COCK FIGHTING: COVID-19 health protocols violators, caught - page 2.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 29, 2020, 11:33:04 PM

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What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

When people doesn't have any money anymore or at least they want more money, they will rather use it for gambling than using it in a good way like putting a small business or the like.

My thoughts about this?? F*ck them.. Let them do what they want to do. They aren't kids anymore that hasn't have minds to use. If they want to risk their health and choose to gamble then let them do it. The problem right now with our countrymen is that they don't know how to cooperate with the government and they will rant online if they see something wrong.

Risking your health for the small profits isn't worth it and its already obvious. Possible reasons why they did this is that they are bored possibly or they want to earn money thru gambling so that they have money to use for their every day lives.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on September 02, 2020, 03:37:25 PM

AFAIK MGCQ is a Filipino measure. And 600$ is a huge fine in a poor country. So unfortunately I think Duterte is just still acting like what he is, a dictator. Embarrassed

$600 is such a huge amount but it's not about the president being a dictator or not. But it's all about how people responded on the rules set by the government during this pandemic. Settling the political debate, it's the people having no discipline in this hard time.

Quote from: peter0425 on September 03, 2020, 12:38:01 AM

We don't need to be a Fan of the President but we need to be aware of the Virus and what the government is doing to help save us all.
This is not politics but purely Humanities.
There are thousand dying and almost hundred everyday so people must obey what the authorities are saying now.
Let us not argue or do unnecessary because in the end?it is us who will benefits from this.

This is right. Not about politics but it's the people who are careless in this pandemic. While the majority are trying to keep ourselves in our homes to avoid the spread. Meanwhile these people don't care about the spread and being a potential virus carrier.

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Quote from: Questat on September 02, 2020, 03:58:37 AM

I think it's not right to assume that they are gambling for their financial needs as it's already proven that majority of the gamblers are losers, so gambling is indeed not a good way to make money. They aren't gambling to make a living, they are gambling to have fun, that's the main reason.

This is because their accompanying with the same people at their places who loves cock fighting even though it's not recommended to watch those two innocent creatures fighting with each other just because someone wants to have some entertainment. This is not the right way to have fun, You know? their fighting for death unlike in the boing where referees can stop the fight whenever the other fighter is in dangerous situation. In cock fighting one cock should be dead before the match will end.

Oh, the "cock fighting entertainment" is really a fight to death thing? Really shocking. ..And the government even allow this to happen.
Not just the country though, I have seen similar battle (involving human and cow) years ago where I live. I'm not sure if it's fight to death battle, still not a thing to encourage or allow.

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Quote from: maydna on September 02, 2020, 07:37:38 PM

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.

Physical casinos are not very popular with the younger people. The older generation want to go out and interact with other people, while most of the younger people stay glued to their smartphones and laptops, and rarely interact with anyone other than machines. Now coming to cock fighting, it is something that can't be done online. This tradition is thousands of years old, and those who don't know about it should not be critical about it.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on September 02, 2020, 03:37:25 PM

AFAIK MGCQ is a Filipino measure. And 600$ is a huge fine in a poor country. So unfortunately I think Duterte is just still acting like what he is, a dictator. Embarrassed

I'm not a big fan of Duterte but if you check the number of CoVid infected the numbers is not going down, it never went down and as of this writing it is going 300k and still growing, the government should impose this or the hospitals will not be able to keep up anymore our health sectors are having too much and they are working straight 16 hours daily.

We don't need to be a Fan of the President but we need to be aware of the Virus and what the government is doing to help save us all.
This is not politics but purely Humanities.
There are thousand dying and almost hundred everyday so people must obey what the authorities are saying now.
Let us not argue or do unnecessary because in the end?it is us who will benefits from this.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on September 02, 2020, 03:37:25 PM

AFAIK MGCQ is a Filipino measure. And 600$ is a huge fine in a poor country. So unfortunately I think Duterte is just still acting like what he is, a dictator. Embarrassed

I'm not a big fan of Duterte but if you check the number of CoVid infected the numbers is not going down, it never went down and as of this writing it is going 300k and still growing, the government should impose this or the hospitals will not be able to keep up anymore our health sectors are having too much and they are working straight 16 hours daily.

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Quote from: maydna on September 01, 2020, 09:07:56 PM

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even they are no a online gambling, some of them will not take a part for this kind of gambling. Because they are thinking about their hobbies to gambling face to face with other players. We are can't stop them take the risk of their health and life. Another reason, they may still play in traditional gambling is they are doesn't interest in online gambling.

But for the young generation 25 years old above which know about online gambling, they will choose online gambling than offline gambling because they can play anywhere they want. They don't want to risk their health and lives to just playing gambling, and they will take care of their health by playing from home. We can't stop them, but I am sure they will have awareness if the virus still out there and risk their lives.

Not all countries allow traditional gambling to reopen because of the case of the infection still at high. The government won't take a risk by reopening the crowded place without applying the health protocols.

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In gambling, it is not completely based on earning money and these people are probably just tired of the quarantine that has been implemented so far and basically everyone needs entertainment. I personally strongly oppose going out of the house during this pandemic because it is still very risky and dangerous, and problems like this are basically about patience and awareness. Not only about violations regarding cockfighting gambling during the pandemic, because there are still many other activities that are desperate to do until they are caught and subject to sanctions or punishment, problems like this have occurred a lot and they are just impatient because they are bored and can't wait.

well, I also see that several large countries have implemented regulations that if they leave the house and carry out activities outside the home during a pandemic like this they will get sanctions and fines, we should be able to imitate how Japan can eradicate this virus quickly because its citizens are obedient against existing regulations so that the spread of covid is quickly over.

Though its good to follow what japan do but unfortunately the other citizens on third world country cannot follow it due to financial reason some other strive to get money for daily living and it became worst when pandemic hit since many cannot work and they cannot provide food for their family that's why even if its risky many will go out just to find money and this is sad reality here.

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In gambling, it is not completely based on earning money and these people are probably just tired of the quarantine that has been implemented so far and basically everyone needs entertainment. I personally strongly oppose going out of the house during this pandemic because it is still very risky and dangerous, and problems like this are basically about patience and awareness. Not only about violations regarding cockfighting gambling during the pandemic, because there are still many other activities that are desperate to do until they are caught and subject to sanctions or punishment, problems like this have occurred a lot and they are just impatient because they are bored and can't wait.

well, I also see that several large countries have implemented regulations that if they leave the house and carry out activities outside the home during a pandemic like this they will get sanctions and fines, we should be able to imitate how Japan can eradicate this virus quickly because its citizens are obedient against existing regulations so that the spread of covid is quickly over.

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In gambling, it is not completely based on earning money and these people are probably just tired of the quarantine that has been implemented so far and basically everyone needs entertainment.

Some of those are after with entertainment, knowing that the country especially those from remote areas are very active
with this kind of gambling activities.

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I personally strongly oppose going out of the house during this pandemic because it is still very risky and dangerous, and problems like this are basically about patience and awareness.

They are not just putting themselves to danger but also those people who lives with them, we know how dangerous this virus and how easy it can be trnferred.

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Not only about violations regarding cockfighting gambling during the pandemic, because there are still many other activities that are desperate to do until they are caught and subject to sanctions or punishment, problems like this have occurred a lot and they are just impatient because they are bored and can't wait.

There are many people who are not believing until they'll find themselves being infected, the virus is just around and
leaving your house to do nothing shouldn't be tolerable.

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People who cant just understand these health protocols or restrictions neither they are poor or rich then they are really need to be penalized yet violation is always be a violation and theres no exception on that.

The penalty is not enough to instill fear to these people to follow, if more and more cases of this will happen, maybe it's time for them to revisit the rules and put more penalty so it will ensure that cases like this will be minimize, of course no law could fully eradicate this kind of behavior as gambling addiction will make gamblers find a way to gamble, no matter what.

As i said earlier this is a must thing because people would just simply ignore since they do know that they can pay out the fines or penalty unlike if they do set out
bigger ones which majority cant able to pay-off then that would surely make some doubts on proceeding if they would play or not.

It's not only the monetary penalty that they should look into, I think isn't like a real penalty, but just a bail because once you violate the law, you will have to serve a jail time for that, correct me if I'm wrong.

You arent wrong into that though but anything that you would pay for would really be just considered to be a penalty.It might really be not too a burden for some since they do had money but it would be still a good
way on stopping these kind of activities that really opposes on what had been restrict on.

If they do saw that monetary way of penalization doesnt work then thats the time they would apply on getting jailed for a certain duration and we do know that people are really scared off into this thing
which they would possibly follow if this one would be applied.

All decisions will vary on the situation if they cant able to control it out then they might be ending into that solution.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 29, 2020, 11:33:04 PM

Here in our province, even though we're under on what our Government so called "MGCQ" or Mandatory General Community Quarantine, any form of gambling is still prohibited. But yesterday, many people has been caught betting on cock fighting on an actual fight here in our province.

I don't know their true intent but for me, it's not even worth it to violate the rule and risk your money on cock fighting just to increase your financial needs. I've heard that the caught violators will going to pay PHP36,000 or around $600.

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

AFAIK MGCQ is a Filipino measure. And 600$ is a huge fine in a poor country. So unfortunately I think Duterte is just still acting like what he is, a dictator. Embarrassed

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Quote from: Questat on September 02, 2020, 03:58:37 AM

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 29, 2020, 11:33:04 PM

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

No,it is not. As you have said, they are just gambling because of their financial needs or personal reasons, it means that they are willing to risk their health because for them, it is worth it especially if they won. But as we can see, because they disregard the risk, and even the law, they need to face the consequences of losing more money by paying their fine.

I think it's not right to assume that they are gambling for their financial needs as it's already proven that majority of the gamblers are losers, so gambling is indeed not a good way to make money. They aren't gambling to make a living, they are gambling to have fun, that's the main reason.

I understand this however why they need to gamble when they know that this countries is now in crisis because of the virus they need to also protect their self and family and not only thinking by it self to have fun. There are time that they can do that but not right now since the problem can be worsen if one of them became infected.

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Quote from: Janation on September 02, 2020, 05:30:36 AM

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In general they are not really seeking support from gambling, instead, they are just spending money.
What's worse to know is that our government made an effort to give financial support to the people, and yet some of them are just spending it in gambling.

So true, that is why it is annoying.

I don't understand that they are still wasting their money being spent on taking care of their roosters and at the end of the day it will end up being dead handing them to their opponents. While they could feed it to other people that are having a hard time finding a way to feed their families and even themselves. They really need to be taught about financial literacy.

Some people are dumb when it comes to money, they always think that the government will support them for lifetime. Those money came from the taxes which means it came from the people's hardwork while the other people who aren't really working hard are having a full support during pandemic which is kinda unfair.

Yes, it is our right to speakand voice out to the government our needs but sometimes it's nonsense because of this kind of people who spent money to gambling. They should filter out those people who aren't spending the money to necessities.

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Quote from: Janation on September 02, 2020, 05:30:36 AM

Quote from: Japinat on September 01, 2020, 05:11:16 AM

In general they are not really seeking support from gambling, instead, they are just spending money.
What's worse to know is that our government made an effort to give financial support to the people, and yet some of them are just spending it in gambling.

So true, that is why it is annoying.

I don't understand that they are still wasting their money being spent on taking care of their roosters and at the end of the day it will end up being dead handing them to their opponents. While they could feed it to other people that are having a hard time finding a way to feed their families and even themselves. They really need to be taught about financial literacy.

These people are not stoppable even their health is at stake they cannot force to stop just to gamble. This is happening in our country wasting their money even their family has no food to eat in their table. They have the guts to complain in the government on taking action of this pandemic yet in terms of providing financial to the family is their second priority because their first focus is on betting their money in a cock fight.

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Quote from: peter0425 on September 02, 2020, 04:55:47 AM

even if they win but their Health is at risk,what if 10 of them become infected and shared with their family?is it in the governments concern and problem how to make them better?

Well, that is the worst thing to happen, you the most annoying part in that situation? Those people would be blaming the government about that, people would be scared of them so they would find a way to blame it all on the government, that is what they do. Then the government will be the one making an adjustment to those, that is the sad part. Hope they realize this before going on those "tupadas".

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Quote from: Japinat on September 01, 2020, 05:11:16 AM

In general they are not really seeking support from gambling, instead, they are just spending money.
What's worse to know is that our government made an effort to give financial support to the people, and yet some of them are just spending it in gambling.

So true, that is why it is annoying.

I don't understand that they are still wasting their money being spent on taking care of their roosters and at the end of the day it will end up being dead handing them to their opponents. While they could feed it to other people that are having a hard time finding a way to feed their families and even themselves. They really need to be taught about financial literacy.

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Quote from: hidden jutsu on September 02, 2020, 03:41:12 AM

Quote from: AicecreaME on August 29, 2020, 11:33:04 PM

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

No,it is not. As you have said, they are just gambling because of their financial needs or personal reasons, it means that they are willing to risk their health because for them, it is worth it especially if they won. But as we can see, because they disregard the risk, and even the law, they need to face the consequences of losing more money by paying their fine.

even if they win but their Health is at risk,what if 10 of them become infected and shared with their family?is it in the governments concern and problem how to make them better?
because they will infect even more because of their stupidity?
social distancing must be implemented to prevent this kind of spread and if people continues to do such for sure the government will back the Lock down and tighten the laws that will make us more bored and awaits again.

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Quote from: Questat on September 02, 2020, 03:58:37 AM

I think it's not right to assume that they are gambling for their financial needs as it's already proven that majority of the gamblers are losers, so gambling is indeed not a good way to make money. They aren't gambling to make a living, they are gambling to have fun, that's the main reason.

This is because their accompanying with the same people at their places who loves cock fighting even though it's not recommended to watch those two innocent creatures fighting with each other just because someone wants to have some entertainment. This is not the right way to have fun, You know? their fighting for death unlike in the boing where referees can stop the fight whenever the other fighter is in dangerous situation. In cock fighting one cock should be dead before the match will end.

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Quote from: hidden jutsu on September 02, 2020, 03:41:12 AM

Quote from: AicecreaME on August 29, 2020, 11:33:04 PM

What's your thoughts about this? Is it worth to risk your health just to be able to win money by not abiding the law?

No,it is not. As you have said, they are just gambling because of their financial needs or personal reasons, it means that they are willing to risk their health because for them, it is worth it especially if they won. But as we can see, because they disregard the risk, and even the law, they need to face the consequences of losing more money by paying their fine.

I think it's not right to assume that they are gambling for their financial needs as it's already proven that majority of the gamblers are losers, so gambling is indeed not a good way to make money. They aren't gambling to make a living, they are gambling to have fun, that's the main reason.

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