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What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?
No,it is not. As you have said, they are just gambling because of their financial needs or personal reasons, it means that they are willing to risk their health because for them, it is worth it especially if they won. But as we can see, because they disregard the risk, and even the law, they need to face the consequences of losing more money by paying their fine.
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Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.

Most of the people here are still not aware of technology. They may have gadgets but they still don't know how to use it properly, all they know is Facebook (lol). Even if they do know the online sabong, the internet connection here is very poor that is why it is not really recommended. Also, I think that they are more thrilled when they are playing cock fighting actually, because they'll be able to know if their cocks are good or no after all the breeding they've done in a period of time preparing for the fight.

Are you suggesting that the fighting is a way they determine whether their cocks are good or not?
Well, it depends on what you mean by "good". That shouldn't be a good way to determine whether chicken or other animals are good or not. I believe in an ideal/good world, where good humans rule over animals, they wouldn't be fighting each other.  They will live together in peace, harmony, good health, happiness etc
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hmph..
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I think if they know about online gambling games, they will try to play from their home so that they can prevent the infection, and they don't have to worry about the virus.


even they are no a online gambling, some of them will not take a part for this kind of gambling. Because they are thinking about their hobbies to gambling face to face with other players. We are can't stop them take the risk of their health and life. Another reason, they may still play in traditional gambling is they are doesn't interest in online gambling.
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So it is worth it? Hell no, they should have save and keep that money because we really don't know how long this pandemic will last. And it just shows that gamblers are really bad in making decisions.

Hope these gamblers could hear you so they would realize what they are doing. People are doing what they wanted and that is the same as these people betting on cockfighting. New cases had been reported in our province so I think it would really hit them to stop what they are doing. I warned my friend about going in one today and I don't know if they continued that.

Yeah, and this pandemic really brings the best (and worst) for gamblers, for some who love to go to traditional landbase casino's have refrain, like me, helping me to at least save some, while for those like this illegal cockfighting, it continue to grow even when we are in the pandemic, risking their life on the line. And it might be too late for them before they realized it.
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Cockfighting as a traditional gambling game, still be favorite the gamblers, and in this pandemic, many of them start to play that in a secret place, especially in a house that doesn't use anymore. Many of them don't care about the Covid-19 because they don't wear a mask in a crowd, they don't use social distancing, and who knows, they don't carry hand sanitizer too. It happens in many countries because people tend not to follow the rule when they are in public areas.

I think if they know about online gambling games, they will try to play from their home so that they can prevent the infection, and they don't have to worry about the virus.

It is not easy to remind people who play traditional gambling games in this pandemic because that is what they did in their free time, especially for people who live in a small town.
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I happens to have some friends who are very much into cock fighting it's a small time back yard cockfighting which is very popular in our place, usually done in a place only bettors and cock owners knows, and they told me that they cannot stop the urge to watch and bet on this cock fighting, they even go to the point that they are making a loan just to bet, their alibi to bet in this pandemic is that they are wearing masks but they did not practice social distancing which is very hard in this kind of gambling.   
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Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?
There are many violators and not abiding the law as I’ve watched the news. Some of them are finding a ways on how to earn money by going there on cockfighting even there's a risks of this covid19. Also some intent just a pure of gambling that can't even passed days off to gamble. They must took a serious warning for those who are into betting of this kind of gambling so actually not worth it to risks your health and also for those people that this is their way of living to sustain their financial needs for their family.
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People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

The penalty is not enough to instill fear to these people to follow, if more and more cases of this will happen, maybe it's time for them to revisit the rules and put more penalty so it will ensure that cases like this will be minimize, of course no law could fully eradicate this kind of behavior as gambling addiction will make gamblers find a way to gamble, no matter what.
As i said earlier this is a must thing because people would just simply ignore since they do know that they can pay out the fines or penalty unlike if they do set out
bigger ones which majority cant able to pay-off then that would surely make some doubts on proceeding if they would play or not.

It's not only the monetary penalty that they should look into, I think isn't like a real penalty, but just a bail because once you violate the law, you will have to serve a jail time for that, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Agree if they are poor they cannot afford to maintain a cock since the maintenance and conditioning is so expensive also imagine the bets when you are playing in the arena or anywhere for sure you will not placed any small amount on your bets.

And people are just hard headed to obey the protocols and social status is not an excuse here they should be penalize and put behind the bars to serve as a warning to others who still doing this.
It would really serve as a warning and it should really be on higher amount so that no one will really tend to oppose nor violate.This is for their own good and also as a whole because

it will really stop the spread of corona virus knowing that these venues are really very crowded which is really a high potential of such spreading infection.

People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

The penalty is not enough to instill fear to these people to follow, if more and more cases of this will happen, maybe it's time for them to revisit the rules and put more penalty so it will ensure that cases like this will be minimize, of course no law could fully eradicate this kind of behavior as gambling addiction will make gamblers find a way to gamble, no matter what.
As i said earlier this is a must thing because people would just simply ignore since they do know that they can pay out the fines or penalty unlike if they do set out
bigger ones which majority cant able to pay-off then that would surely make some doubts on proceeding if they would play or not.
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Hope these gamblers could hear you so they would realize what they are doing. People are doing what they wanted and that is the same as these people betting on cockfighting. New cases had been reported in our province so I think it would really hit them to stop what they are doing. I warned my friend about going in one today and I don't know if they continued that.
But looking at their attitude?surely they are far different from what he is mentioning,Keeping their Money must be the thing they must do but instead gambling is what goes in their mind instead.
we all know that we are Bored because of lockdown and quarantine but the government is only here to help us ,and saving the country from spreading of this Virus.

Well, not all of these people are thinking of saving their money. Most of them are not financially illiterate and I know that they don't care whether they are caught or lost a lot of money from betting on cockfighting, the most important thing for them is just to bet and have fun. I asked my friend and they said that they didn't continue because of the new cases announced yesterday. That just means the government became strict or they are scared of the virus.

I hope it is the latter.
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People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

The penalty is not enough to instill fear to these people to follow, if more and more cases of this will happen, maybe it's time for them to revisit the rules and put more penalty so it will ensure that cases like this will be minimize, of course no law could fully eradicate this kind of behavior as gambling addiction will make gamblers find a way to gamble, no matter what.
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Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.

I don't think that these don't have any money at all as they can afford to bet on their cocks and mind you, taking care a couple of fighting cocks is costly so i think they have the money. I may agree that these guys are compulsive gamblers, they can't wait for the cockfighting arena to be open again or they are just a plain hard-headed individuals that don't think that what they are doing is putting the health of their families in jeopardy.

Will this illegal cockfighting in quarantine period stops? I don't think so, they are just too many here in our country.
They arent poor and as you said this i somehow a very costly kind of gambling yet you would need to maintain up your cock to be on its best condition plus having big bets.

People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

Agree if they are poor they cannot afford to maintain a cock since the maintenance and conditioning is so expensive also imagine the bets when you are playing in the arena or anywhere for sure you will not placed any small amount on your bets.

And people are just hard headed to obey the protocols and social status is not an excuse here they should be penalize and put behind the bars to serve as a warning to others who still doing this.
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Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.

I don't think that these don't have any money at all as they can afford to bet on their cocks and mind you, taking care a couple of fighting cocks is costly so i think they have the money. I may agree that these guys are compulsive gamblers, they can't wait for the cockfighting arena to be open again or they are just a plain hard-headed individuals that don't think that what they are doing is putting the health of their families in jeopardy.

Will this illegal cockfighting in quarantine period stops? I don't think so, they are just too many here in our country.
Come to think that even on normal days where a certain cockpit arena does have an event then the venue had been flocked by lots of cars do parking outside and those arent owned by some fans or bystanders but rather those are owned by those cock fight gamblers instead.

They arent poor and as you said this i somehow a very costly kind of gambling yet you would need to maintain up your cock to be on its best condition plus having big bets.

People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.
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Even if they are interested in gambling, why not online gambling with a fixed capital that they could afford to lose (though no money is affordable enough to be lost during these tough times).

These people or at least most of them does not have any idea how to gamble online. It requires a little knowledge about computer and internet to gamble online, most of them just follow the traditional way of gambling and that is gambling live watching the game in the venue, and you are right, these people won't learn.
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Not just their health, they also risked their money by doing this and I think that any person who's in complete senses would never gamble during these times when we already know the situation and also understand the value of money currently in our lives. Now, after paying $600 (if they manage it), do you believe that the caught people will be able to earn it back so easily and pursue their families? I don't think it's that easy. Even if they are interested in gambling, why not online gambling with a fixed capital that they could afford to lose (though no money is affordable enough to be lost during these tough times).
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Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.

I don't think that these don't have any money at all as they can afford to bet on their cocks and mind you, taking care a couple of fighting cocks is costly so i think they have the money. I may agree that these guys are compulsive gamblers, they can't wait for the cockfighting arena to be open again or they are just a plain hard-headed individuals that don't think that what they are doing is putting the health of their families in jeopardy.

Will this illegal cockfighting in quarantine period stops? I don't think so, they are just too many here in our country.
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Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited.
Isn't it "Modifed" rather than Mandatory? Well not quite sure though.
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What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?
Don't 'bout you guys, but I really doubt that such reason was their intent, as when winning on that sort of game isn't hundred percent guaranteed  Undecided. Or maybe their confidence was that immeasurable for 'em to even go such length Huh But yeah, who knows?

Even Cock Fighting could be online now too! Why are people behaving like there's no pandemic. The procedure is quite easy, there should be a responsible management wherein, only the owner of the Cocks needs to be present, set up a good angle for the cameras and then live broadcast it in any platform they like. But since it is a province, I think the hindrance is the accessibility of the people to search for good platforms and to use it well. Maybe, to solve that issue, they need first to learn how online gambling works.
Most of the people here are still not aware of technology. They may have gadgets but they still don't know how to use it properly, all they know is Facebook (lol). Even if they do know the online sabong, the internet connection here is very poor that is why it is not really recommended. Also, I think that they are more thrilled when they are playing cock fighting actually, because they'll be able to know if their cocks are good or no after all the breeding they've done in a period of time preparing for the fight.
Man, that was a great idea. It's just pity that it is not yet possible for them to do it right now  Sad.
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Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.
They just recieve their Financial support from the government and then itching on gambling so since they got the money already they use it to bet. This is the kind of mentality that people has. Not only betting on cockfight but also to playing cards which is vert know in our olace as tong its.

Most of these people complains a lot during lockdown because they had nothing to eat a d just only depending on the government support from the basic commodities given to them. But this is not regular and only a few times that it happens. However, when receiving financial suppory most of them tend to bet and are also complaining that the government financial support should have an increase beecause it is not enough to feed their family but literally goes to gambling.Super duper dumbest mindset ever.
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So it is worth it? Hell no, they should have save and keep that money because we really don't know how long this pandemic will last. And it just shows that gamblers are really bad in making decisions.

Hope these gamblers could hear you so they would realize what they are doing. People are doing what they wanted and that is the same as these people betting on cockfighting. New cases had been reported in our province so I think it would really hit them to stop what they are doing. I warned my friend about going in one today and I don't know if they continued that.
But looking at their attitude?surely they are far different from what he is mentioning,Keeping their Money must be the thing they must do but instead gambling is what goes in their mind instead.
we all know that we are Bored because of lockdown and quarantine but the government is only here to help us ,and saving the country from spreading of this Virus.
Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.
How i wish mentality of People will change and will prior what needs to be,I also love to gamble but not to the extent that even the money
 for my family to feed will be needing to Bet for a chance of gaining more.
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Most of these people are in the poor sector, without money and food to eat, and the stress being bored all day due to the quarantine protocols. People find ways to entertain themselves, only satisfying their cravings to wager their last cash only to enjoy. Those kinds of people are compulsive gamblers.
You are bored but has no Food in your table to eat but you will entertain and risk the last money in your pocket?

This is a Pure BS mate,and i will never give consent in this kind of behavior.

Why not instead of gambling use the last money they have to at least try to make Small business ,Like selling some cheap foods so
they will earn at least than losing the Money in gambling as we know that one needs to lose for another to win.
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