COCK FIGHTING: COVID-19 health protocols violators, caught

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Quote from: dunfida on September 03, 2020, 06:43:38 PM

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Quote from: target on September 03, 2020, 12:20:37 PM

They will only worry after they get infected by the virus so as for now, enjoying is what matters.

Everyone will if they knew that they were already infected and becomes a carrier. What does it take to be a carrier? self quarantines, medication, expensive medication with the expensive hospital bills.

They haven't thought of it but they want to gamble in the midst of the pandemic.

They wouldnt regret nor mind it off first until they do get infected and when things gets messy specially on financial aspect because hospitalization is costly then this is where regrets do come out that they shouldnt have played nor visit out of the crowd just to fill out their gambling addiction.People are very hard headed even if they do know that virus is very highly contagious but still they do ignore just for them to play.
Im not saying that all are just like that but there are people who dont really care until they do get infected. Violation fees or penalties should really be set out high same as others been suggesting.

Regret is always in the end.

They will only realize that those warnings and health protocols are very much important once some of those attendees on that mass gambling event will start to feel the symptoms. Although I'm not wishing it.

But mostly in the news, the infection happens mostly in crowded areas.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on September 03, 2020, 10:56:02 PM

I support our president's initiative to fined or even send these people to jail so they will serve their lessons and people will take the President's action and orders seriously the Philippines has a very high number of infection because of the people's disobedience and lack of disciple it cannot continue or all our hospitals will be closed for lack of beds for new infected, something that the government does not want to happen.

But those people being disobedient and lack of discipline is not because of gambling, but because it is the nature of them though I agree that the government is really shouldering what is happening even though it is their fault or not. But another thing is that we can't actually stop these guys so all of this will fall to the hands of those people gambling.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on September 03, 2020, 10:56:02 PM

I support our president's initiative to fined or even send these people to jail so they will serve their lessons and people will take the President's action and orders seriously the Philippines has a very high number of infection because of the people's disobedience and lack of disciple it cannot continue or all our hospitals will be closed for lack of beds for new infected, something that the government does not want to happen.

I think it is not that they disrespect or do not want to follow the President.

Its been months since we are in this -CQ series and I think people are really itching to do things they usually do. I guess they can't just contain their urges to gamble that is why they've done that.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on September 03, 2020, 10:56:02 PM

I support our president's initiative to fined or even send these people to jail so they will serve their lessons and people will take the President's action and orders seriously the Philippines has a very high number of infection because of the people's disobedience and lack of disciple it cannot continue or all our hospitals will be closed for lack of beds for new infected, something that the government does not want to happen.

The Problem about this Guerilla type of Cock Fighting isthat even before the pandemic and Duterte steps in Malacanang this Illegal gambling is already existing.
There are Cops that tolerating this because they are being paid
just to let this operate and not being disturbed.That is the reason why These people are consistent and seems like not afraid of being Fined or Jailed
and this is reality.
and the hardest part now is the Virus in which they can accumulate getting close to other gamblers in cock scene.

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I support our president's initiative to fined or even send these people to jail so they will serve their lessons and people will take the President's action and orders seriously the Philippines has a very high number of infection because of the people's disobedience and lack of disciple it cannot continue or all our hospitals will be closed for lack of beds for new infected, something that the government does not want to happen.

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Quote from: abel1337 on September 03, 2020, 03:52:43 PM

We really can't control people in doing stuff like this, Even if it can be dangerous to their health or whether it is an illegal act in their country. We know this cockfighting wouldn't be happening if there aren't organizers that make this event. I think they are the ones who should be blamed for. I think those cockfighting gamblers are having itchy hands in betting on their cocks to fight so they can't wait. It's just there are some people who don't take this pandemic seriously and don't know the harm it can bring to them and their surroundings if they are infected. They aren't scared at all they just want to satisfy their own needs.

Well, the organizers are themselves though. The cockfighting that I am saying is widely known to our country as "tupada" or like a meetup where people would talk about meeting in a place and held their cockfighting there. So saying that the organizers wil be blamed, it is them to be blamed because it is them that organized it at the first place.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 03, 2020, 01:07:45 AM

Quote from: maydna on September 02, 2020, 07:37:38 PM

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Physical casinos are not very popular with the younger people. The older generation want to go out and interact with other people, while most of the younger people stay glued to their smartphones and laptops, and rarely interact with anyone other than machines. Now coming to cock fighting, it is something that can't be done online. This tradition is thousands of years old, and those who don't know about it should not be critical about it.

The young generation rarely interacts with others except for their friends because they are too busy with their gadget. It is not just in cockfighting, but it happens in other traditional gambling games which have a place in a local city.

It is the risk of technology growth, and if the young generation is not taught about local culture, so when they grow up, they don't know about that. Many others of local culture that has been forgetting by the young generation and that is not just about traditional gambling.

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Quote from: maydna on September 02, 2020, 07:37:38 PM

~snip~

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

People who don't believe this pandemic will see it is real once they got infect, and they will regret it because they underestimate the virus. Usually, in some city which cockfighting is popular, people will play in hidden places, but that will not safe for them if they don't apply the health protocols from the government. But it seems, people don't care about health protocols. They don't' use social distance.

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Quote from: livingfree on September 03, 2020, 05:54:32 PM

Quote from: target on September 03, 2020, 12:20:37 PM

They will only worry after they get infected by the virus so as for now, enjoying is what matters.

Everyone will if they knew that they were already infected and becomes a carrier. What does it take to be a carrier? self quarantines, medication, expensive medication with the expensive hospital bills.

They haven't thought of it but they want to gamble in the midst of the pandemic.

They wouldnt regret nor mind it off first until they do get infected and when things gets messy specially on financial aspect because hospitalization is costly then this is where regrets do come out that they shouldnt have played nor visit out of the crowd just to fill out their gambling addiction.People are very hard headed even if they do know that virus is very highly contagious but still they do ignore just for them to play.
Im not saying that all are just like that but there are people who dont really care until they do get infected. Violation fees or penalties should really be set out high same as others been suggesting.

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hmph..

Quote from: Pamadar on September 03, 2020, 01:08:21 PM

They are managing to take care of their cock even in time of this pandemic, they are more concern with it than taking care of their households, funny but those who been caught are really people who are not afraid of this virus they are more after the enjoyment
than thinking of the risk of being affected of this virus.

Haha, this is true, I see my nephew take care of his cock everyday, he doing more better than himself. I don't know what he think, and yes lot of people will do everything to make sure his cock health and always ready to fight.

Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on September 03, 2020, 04:22:42 PM

I never experienced betting on a cockfight, coz I think it is really a luck game, there is no better cock just a matter on who strikes first, I guess Huh

Yes, we can't analyzed the cock, even in the past won some fight. Here, winner will be chosen when cock owner gave up, or too much bleeding. So its very different with football bet, poker that we can make a decision with analyze and strategy.

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Quote from: target on September 03, 2020, 12:20:37 PM

They will only worry after they get infected by the virus so as for now, enjoying is what matters.

Everyone will if they knew that they were already infected and becomes a carrier. What does it take to be a carrier? self quarantines, medication, expensive medication with the expensive hospital bills.

They haven't thought of it but they want to gamble in the midst of the pandemic.

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Quote from: electronicash on September 03, 2020, 02:31:11 PM

everyone bet on this. when you stay in area far from the city, there is nothing left to do but socialize with what the people knew. the local have different things to do to pass time. people who bet on cockfighting will sure bet also on spider match.

I have watched a live cockfighting but it was not held in cockfight arena tho, but I must say that it is driven by the culture of a country, people knowing less of technology will surely love things within their area just like this. I never experienced betting on a cockfight, coz I think it is really a luck game, there is no better cock just a matter on who strikes first, I guess Huh

Quote from: electronicash on September 03, 2020, 02:31:11 PM

but there is an online betting for this, you might be interested to download their app to bet. you can search "online sabong" i'm sure you will find it.

Probably from the Philippines because of the word 'sabong' , or maybe from Spain coz they influenced Philippines too. Would love to try this even once.

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Quote from: peter0425 on September 02, 2020, 04:55:47 AM

even if they win but their Health is at risk,what if 10 of them become infected and shared with their family?is it in the governments concern and problem how to make them better?

Well, that is the worst thing to happen, you the most annoying part in that situation? Those people would be blaming the government about that, people would be scared of them so they would find a way to blame it all on the government, that is what they do. Then the government will be the one making an adjustment to those, that is the sad part. Hope they realize this before going on those "tupadas".

The problem is that you can't force people to stay inside forever. It has been almost 6 months since the lockdown came in to effect here (in India) and now people just want to go out and relax themselves even if that means that there is a higher chance of putting them at risk. For how long you want them to stay inside and refrain from entertainment? The pharma companies are saying that a vaccine may not be available for another 12 months.

I am not saying that they can't entertain themselves, but can they just follow the safety protocols? Can they just follow the law of not doing these cockfighting which is still banned? They can do anything to entertain themselves as long as they are following the protocols, They could relax, bond with their family, does it really need to be cockfighting?

We really can't control people in doing stuff like this, Even if it can be dangerous to their health or whether it is an illegal act in their country. We know this cockfighting wouldn't be happening if there aren't organizers that make this event. I think they are the ones who should be blamed for. I think those cockfighting gamblers are having itchy hands in betting on their cocks to fight so they can't wait. It's just there are some people who don't take this pandemic seriously and don't know the harm it can bring to them and their surroundings if they are infected. They aren't scared at all they just want to satisfy their own needs.

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Quote from: electronicash on September 03, 2020, 02:31:11 PM

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Quote from: masulum on September 03, 2020, 09:16:45 AM

Quote from: maydna on September 02, 2020, 07:37:38 PM

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.
-snip-

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

Cock fighting is popular only is few particular areas and not everyone knows about it too. Since cock fighting tournaments are mostly held in backward areas with no live coverage, they cannot be listed on online gambling sites. I am sure few locals may be betting offline on these fights too.

everyone bet on this. when you stay in area far from the city, there is nothing left to do but socialize with what the people knew. the local have different things to do to pass time. people who bet on cockfighting will sure bet also on spider match.

but there is an online betting for this, you might be interested to download their app to bet. you can search "online sabong" i'm sure you will find it.

Im pretty much aware of this online sabong that you do say which is way more better rather than going to the actual cockpit arena for you to see the fight but
we know the health risk if we do able to do so.So far i havent tried up that online sabong on how it do work when it comes to betting and for the payouts
yet its totally different when you are actually betting when you do watch live.I cant really believe that there were people whom do choose to still play
even on this pandemic situation. If there are rules that do prohibit crowd then people should really follow.

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Quote from: MFahad on September 03, 2020, 01:21:49 PM

Quote from: masulum on September 03, 2020, 09:16:45 AM

Quote from: maydna on September 02, 2020, 07:37:38 PM

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.
-snip-

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

Cock fighting is popular only is few particular areas and not everyone knows about it too. Since cock fighting tournaments are mostly held in backward areas with no live coverage, they cannot be listed on online gambling sites. I am sure few locals may be betting offline on these fights too.

everyone bet on this. when you stay in area far from the city, there is nothing left to do but socialize with what the people knew. the local have different things to do to pass time. people who bet on cockfighting will sure bet also on spider match.

but there is an online betting for this, you might be interested to download their app to bet. you can search "online sabong" i'm sure you will find it.

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Quote from: masulum on September 03, 2020, 09:16:45 AM

Quote from: maydna on September 02, 2020, 07:37:38 PM

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.
-snip-

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

Cock fighting is popular only is few particular areas and not everyone knows about it too. Since cock fighting tournaments are mostly held in backward areas with no live coverage, they cannot be listed on online gambling sites. I am sure few locals may be betting offline on these fights too.

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Quote from: masulum on September 03, 2020, 09:16:45 AM

Quote from: maydna on September 02, 2020, 07:37:38 PM

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.
-snip-

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

The enjoyment is different and most of those people who gamble from this types of betting are also people who likes having their own fighting cock.
They are managing to take care of their cock even in time of this pandemic, they are more concern with it than taking care of their households, funny but those who been caught are really people who are not afraid of this virus they are more after the enjoyment
than thinking of the risk of being affected of this virus.

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Families below te working class live everyday like it's their last so having an extra money of about $6 can already take them to places like betting on Tupada, buy a long neck brandy to enjoy worry free life. If they double the $6 after betting, the more they enjoy the night maybe wampipti shabu too. They will only worry after they get infected by the virus so as for now, enjoying is what matters.

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As far as I know, they are illegal if people will not be doing that on a licensed cockpit,......

No, you can't apply that rules in the pandemic, not only cock fighting is not allowed but all sort of gambling as it gathers masses that would be prone to passing the virus among the people. So even if you do in a legal venue but the act itself is prohibited, you are still doing an illegal activity.

I agree but there are those people that do meetups(tupada) to cockfight in some places here.

Tupada is illegal and the fact that we are still in a pandemic means that it will be more of a hefty payment. I don't know what's going on with them since they are afraid of the virus but not afraid to do these meetups(tupadas) with other people that might carry the virus.

Adrenaline rush is the reason why they don't care if they are doing illegal. I mean, they all know that they might get caught so automatically they'll have their adrenaline rushing through their bodies while they are conducting their cock fighting scenario. About the COVID-19, I think they are just too confident that they will not get infected by the disease because there are no active case here in our baranggay (who knows).

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hmph..

Quote from: maydna on September 02, 2020, 07:37:38 PM

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.
-snip-

Different countries have different mindsets, here it doesn't matter old or young, only a few people believe in this pandemic, most of them think that Coronavirus is nothing. So that most of them are still doing cockfighting in hidden places. Apart from that, online betting with Cockfighting is very different, they cannot play this kind of bet online. To this day, I have never seen any online cockfighting bet found (CMIIW).

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Quote from: peter0425 on September 02, 2020, 04:55:47 AM

even if they win but their Health is at risk,what if 10 of them become infected and shared with their family?is it in the governments concern and problem how to make them better?

Well, that is the worst thing to happen, you the most annoying part in that situation? Those people would be blaming the government about that, people would be scared of them so they would find a way to blame it all on the government, that is what they do. Then the government will be the one making an adjustment to those, that is the sad part. Hope they realize this before going on those "tupadas".

The problem is that you can't force people to stay inside forever. It has been almost 6 months since the lockdown came in to effect here (in India) and now people just want to go out and relax themselves even if that means that there is a higher chance of putting them at risk. For how long you want them to stay inside and refrain from entertainment? The pharma companies are saying that a vaccine may not be available for another 12 months.

I am not saying that they can't entertain themselves, but can they just follow the safety protocols? Can they just follow the law of not doing these cockfighting which is still banned? They can do anything to entertain themselves as long as they are following the protocols, They could relax, bond with their family, does it really need to be cockfighting?

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