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jr. member
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Good day all,

This message is an update regarding the complaint from Swofty. We have been following the conversations on the forums and we are aware that his case is causing concern in the community, not least about the length of time it’s taken for us to comment.

Please rest assured that we haven’t been ignoring the issue. We take all customer complaints seriously - regardless of the financial amount involved - and do our best to ensure a speedy resolution.

In this case, our fraud team has needed more time than usual as the case is quite complicated and involves several different parties and inconsistent information from the player. This is our standard procedure if there is any suspicion of fraudulent activity.

Please understand that we have no desire to stonewall - but there is no value in updates without any new information and we are not able to comment publicly on specific details regarding this case.

Curacao Egaming - with which we are licensed - will act as an arbiter here and we are bound by any ruling they make.  We encourage the player to reach out to them directly to present his case.

We intend to fully respect the decision that is reached by Curaçao Egaming, and we hope the community will too.

Cloudbet have been serving customers honestly and reliably since 2013, and although player complaints do arise from time to time, we have always had a steadfast commitment to resolving them fairly and quickly. Sometimes however, thorough investigations are necessary to ensure that we can guarantee a safe and enjoyable gaming experience for all of our players.

This can sometimes take time, and we thank you for your patience and understanding.

Thanks,

The Cloudbet team


Hey Ronnie,

Congrats on the baby!

Mind explaining why cloudbet updated their TOS and added an 8 week OR LONGER(indefinite) investigating clause allowing them to hold players funds without as much as an explanation?
Swofty is by far not the only person that you guys are trying to shaft. I can only imagine how many people you took for their money that don't know about this forum. The next social media outing should be nice for you guys!

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sr. member
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Good day all,

This message is an update regarding the complaint from Swofty. We have been following the conversations on the forums and we are aware that his case is causing concern in the community, not least about the length of time it’s taken for us to comment.

Please rest assured that we haven’t been ignoring the issue. We take all customer complaints seriously - regardless of the financial amount involved - and do our best to ensure a speedy resolution.

 

Please understand that we have no desire to stonewall - but there is no value in updates without any new information and we are not able to comment publicly on specific details regarding this case.




Yes, just keep man's bitcoin indefinitely - while you can trade on markets with it or whatever.

That's called a crime.
legendary
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Good day all,

We've posted a response to the complaint made by Swofty on their thread, which can be found here.

Thanks,

The Cloudbet team
sr. member
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Hey guys anyone know rugby betting here? Bet issue with Cloudbet. Does anyone know what total margins rugby means?
You can look at Cloudbet trust now, -125: -7 / +3 it's enough to make sure that this gambling site can't be trusted anymore. Seems like you some information has been left about this gambling site, or you just pretended not to know it.
I don't think all of us making post here do go through foregoing discussions before posting and that is why many people make post on what has been discussed before.  I believe that he did not follow the event that has happened before.
legendary
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Hey guys anyone know rugby betting here? Bet issue with Cloudbet. Does anyone know what total margins rugby means?
You can look at Cloudbet trust now, -125: -7 / +3 it's enough to make sure that this gambling site can't be trusted anymore. Seems like you some information has been left about this gambling site, or you just pretended not to know it.
legendary
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The customer swofty said he will taking the proper legal action against them since they have not paid him his winnings for an entire month and a week and a half now.
Does he know what the proper legal action is?



Do you?
legendary
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Seriously I would understand some mishaps in small amounts (less than 1 btc) because that happens all the time in any place and then fixed afterwards but for 330!! bitcoin and after 40+ days ? That is just unacceptable. Do they realize that they are killing themselves?
~snip~
I'm sure they know, they are in the business for many years and from the very beginning they understand already that reputation will make their business to operate profitably, but this latest scam accusation, seems like they are not making a timely action and I will already conclude that they might leave it open and will just watch how their business collapse.
jr. member
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Cloudbet got a scheduled maintenance February 12 2019.

They added a section 14 on there terms and conditions.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180605085245/https://www.cloudbet.com/en/terms_and_conditions

This one was the old one

And this is the new one with section 14

https://www.cloudbet.com/en/terms_and_conditions

I think they did that because of my complaint. Now I hope they respond and do what is right now.


Albert

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Complaints Process

14.5 We aim to provide you with a substantive response to your complaint as soon as practically possible and seek to resolve your complaint within eight weeks from the date we receive the complaint. Depending on the complexity of the complaint, our investigation may take longer than eight weeks to resolve. We will ensure that we write to you within eight weeks of the date we receive your complaint or dispute with either a final response or an update of the position explaining why we are not in a position to provide a final response, and when we expect to be in a position to do so.

"You are not allowed to complain in bitcointalk about us delaying payment for 8+ weeks because you agreed to our recently changed Terms and Conditions"

"We can delay your withdrawal as long as we want for whatever reason we want"

Haha! IF THERE WAS ANY DOUBT ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF SCAMBET, THEY JUST PUT A NAIL IN THEIR OWN COFFIN BY "UPDATING" THEIR TOS TO BASICALLY SAY WE WILL LOOK FOR EVERY WAY NOT TO PAY YOU YOUR WINNINGS, AND WE WILL TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS WE NEED TO DO IT. AMAZING SCUMBAGS! Smiley
newbie
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Hey guys anyone know rugby betting here? Bet issue with Cloudbet. Does anyone know what total margins rugby means?
hero member
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The customer swofty said he will taking the proper legal action against them since they have not paid him his winnings for an entire month and a week and a half now.
Does he know what the proper legal action is?

legendary
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Cloudbet got a scheduled maintenance February 12 2019.

They added a section 14 on there terms and conditions.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180605085245/https://www.cloudbet.com/en/terms_and_conditions

This one was the old one

And this is the new one with section 14

https://www.cloudbet.com/en/terms_and_conditions

I think they did that because of my complaint. Now I hope they respond and do what is right now.


Albert

Quote
Complaints Process

14.5 We aim to provide you with a substantive response to your complaint as soon as practically possible and seek to resolve your complaint within eight weeks from the date we receive the complaint. Depending on the complexity of the complaint, our investigation may take longer than eight weeks to resolve. We will ensure that we write to you within eight weeks of the date we receive your complaint or dispute with either a final response or an update of the position explaining why we are not in a position to provide a final response, and when we expect to be in a position to do so.

"You are not allowed to complain in bitcointalk about us delaying payment for 8+ weeks because you agreed to our recently changed Terms and Conditions"

"We can delay your withdrawal as long as we want for whatever reason we want"
legendary
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Seriously I would understand some mishaps in small amounts (less than 1 btc) because that happens all the time in any place and then fixed afterwards but for 330!! bitcoin and after 40+ days ? That is just unacceptable. Do they realize that they are killing themselves?

I mean it doesn't make sense, if they want to just keep the 330 bitcoin to themselves to profit they are making a huge mistake because we as the gamblers will stop (already stopped and probably never comeback no matter what) playing on cloudbet which would result with less gamblers losing money to them and would result with them not making profits from gamblers. They obviously didn't think this one through because if they did they would know operating legally and properly would yield more profits than this type of shady business.
The customer swofty said he will taking the proper legal action against them since they have not paid him his winnings for an entire month and a week and a half now. And even went as far as blocking his account from doing anymore bets. Because he was winning too much? Embarrassed
Or they dont have the available amount to make this users payout? Roll Eyes
This is what it sounds like to me.
He is giving them a week to come up with his winnings or he is going this route in forwarding it to their lawyer.
Never the less we are behind you on this one and hoping for the right conclusion in how this situation turns out.
legendary
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Seriously I would understand some mishaps in small amounts (less than 1 btc) because that happens all the time in any place and then fixed afterwards but for 330!! bitcoin and after 40+ days ? That is just unacceptable. Do they realize that they are killing themselves?

I mean it doesn't make sense, if they want to just keep the 330 bitcoin to themselves to profit they are making a huge mistake because we as the gamblers will stop (already stopped and probably never comeback no matter what) playing on cloudbet which would result with less gamblers losing money to them and would result with them not making profits from gamblers. They obviously didn't think this one through because if they did they would know operating legally and properly would yield more profits than this type of shady business.
newbie
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Reading through last pages of this thread I'm everyday more convinced that the future of sportsbetting belongs to onchain project where everything is decentralized and much more transparent.

Really sorry for that guy but trusting a third party with that huge amounts is a gamble by itself imho.

Any books/live casino (besides nitrogen) you would suggest besides cloudbet?
legendary
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Reading through last pages of this thread I'm everyday more convinced that the future of sportsbetting belongs to onchain project where everything is decentralized and much more transparent.

Really sorry for that guy but trusting a third party with that huge amounts is a gamble by itself imho.
newbie
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Cloudbet got a scheduled maintenance February 12 2019.

They added a section 14 on there terms and conditions.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180605085245/https://www.cloudbet.com/en/terms_and_conditions

This one was the old one

And this is the new one with section 14

https://www.cloudbet.com/en/terms_and_conditions

I think they did that because of my complaint. Now I hope they respond and do what is right now.


Albert
full member
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We temporarily eliminated CloudBet from our best bitcoin casinos review list due to the situation with Swofty. Will take them back as soon as they do the things right.
Hold on, Swofty, the community with you! Smiley
legendary
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It's shame that Ronnie had time to make post about their Bitcointalk game, but haven't posted anything on this or scam accusation thread. It's sad to see what's going on with one of oldest Bitcoin sportsbooks. Maybe game-protect was right about them, lol? I still hope that scam accusation will be resolved, but now it looks that Cloudbet decided to ignore it.
You have been warned many times about their Montenegro's license, but mostly, whoever mentioned it, was called troll or ignored.
Game Protect informs since 2 years about the illegal Montenegrin license here Cloudbet scam money owed?

Who was too rich to ignore it, should not have any problem to pay the price!
2 years?

According to this http://www.poslovni.hr/svijet-i-regija/ukanovicev-roak-na-internet-klaenju-godinama-vara-drzavu-302453, their license provider E-Gambling Montenegro was exposed 4 years ago.

According to this http://www.gov.me/pretraga/174352/Azurirani-podaci-o-priredivacima-za-14-09-2018.html, E-Gambling Montenegro stopped operating last year in Montenegro.

Cloudbet doesn't want to share info about their Montenegro's license while enforcing KYC how they want and to whoever they want.

You maybe have mentioned it but you can't blame some who would not take it seriously because of your trust rating.
I'm sorry but that's just my opinion and I guess that's what people are seeing as well
There is no single proof provided by gameprotect that they helped anyone. Words only. All he does is asks for money. "Free" advertising gambling sites which they have on their site listed under "scam license operators whatever".
Advertised betking until they screwed them over affiliate thing - then they started with scam accusations on their site for different things. Not someone I would trust if I were you.
Oh, yes, and all he does is trolls everyone.
legendary
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It's shame that Ronnie had time to make post about their Bitcointalk game, but haven't posted anything on this or scam accusation thread. It's sad to see what's going on with one of oldest Bitcoin sportsbooks. Maybe game-protect was right about them, lol? I still hope that scam accusation will be resolved, but now it looks that Cloudbet decided to ignore it.
You have been warned many times about their Montenegro's license, but mostly, whoever mentioned it, was called troll or ignored.
Game Protect informs since 2 years about the illegal Montenegrin license here Cloudbet scam money owed?

Who was too rich to ignore it, should not have any problem to pay the price!
You maybe have mentioned it but you can't blame some who would not take it seriously because of your trust rating.
I'm sorry but that's just my opinion and I guess that's what people are seeing as well, maybe with the recent big scam of cloudbet, they'll somehow
give time to check your scam report.


I guess this thread is not getting it's purpose, I'm afraid OP would lock this because the scams expose was already brought in here.
legendary
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Wow, over 40+ days now. No end in sight?
No because cloudbet has time to post winners in games and rounds https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49692182 but doesn't have time to resolve 43 days old withdrawal issue.

@Cloudbet what is status of second scam accusation https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-5103376 ?

No status update. Offered to provide all the docs, to prove residency in a non restricted country. My 1.7 are more or less irrelevant, it is the concept of what these scumbags are doing that's important.

That's a scumbag move holy man. Is there a way to find out which country they are operating from?

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This is what you get when you go to their linkedln page.


This is a digital marketing company.
But I have always thought cloudbet whose base of operations were from the UK.
Just from the way they are dismissive and some of the crypto casinos I have dealt in the past are headquartered there.
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