically start mining?  I know setting a concrete date is hard, but any estimate could help us investors decide if a refund is the better option or if we should hold on to our shares Smiley

tremendous job so far!

I think the realistic estimate is "beginning of May" from what I've heard. That would seem like a reasonable estimate if tapeout happens soonish, from what I understand. Not that I know that much about hardware development. ;-)

Anyway, I'm sticking in with my 6 shares. #yolo ;-)
The BA thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/black-arrow-ltd-order-xxx-prospero-x-1-and-prospero-x-3-delivery-delays-439722 indicates batch 1 orders will go at same time as batch 2 which is 1st of May. They have also offered 25% of minion chip hash power hosted for four months as compensation.

With other mining pre-orders being sold out/closed now, it's left me in a dilemma on refunds, as there really is nowhere left to re-invest any refund that makes sense as a BTC mining investment, with possible exception of Antminer S1's. So I think i'm going to hold.

I must confess I am both pleased and confused with bobsag3 offering a refund. As a reseller, I would of thought it's in your interests to open up the shares of whoever wants a refund to anyone that wants in. Surely the way you are doing it is killing your order book and therefore profits, so I have to ask why???

Well, one explanation could be that the BTC rate is low right now compared to late november early december, therefor if the BTC was converted into fiat back then, then will it not hurt that much to refund. Even though we all love bitcoins, operating expenses are still paid in fiat, therefor is a instant conversion to fiat are the most safe thing to do.

(I am just speculating)
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
If the tapeout is on February 20th, where does that put us? When can we realistically start mining?  I know setting a concrete date is hard, but any estimate could help us investors decide if a refund is the better option or if we should hold on to our shares Smiley

tremendous job so far!

I think the realistic estimate is "beginning of May" from what I've heard. That would seem like a reasonable estimate if tapeout happens soonish, from what I understand. Not that I know that much about hardware development. ;-)

Anyway, I'm sticking in with my 6 shares. #yolo ;-)
The BA thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/black-arrow-ltd-order-xxx-prospero-x-1-and-prospero-x-3-delivery-delays-439722 indicates batch 1 orders will go at same time as batch 2 which is 1st of May. They have also offered 25% of minion chip hash power hosted for four months as compensation.

With other mining pre-orders being sold out/closed now, it's left me in a dilemma on refunds, as there really is nowhere left to re-invest any refund that makes sense as a BTC mining investment, with possible exception of Antminer S1's. So I think i'm going to hold.

I must confess I am both pleased and confused with bobsag3 offering a refund. As a reseller, I would of thought it's in your interests to open up the shares of whoever wants a refund to anyone that wants in. Surely the way you are doing it is killing your order book and therefore profits, so I have to ask why???
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