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legendary
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https://bpip.org
OXBTC..com manages a maximum 8/8, just like their predecessors Zeus and Halley.

To be fair they named themselves "zero multiplied by your BTC" Grin
hero member
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Bitcore BTX
--- UPDATED LIST (5/03/2016) ---





Please read OP thoroughly before studying the list below.

Note: Use the "Find" function (Ctrl+F) on your browser and type the name of a cloudmining site you want to find from the list and research thoroughly before buying a contract from there.




Ponzi's that have already collapsed as predicted:

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bitcoincloudservices  1+2+4+5+6*+7       => 6/7 = Ponzi (* founded by known scammer  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=860400.msg9638868#msg9638868)
bitcoinminersuk.com   1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Lbtcl.com             1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitknock.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
PBmining.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Lunaminer.com         1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
coinsoncloud.eu       1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Cryptomine.io         1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
hashie.co             1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitcoinlabmining.com  1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
ltcgear               1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
hashprofit.com        1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
minethatcloud.com     1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
CoIntellect.com       1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
terabox.me            1+2+3*+4+5+6+7*    => 7*/7 = Ponzi (pictures are not at all convincing, exit strategy involves  60+ days stall tactic)
chabatmining.com      1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Ecrypto.co.in         1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ confirmed scam, they are no partners of cex.io)
GenerateBTC.com       1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
cloudminr.io          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
grmining.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
hashwar.co            1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitrush.com           1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
scrypt.cc             1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
Kryptologika          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Cryptsy MN            1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi ( + no details on fee structure) (withdrawl problems noticed!)
Coolhash.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
Bitminr.com           1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
MineProfit.com        1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
SpecialMiner.com      1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi  (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
Scryptsy.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
cloudhours.net        1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitcoinmaker.ch       1+2+3+4+6+7+8      => 7/7 = Ponzi

Likely Ponzi scams that have yet to collapse:

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coince.com            1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
fortacloud.co         1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
hashocean.com         1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
HourlyMine.com        1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
cldmine.com           1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8    => 7/7 = Ponzi
bitcoinmining.me      1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi
Skycoinlab.com        1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ organized by serial ponzi scammer: ?topic=583177.msg10298730)
btcslice.com          1+2+3+4+5+6+7      => 7/7 = Ponzi (+ pays out in reversible paypal ?)
cloudmining.website   2+3+4+5+6+7        => 6/7 = Ponzi
eobot.com             1+2+3+5+6+7        => 6/7 = Ponzi (+ possible malware/wallet stealing software)
nexusmining.com       1+2*+3+4+5+7       => 6/7 = Ponzi (Guy from Spondoolies says im wrong, but I can't score what I haven't seen and he seems to confirm they have no hardware)
minerslab.com         1+2+3+4+6+7        => 6/7 = Ponzi (+ selling hardware that doesnt exist + using purchased "legendary" account)
cloudmining.sg        1+2+4+6+7          => 5/7 = Ponzi (Founder's LinkedIn account deleted, Uses Weebly's free checkout platform)
hashcoins.com
and hashflare.io     ~1+2+3+4+7          => 5/7 = (very) suspicious (user selectable pool requires fee, dc pictures show no miners, linkedin profile doctored, hardware sales very dubious,..) (*now owned by hashflare.io)
Zeushash              1+2+3+4+5          => 5/7 = (very) suspicious
Bitminer.eu           1+2+5+6            => 4/7 = Suspicious (+ Pictures of their miners might be Photoshopped)
Miningsweden.se       1+2*+5+7           => 4/7 = Suspicious (*will remove as soon as I receive confirmation from Bitmain)

Rest:

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genesis-mining.com    1+2+5+7            => 4/7 = Probably legit.
pow88.com             1+2+5              => 3/7 = Probably legit (preliminary assessment) (Suspicious referral bonus : 1% hourly !!!)
Bit-x.com             1+4                => 2/7 = Probably legit (preliminary assessment, partnership confirmed by Bitfury)
haobtc.com            1+2                => 2/7 = Probably Legit (investment based cloudmining company => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1023187.0)
bw.com                1                  => 1/7 = Legit (1 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.msg13605117#msg13605117)
Hashnest              1                  => 1/7 = Legit (1 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878387.msg13605117#msg13605117)

Obsolete or suspended:

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AMhash                                   => 0/7 = Legit
KNCcloud              7                  => 1/7 = Legit
Cex.io                4                  => 1/7 = Legit
Cryptx PETAmine                          => 0/7 = Legit
Megamine.com          1+4                => 2/7 = Probably legit
GAWminers             1+4+5+~7           => 4/7*= Possibly/partially legit based on criteria set forth. Based on wider context: more suspicious than a nun squatting in a cucumber field




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legendary
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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
OXBTC..com manages a maximum 8/8, just like their predecessors Zeus and Halley.
legendary
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Merit: 1451
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Im never heard about it Undecided
it's trusted bitcoin cloudmining..? real hash? real hardware..? or just only pool..?


Everything looks quite transparent there, so we can assume that it is a legit project. However, as with all investments everyone should be careful.

can you share the contact of sweeden mining? or maybe the detail site..?
i m intereting to join or research about this company

it seems that you can physically visit their farm ..

Contact you can find on their website - https://www.miningsweden.se/contact/

here is review made few months ago: http://digiconomist.net/fraud-risk-assessment-mining-sweden

here is thread about that:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anyone-heard-of-or-investing-in-mining-sweden-1092882


I don't think that reviews from online blogs are to be trusted. It would be easy for any mining service to prove their resources otherwise, if they don't it's safe to assume that they're nothing more than a ponai.
legendary
Activity: 1323
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Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Im never heard about it Undecided
it's trusted bitcoin cloudmining..? real hash? real hardware..? or just only pool..?


Everything looks quite transparent there, so we can assume that it is a legit project. However, as with all investments everyone should be careful.

can you share the contact of sweeden mining? or maybe the detail site..?
i m intereting to join or research about this company

it seems that you can physically visit their farm ..

Contact you can find on their website - https://www.miningsweden.se/contact/

here is review made few months ago: http://digiconomist.net/fraud-risk-assessment-mining-sweden

here is thread about that:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anyone-heard-of-or-investing-in-mining-sweden-1092882

legendary
Activity: 1932
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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
Bitcoremining dot com. 7/7.
hero member
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Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Im never heard about it Undecided
it's trusted bitcoin cloudmining..? real hash? real hardware..? or just only pool..?


Everything looks quite transparent there, so we can assume that it is a legit project. However, as with all investments everyone should be careful.

can you share the contact of sweeden mining? or maybe the detail site..?
i m intereting to join or research about this company
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 502
Please add the newest ponzi scam to this list with Puppet ponzi risk assesment

Topmine.io

Lol they did not even worked hard for that site.

Maybe they should close down this road as we all not going to visit them ever. Grin
hero member
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all investment in any of project will give risk, so please thinking twice of what you invest. invest of what you are ready to invest, if not, better not to invest anything  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1323
Merit: 1000
Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Im never heard about it Undecided
it's trusted bitcoin cloudmining..? real hash? real hardware..? or just only pool..?


Everything looks quite transparent there, so we can assume that it is a legit project. However, as with all investments everyone should be careful.
copper member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 529
Please add the newest ponzi scam to this list with Puppet ponzi risk assesment

Topmine.io
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 501
Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Im never heard about it Undecided
it's trusted bitcoin cloudmining..? real hash? real hardware..? or just only pool..?
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0

Tommy has now sent out three emails about this.

They had a problem with their server provider for their website only, so mining was not affected.

The site is up and running again now.

full member
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Mining Sweden site is down from the last night (?)
Here is the message on Twitter http://prnt.sc/afmrt0
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Post your ann & bounty just contact me
so which cloud mining would you prefer where we get ROI in atleast 4 months?

HODL

Instant ROI.

Not instant. It needs at least an year to reach ROI.
Moreover one risk factor is also there, price shrink.

If I have one BTC I will still have one BTC tomorrow and 4 months later, 100% ROI by definition. There is no "shrink". There is no counterparty risk. There are no issues with hardware (real or fictional), difficulty, exchange rate, etc.

There is no "cloud mining" out there that would achieve ROI (assuming the poster above meant 100% ROI and not e.g. 20%) in 4 months so why bother.

buying altcoin like ETH it's more profitable at this time than you hodl your bitcoin Roll Eyes
im buying some altcoin and earning more than cloudmining  Tongue
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
so which cloud mining would you prefer where we get ROI in atleast 4 months?

HODL

Instant ROI.

Not instant. It needs at least an year to reach ROI.
Moreover one risk factor is also there, price shrink.

If I have one BTC I will still have one BTC tomorrow and 4 months later, 100% ROI by definition. There is no "shrink". There is no counterparty risk. There are no issues with hardware (real or fictional), difficulty, exchange rate, etc.

There is no "cloud mining" out there that would achieve ROI (assuming the poster above meant 100% ROI and not e.g. 20%) in 4 months so why bother.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 252
so which cloud mining would you prefer where we get ROI in atleast 4 months?

HODL

Instant ROI.

Not instant. It needs at least an year to reach ROI.
Moreover one risk factor is also there, price shrink.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
so which cloud mining would you prefer where we get ROI in atleast 4 months?

HODL

Instant ROI.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
so which cloud mining would you prefer where we get ROI in atleast 4 months?
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1737
"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
Has anyone assessed HashOcean on this scale yet? I don't see it on the list...

Ok, let's hash Hashocean, according to Puppet's original system:

1) No public mining address / no user selectable pool.

2) No endorsement from any asic vendor

3) No relevant pictures of their hardware and datacenter

4) Open ended IPO / fractional reserve mining risk

5) Referral program

6) Anonymous operators

7) No exit strategy

Refund offered 96 hours after requested, no reports of anyone successfully doing this.
Video card offered for 700 KH/s of purchases after six months. I read of failed attempt somewhere on BCT, can't find the ref atm

8 ) Bonus point for "guaranteed profit"

6/7, plus advertised ROI = 7/8 Full House probable Ponzi.

Indiana, would you be so good as to add this HashOcean to the steaming pile of crap pls.





And while I'm at it, let's do the one in my sig, BitClub Network

1) No public mining address / no user selectable pool.

They pass this one partially, with BitClub Pool , but you have no choice.

2) No endorsement from any asic vendor

punin from Bitfury acknowledges their existence as customers prone to exaggeration

3) No relevant pictures of their hardware and datacenter

Plenty of pics and videos showing their logo.

4) Open ended IPO / fractional reserve mining risk

Deffo fail on this one, by their own claims of Club 'membership' and my calculations (unrefuted) of their liabilities.

5) Referral program

HUUUUGE fail loma

6) Anonymous operators

Lots of mouthy promoters, but no principals or premises to arrest, sue or raid (the U.S. based shills will be liable to prosecution).

7) No exit strategy

Buy "your" machine and have it shipped to you = No effective exit strategy for 99% of their 'investors'.

8 ) Bonus point for "guaranteed profit"

They scrupulously avoid stating a definite ROI, using plausible reasons for self serving ends.

5/7.
Plus a discretionary 1 for the rapist.

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