Topic: CLOUDBET IS SCAM! They are not paying for winning bets! - page 3. (Read 1302 times)

Thanks, lets make this things clear.
I will add this also as proof when i did contact the guy from my PM's -> http://prntscr.com/mg6k0f  ( February 02, 2019, 07:44:05 PM )
And when he contacted me over telegram -> http://prntscr.com/mg6k7k ( February 02, 2019, 10:10 PM)
From what i can see, he received email from the scammer here -> https://imgur.com/a/eu89OAQ ( February 02, 2019, 02:33:03)

Lets match the timestamp.
OP should also verify his GMT time so we can match the timing.

marlboroza, thanks for the false abused negative trust, you got just the same from me.
Since when it is illegal or something bad to offer help people for money.
Money that should not be send before.
And yes, based on the statistics all scammers asking money upfront/bribe.
That's not something new and everyone know that, if you don't then open your eyes and take a look at how most scammers work.
If you telling me that i suggested OP to pay the scammers bribe, take a closer look after he giving me more detailed information about the case, how i told him to not pay them even cent.
In first place it was more than obvious they threaten him to pay money, and yes i do suggest people to pay any amount to take what was scammed, especially with that amount.
That "bribe" can be put in escrow so the scammers can take it after they unlock his account.
Take a closer look in our conversation between me and OP and then judge with your brain.
People with DT powers should be little bit more smart than this and judge after reading.

The op was right not to trust you. From the quoted screenshots, you were clearly encouraging him to pay a 2btc "bribe" - which I dont think is a real offer from cloudbet. Why would they demand a bribe on telegram when they plan keeping all of the funds? It does not make sense. While we are at it, what are you charging 0.1btc for?

Anyways, lets not derail the thread with this nonsense. Its scary to think you were supposedly a trusted member of the forum.

Quoted for reference and archived here http://archive.is/qVLrk

That was very fast retaliatory feedback pointing in topic of this thread.

Don't spam my inbox.

There is something sketchy with the OP.
I offered him my help for 0.1btc AFTER i manage to turn back his btc and he denied it. ( Who will decline paying 0.1 to return back 38btc consider i didn't ask him to pay me upfront)
Why would anyone from cloud bet send him  email with random telegram to contact them instead of sending him official email?
Why would he add the telegram on the email and letting the scammers manipulate him asking for money.

OP, could you please share with us the conversation with the scammers over telegram?

Do not put words from my name, let me screenshot the whole conversation between me and you.
Screens from our conversation:
http://prntscr.com/mg60pw
http://prntscr.com/mg60v8
http://prntscr.com/mg60yk
http://prntscr.com/mg6122
http://prntscr.com/mg616f
http://prntscr.com/mg61cf
http://prntscr.com/mg61fu

I clearly said they will ask you for bribe because that's what all scamming casinos do.
As you can read, i also told you to NOT PAY THEM anything.
I am fool to trying to give you advice, but the best advice so far from my side was to not pay them anything.
Next time when you try to put words on my mouth, don't forget that people keep record of their conversation.
Based on the lies you saying so far, i don't believe they cheated you also.
You told me they asking 5btc from you, and i told you to not pay them that amount and always start to negotiate if you even want to go with their rules.
And in the end i told you to not pay them anything.
Anyway, i am not with anyone, and especially with any casinos, i don't even gamble.
I just see what most scammers do and predicted the obvious.

Based on your recent screenshots updated on the case, the only guys who have your telegram is the guy who send you that email and you added.



Do not even try to put me in your bullshits because i barely care how they scammed you and what they doing for you.
I tried to help you offer in exchange for cash and as it can be seen from our conversation my offer is transparent.
Everyone can see the messages i send you which include:
"anyway, if i help you get the account back will you pay me 0.1 btc?"
"after you have it not before that"
Obviously i didn't ask you for cent before i try to help you.
I was thinking to force them with strategy to pay you, but consider they already ask money for you, that's impossible and i just leaved it.

Edit: Next time when you adding scammers to your telegram, do not try to blame the people trying to help you.

If you didn't share your telegram on the forum, then the scammer is most likely the person or people you shared the info with privately on here. Please name and shame them.

This is an obvious scam.
Do not send anything, just wait Monday here on the forum, They are very active here and you will get an answer.

Yea, I never shared my telegram on the forum. I shared with some of the users on this forum.



Hey mate! Why you are telling me that bribes in Casinos is fine and you telling me to pay 1-2 BTC to that guys? Are you with them?
This is really stupid and you mate added me on Telegram and asked me even before these guys offered me to pay them lmfao

Someone is probably trying to scam you.

It usually happens when you start complaining about not receiving huge amount of money and you share your email and telegram in public. I think you will get more of these messages, you should probably move to new email and phone number.

Of course, don't send money for "account reactivation", makes no sense.

I know. I want to hear the Cloudbet, someone from there to say something about that. Since Cloudbet has only 1 contact via email for their customer service, they need to respond on that matter. How can these people make a fake email from [email protected] or [email protected], how do I know if I will talk to the write person from cloudbet anymore?!

HUGE UPDATES!
Within 24 hours I posted over 15 the biggest gamblers communities and start to sent complaints about Cloudbet. I start to receive more weird messages on my phone and email.

I received messages from the owner and admin of Cloudbet. I am not sure at this point with whom I am talking too, because I can not believe this is true.

This is 2 emails (https://imgur.com/a/eu89OAQ) I received before I start my conversations with these guys. I asked them to send me an email from corporate emails @cloudbet.com that I am talking to the right person on Telegram.

The owner of cloudbet asked me to pay 5 BTC to re-activate my account. These guys saying that I used stolen coins  

What do you think? @game-protect

SCREENSHOTS FROM TELEGRAM BETWEEN 2 OWNER AND CO-OWNER OF CLOUDBET
Telegram: @jojones2
https://imgur.com/a/QBlGz3W

Telegram: @John3214
https://imgur.com/a/3CvOiJd

Their profile: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cloudbet-154563 has be tagged from some DT, my guess is they will respond soon here if they want their trust back.

This is so bad .not only you here many players i seen complaining about cloudbet.com.same issues Terrible i thought it's Legit Casino shame on you.

What is in that last screenshot, it says "signs of prediction"? I don't quite understand this. Roulette is game of prediction, how can you exactly play roulette if you don't guess where ball will drop?

How one can defeat EV- game using system or whatever they said in that message?
I would really like to hear official explanation from cloudbet how is possible to cheat online roulette and make it EV+ game  
This is concerning.
Last time I tried to talk about their Montenegro's license they indirectly and politely said me to fuck off with questions.

I'll tag them for now, looking forward to fast response and reasonable explanation.

i contacted the OP (ginalli) to ask him few questions (of course not private) and seems like cloudbet is asking for bribe (cash under the table) to unlock his account from what he says.
correct me if i am wrong but we seen that before..
casinos locking people account to milk money from the big players, and in the end after the big noise, they always do that and milk their players.
this is classic case and not something new...
sadly the amount is big this time

I agree. There is should be some other ways to solve the real issues like that. The report doesn't make any sense. I will do whatever it takes to let everyone know that Cloudbet scamming people! 

There are a couple of things I want to mention about this report, I don't know if this report is real also.
The report prepared on Jan 20th (it has a date on it)
The report analyzes only 3 days of action (between Jan 11-14)
The report doesn't say that I cheated.
The report says that I was playing from saved bets which is the platform offers.
The report says that I played a couple different tables (which platform let you play 4 tables at the same time)
The report is saying that they will keep monitoring my games when I play BUT they don't even know my account was blocked 5 days before they prepared that report.


I will mate! Thanks!

Makes me sick every time. You should avoid betting with sites like these. They have no restrictions over the deposit but when big wins are made, the introduce all sorts of regulations. If you are following all their terms and conditions, you should go contact your local authorities and sue them.

If you have a legal issue and decide to ask gamblers, you should expect that your claim will not be enforced!

However, they have 1 million visits per month, so it looks like you can convince people to go to the bakery after being injured!

My impression is that the Askgamblers complaints service misleads victims!

What do you think?

There is a move topic option on the bottom left of the thread that you started. You can click it and then you'll be able to select which board to move and then click ok/next something similar. It's faster than contacting an admin, which I doubt he'll respond to something like this. Mod might help you though.

I am not sure how to move my thread to "scam accusation", I will contact admins, maybe they will help.

Why Cloudbet never request any documents when I deposit to my account 11 BTC. No questions! But when I won and I try to withdraw my winning! THEN there is many questions and investigations!

How is that

On https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints most of the complaints solved by Cloudbet, but ALL COMPLAINS HAS less than 1 BTC and only my 2 complaints with 38 BTC and another guy with 331 BTC can't be resolved.

I am a businessman and I play this game in many casinos for many years. But this cloudbet is cheating on people like me, and I believe that they are cheating on the casino ends as well. The casinos think that my account was active.
Only that day of this occurs I sent 11 BTC to cloudbet to gamble but now I am not receiving anything and also I accused with cheating.
I can send all the proofs and their report as well.
I hope your platform can help.
Because I believe in karma, if this cloudbet is a scam, I will spend more money then I spent on cloudbet to marketing and let the next victims of cloudbet. Because this is not right. I made some searches and advice from some friends of mine to ask your help.
They are saying that I cheated, and I am asking if anyone cheats will not send you 11BTC to gamble. My play was always the same since I opened this account in Sep 2018, and I never won until that day.
Thank you for your time.