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legendary
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Everyone still getti g the run around? No progress yet.

Ronnie seems to find time to post in his contest/marketing thread but completely ignores the payout complaints that are piling up.

I guess kind of like cloudbets KYC... Ronnie only deals with the threads that benefit cloudbet.

Go figure. Lol
I don't think Ronnie is ignoring the complaints if we look at his post history we can still see him make replies on the thread from time to time. It's just that he can't do much to help since he's not a part of their investigation team to speed up the process of these complaints.

He could post frequently like before but without any update to share it's kind of unecessary to do so.
member
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Everyone still getti g the run around? No progress yet.

Ronnie seems to find time to post in his contest/marketing thread but completely ignores the payout complaints that are piling up.

I guess kind of like cloudbets KYC... Ronnie only deals with the threads that benefit cloudbet.

Go figure. Lol

He is probably in some conference and doesn't have too much time to post and reply to other issues.

Everyone still getti g the run around? No progress yet.

yep.
newbie
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Everyone still getti g the run around? No progress yet.
legendary
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the 330 btc story is picking up pace on reddit, this is not looking good for you cloudbet: https://old.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/comments/ao6txz/warning_bitcoin_sportbook_cloudbetcom_is_trying/

Reddit front page beckons.

Good. Let us now crush these scammers and all scumbags on their paylist on BitcoinTalk.

BTW Cloudbet/Fraudbet website is unreachable for me ATM...it just keeps loading and never opens up.

Fraudbet dead?

The Cloudbet website is definitely down. Page just does not open.
member
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BTW Cloudbet/Fraudbet website is unreachable for me ATM...it just keeps loading and never opens up.

Fraudbet dead?

Same here.

Yes I did followed what they needed. They paid me out last time as you can see the photo on AskGamblers. I will post it in here again. They paid me out, then when I withdraw all they hold it and needed the documents, which I gave right away. Now its been a month and 6 days to be exact since that.

https://imgur.com/a/6CTO03Z


I am the owner. And will be the only one who could access my account. Who could verify on email. So just resolve this case and lets move on.

Thank you


Albert

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the 330 btc story is picking up pace on reddit, this is not looking good for you cloudbet: https://old.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/comments/ao6txz/warning_bitcoin_sportbook_cloudbetcom_is_trying/

Reddit front page beckons.

Good. Let us now crush these scammers and all scumbags on their paylist on BitcoinTalk.

BTW Cloudbet/Fraudbet website is unreachable for me ATM...it just keeps loading and never opens up.

Fraudbet dead?

legendary
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Yea Ronnie... it’s hard enough to get lucky and win as a gambler. Starting to seem like Cloudbet players who win are becoming the real underdog in regards to getting paid by you guys  Huh  


@AGD815

Please keep in mind that Ronnie is customer services. He can only relay information that has been passed on to him from the owners/devs.

I have always found Ronnie to be a kind, polite and courteous person who deserves the same from users when they post to him.

No matter what game of selective scamming the owners of Cloudbet play, the truth is Ronnie has no say in it at all. He is a nice person so please remain calm and polite towards him, I am sure he has and will continue to relay the information between yourself and the owners of Cloudbet.

As for where this issue goes now is up to you. You approached them to find a solution, they are playing hard to get. What is your next step?

You have the support of the members here, if there is anything any of can do to help please tell us.
legendary
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@Ronnie

What on earth is going here?:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbet-not-responding-for-my-330-btc-withdrawal-5106313
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbet-is-scam-they-are-not-paying-for-winning-bets-5105084

Surely Cloudbet should do more to protect its reputation but the sheer number of allegations are rising and the seriousness of the value of BTC payout involved is alarming.

Please can these situations be resolved. I totally understand you are not the decision maker or owner but please kindly can you relay the message to the "team" . Their reputation is in tatters and if they have any desire to save it they should addresses the concerns of the users above.

Thank you
newbie
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Yes I did followed what they needed. They paid me out last time as you can see the photo on AskGamblers. I will post it in here again. They paid me out, then when I withdraw all they hold it and needed the documents, which I gave right away. Now its been a month and 6 days to be exact since that.

https://imgur.com/a/6CTO03Z


I am the owner. And will be the only one who could access my account. Who could verify on email. So just resolve this case and lets move on.

Thank you


Albert
legendary
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Meh.
Just put game-protect on ignore, your lives will be so much more easy. I've had email conversations with casino operators who have fled this forum due to the systematic bullying and trolling that game-protect engage in.

They add nothing of value to this forum nor any of the topics they participate in. They are delusional and should not be given the attention to continue with their immense shitposting. Trust me on this one Smiley.
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Almost all the long existing and the newbie of the forum knew Nitro and I believed to posted this message because of the accusation made by the user game protect which have been false and baseless accusation about gambling site for years now.
What accusatios against what casinos are false and baseless?
You can tell me because the answer to your is all written on the red trust giving to you by people like Rhavar,Stunna, Suchmoon etc.
Wait a second! You claim that I made false accusations against casinos, but you are not able to deliver proof of your claim?

Instead of delivering proof of your claim, you demand from me to deliver proof of something I never did?

Are you mentally ill?

No, I am perfectly fine and I dont think own me any proof concern what I said because you dont speak to me maturely. However, your trust issue said it all if not you wont have get another saying you have get another red trust from DT member a couple of days back(2019-02-05).
Is this red trust? "This user is not Trustworthy" 2019-02-05 owlcatz

Because a tarnished "trusted member" believes I am not trustworthy, I am not trustworthy???

So if I believe that you killed 3 people, you have to be sentenced lifetime? No wait, if a tarnished "trusted member" believes that you killed 3 people, you have to be sentenced lifetime! Cheesy

The trust of who did I breach and how?

Quote
[] Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer
What have beliefs to do with trust?

Bitcointalk has thousands of users who do not believe that I am untrustworthy and now you cry if 4 or 5 tarnished "trusted members" believe I am?

The mental illness of some people is surely limitless! Cheesy

I thought bitcointalk is related to Bitcoin and now it turns out it is also a church or what?

If someone has a belief, I highly recommed to go to a church or rename the forum to churchtalk!


You definitely have problem in terms of speech because you somehow lack doing things in a mature way and if you keep on doing this it will always lead you to trouble even when you're right.
Meanwhile,after this message i wont reply to what ever you say. With that been said, the day I dont believe what you said was the day you make accusation about bitplay despite the fact that they provide every require document to proof they are genuine.
hero member
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Almost all the long existing and the newbie of the forum knew Nitro and I believed to posted this message because of the accusation made by the user game protect which have been false and baseless accusation about gambling site for years now.
What accusatios against what casinos are false and baseless?
You can tell me because the answer to your is all written on the red trust giving to you by people like Rhavar,Stunna, Suchmoon etc.
Wait a second! You claim that I made false accusations against casinos, but you are not able to deliver proof of your claim?

Instead of delivering proof of your claim, you demand from me to deliver proof of something I never did?

Are you mentally ill?

No, I am perfectly fine and I dont think own me any proof concern what I said because you dont speak to me maturely. However, your trust issue said it all if not you wont have get another saying you have get another red trust from DT member a couple of days back(2019-02-05).
Is this red trust? "This user is not Trustworthy" 2019-02-05 owlcatz

Because a tarnished "trusted member" believes I am not trustworthy, I am not trustworthy???

So if I believe that you killed 3 people, you have to be sentenced lifetime? No wait, if a tarnished "trusted member" believes that you killed 3 people, you have to be sentenced lifetime! Cheesy

The trust of who did I breach and how?

Quote
[] Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer
What have beliefs to do with trust?

Bitcointalk has thousands of users who do not believe that I am untrustworthy and now you cry if 4 or 5 tarnished "trusted members" believe I am?

The mental illness of some people is surely limitless! Cheesy

I thought bitcointalk is related to Bitcoin and now it turns out it is also a church or what?

If someone has a belief, I highly recommed to go to a church or rename the forum to churchtalk!
newbie
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Came here because of reddit. Seems super shady.
hero member
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Almost all the long existing and the newbie of the forum knew Nitro and I believed to posted this message because of the accusation made by the user game protect which have been false and baseless accusation about gambling site for years now.
What accusatios against what casinos are false and baseless?
You can tell me because the answer to your is all written on the red trust giving to you by people like Rhavar,Stunna, Suchmoon etc.
Wait a second! You claim that I made false accusations against casinos, but you are not able to deliver proof of your claim?

Instead of delivering proof of your claim, you demand from me to deliver proof of something I never did?

Are you mentally ill?
No, I am perfectly fine and I dont think own me any proof concern what I said because you dont speak to me maturely. However, your trust issue said it all if not you wont have get another saying you have get another red trust from DT member a couple of days back(2019-02-05).
member
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the 330 btc story is picking up pace on reddit, this is not looking good for you cloudbet: https://old.reddit.com/r/sportsbook/comments/ao6txz/warning_bitcoin_sportbook_cloudbetcom_is_trying/

Reddit front page beckons.
legendary
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AGD815 - Ginelli/Antonioo's case was solved when we received a report from our providers that we didn't feel proved conclusively the use of third party software, despite our ongoing suspicions about their gameplay.
It doesn't sound like it was:

<< January 28th >> - Contacted Molly on the chat at Cloudbet.com. I told her that I contacted Casino marketing guy and Andy told me that reports are ready! Molly’s reply: «The investigation was conducted by the game provider, where an in-depth analysis was conducted. The email from Andy is our final decision on the matter, as such, I have no further information to offer. The balance on the account has been confiscated. It means that your account will stay closed and funds frozen». When I asked, «Frozen means you keep the funds?» The chat joined Steve, and he replied «The funds on the account, as they were accumulated again our terms have been removed from the account. As such, your account has a 0.00 balance and will remain closed. This is our final decision on the matter.»
Player had to open scam accusations against Cloudbet to get his money.


Regarding 330BTC scam accusation, how many people actually have access to account?
legendary
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Fraudbet has a security program / software tracking all the devices and IP addresses used, therefore it is not possible that a foreign third person could claim ownership of a certain account.

As long as players lose, the info from the security program will not be used and everything is fine. But if a player wins, the information from the security program suddenly is very important and KYC has to be enforced! Cheesy

You are pretty much describing every online casino in existance. Show me one casino which bans a player who resides in a country like USA or uses VPN to avoid these bans instantly.

All do the same thing. This KYC crap is just being used as a weapon against the players. Nobody gives a crap about where you live or where you got the funds from. All that matters is the profit for the casino.
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Bazinga442 - There have been several people from different territories contacting us via different channels to claim ownership of the account, with varying degrees of evidence provided. That's about as detailed as I can be without disclosing private information about the account in question unfortunately.

I'll post an update ASAP.

Thanks,

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

Thank you for responding Ronnie. However, are withdrawals on cloudbet not 2FA enabled, and I am assuming the OP has to confirm any withdrawals/ownership via his registered email address?

Could an impostor possibly circumvent these security measures you've put in place to steal the funds? Are these not enough to prove ownership in addition to all the documents he has sent so far?

Was there any good reason to cancel his superbowl bet and close the account? I am sure you understand why the OP is stressed.

Pay the OP his money, this does not reflect well on you at all. If there are liquidity issues, you can resolve/negotiate this with him privately, instead of dragging out what many consider a bogus investigation further, and making him feel like he's done something wrong.
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Hyp3 - I've just checked with our payment teams and your withdrawal should now have been processed, apologies for the delay.

AGD815 - Ginelli/Antonioo's case was solved when we received a report from our providers that we didn't feel proved conclusively the use of third party software, despite our ongoing suspicions about their gameplay.

As a result of the investigation we will also be removing certain functionality within the Live Roulette game in question that was central to the suspicious behaviour. Based on the feedback from Ask Gamblers we will also be raising the bar in terms of the level of proof required from our providers to enforce our rules around suspicious activity.

Swofty - I haven't responded on AG yet as I haven't received any further updates on the investigation. As soon as I get some additional information I'll respond there and here, and our support teams will be in touch directly.

Thanks,

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

Thanks for your help!
newbie
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Ronnie, thanks for responding. Please I just want to end this issue/case already. And just move on. Do something about it Ronnie like you always do. Appreciate it.

Dont keep repeating this ownership thing investigation because you know that I am the only owner. Thank you. And please give me my rightful winnings. Its been so long already.

This is on AskGamblers. This is what I said:

I am the only owner of my account. There is no one that could withdrawal my account. Because if I withdrawal, there is an Two Step Code needed that only me know. And when I withdrawal there is an email verification sent to my email.

I cant understand what you are saying about conflicting ownership. Because like I said, I have given all my informations already to you. And it has been a month since I am waiting for this issue to be resolve. I hope you understand me. I need the coin for my family. And I won every bit of coins in your website fairly. I just need to get my rightful winnings and have fun playing again in your website. Thank you

Albert

I'm sorry that my friend is causing this confusion. He wasn't trying to take ownership but I had him talk so I didn't misunderstand English. He was telling me what was being said.

So he was just trying to help and since you mention him as a problem I have told him no more I will take my. Chances with English.

Albert


And you replied on AskGamblers:

Hi Swofty,

Thanks for the additional information. Our teams are still working through the investigation and will be in direct contact with you when a conclusion has been reached.

Thanks,

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

So yeah im sure you know already. Please stop repeating it. Because you know already and you replied on it. It was on AskGamblers if you forgot.


Just solve my case/issue and we will move on. And be happy. Do something about this Ronnie. Thank you
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