Topic: Cockfighting? - page 18. (Read 3933 times)

Chickens, roosters are an option of animals that are worthy to eat, of course, but I prefer to see things from the point of view that it is something a very voracious attraction of how they can make animals suffer, and it is Something that I can't agree with, because first it makes me feel sorry, and secondly, is there someone who likes to see that? I don't understand such morbidity, but each person in the world has very different tastes, so what I think is that Gauls should not be legal, because they are domestic or house animals to raise young or something like that, that is what I see, it's like putting cats to fight, dogs to fight to the death, and it's a very violent act, and it's very good for Making bets , but too cruel in my opinion.

Not all animals that are kept and bred are only intended for consumption, such as cows and so on. However, there are animals that are kept as decorations like fish, whose selling value can even be up to hundreds of dollars or even more. And there are also animals that are deliberately kept as fighting animals, such as fighting cocks/Bangkok chickens, which are the same as ornamental animals that can provide a very high selling value of up to hundreds of dollars or even more if the chicken has succeeded in winning several cockfighting competitions. So as long as "cockfighting" continues to be preserved and has many fans, then the selling price of the chicken will also be higher. So keeping fighting cocks for people who understand and cultivate them is very promising.

 -I don't understand such morbidity, but each person in the world has very different tastes, so what I think is that Gauls should not be legal, because they are domestic or house animals to raise young or something like that, that is what I see, it's like putting cats to fight, dogs to fight to the death, and it's a very violent act, and it's very good for Making bets , but too cruel in my opinion.

Well, I agree with you though, but I must mention that all this animals you mentioned that are being kept for decoration for for fighting only have that liberty due to the country they are or live in, for a country like mine, every edible animal is meat, what ever type of fish or cock and what ever, they are all meat as long as they are edible, even rams that are sometimes engaged in a fight competition during festive periods in some part of the country, most especially in remote areas, still end up being killed and made meat for consumption at the end of the day, regardless of whether the ram was able to beat other rams or not.

Anyways, like I think I've stated on this thread before, the world consist of people with diverse believes and cultures, we see and believe in things differently, so its very understandable to know that some countries of the world do have such regards for animals believed to be good in fighting.

Not all animals that are kept and bred are only intended for consumption, such as cows and so on. However, there are animals that are kept as decorations like fish, whose selling value can even be up to hundreds of dollars or even more. And there are also animals that are deliberately kept as fighting animals, such as fighting cocks/Bangkok chickens, which are the same as ornamental animals that can provide a very high selling value of up to hundreds of dollars or even more if the chicken has succeeded in winning several cockfighting competitions. So as long as "cockfighting" continues to be preserved and has many fans, then the selling price of the chicken will also be higher. So keeping fighting cocks for people who understand and cultivate them is very promising.

Not really a waste of time to take care of any animal, it is a problem of why are you taking care of them. It is like if you take care of a cow or a pig, the purpose is to eat it, so not really good nor bad just an utilitarian purpose. A different thing is treating the animals to fight and the like, which in my book is pretty much a bad thing.

Despite the fact that all of us here in the topic are talking about the fact that cockfighting is a centuries-old tradition in many countries of the world and its preservation is the preservation of the cultural traditions of many peoples and communities. 
But in any case, time passes, civilization develops and traditions gradually change, and those that are associated with great cruelty are gradually becoming a thing of the past.  So it was for example with gladiator fights in ancient Rome.  Then, much later, the knightly tournaments that took place everywhere in Europe in the Middle Ages were similarly canceled. 
Here is such a tradition as cockfighting, I also think it will gradually disappear from the life of even these peoples, where they consider it an unshakable tradition. 
But of course it doesn't happen that fast.  This happens over periods of life of several generations of people.

We cannot stop animals from fighting because human do fight as well, but in this context we are discussing about, the sole purpose of breeding livestock is for human consumption, while some believed that if possible that these animals benefits the best life they have to live within the shortest period before their slaughter or before they die without going through the infliction from human being in using them to fight against themselves, but at the end, they can't escape our judgement of death for consumption.

Probably he is referring to taming and training them since the said animal is wild.  One cannot train an animal unless it gets tamed first especially if it was caught in the wild.

Animal lovers look at cockfighting as barbaric and inhumane but if the government had already legalized the said animal fight, then they could just submit a petition asking for banning the said cockfighting and wait for the result.  There is no need for these people to go out of the street and disrupt transportation and other normal activities.

I also dislike watching people having fun while animals are fighting for their lives.  But since it was legalized, I just avoid streams and channels that broadcast them.

And this doesn't just happen with roosters, which are staged to make the chickens fight. However, there are many other types of animals such sheep, fish, bulls, and so on. Indeed, I also realize that fighting is an animal instinct, but in this case animals are forced to fight just for human pleasure. Likewise with several other types of animals. Humans catch them from the wild and educate them, sometimes humans do cruel things so that the animals they catch can be tame so they can later be staged. And it is done for money and human pleasure

Cockfighting also knows as "SABONG" IN Philippines chicken cock is used here and there is a blade on the foot of the chicken before the chicken is put into the fight there is something called conditioning of the chicken or training in the philippines SABONG is legal in coloseums there are prizes here there are so called fast skills which means which chicken can kill the opponent the fastest is the winner

Probably he is referring to taming and training them since the said animal is wild.  One cannot train an animal unless it gets tamed first especially if it was caught in the wild.

I also dislike watching people having fun while animals are fighting for their lives.  But since it was legalized, I just avoid streams and channels that broadcast them.

If its something that do talks about being traditional then you could really expect that it would really be done or would really be getting out that kind of support or would really be doing it out and expect that there would really be some places on which arent really that licensed or having the permit and its not really that a shocking situation on which they would really be thinking up that having those permits would really be getting a huge cut when it comes to their overall revenue. If you are a gambler or really that a fan of cockfighting then it would be always advisable that you should really be that going into those places on which are legal and permitted so that incase theres a raid then you wont really be putting up yourself on so much trouble,

There are indeed things in life on which it cant really be something be stopped just because it had been instilled into heir cultural aspect and been part
of the tradition whether it would really be on some fiestas or some gatherings or whatever event it would be. Just like been said that this is really that truly that popular or eastern countries specially on Asia on which cockfighting brings out that kind of interest on which it is really that something that
lots of people been entertained. Speaking about online sites or platforms that do offer such thing then there are sure that existing but it would be better
on sticking into those places which are regulated or having the permission to operate so that it would be considered to be legal and you wont be putting yourself on such possible problem.

I don't understand something here, educate animals or what do you mean? I think it's better to use the word train than educate please.

And this doesn't just happen with roosters, which are staged to make the chickens fight. However, there are many other types of animals such sheep, fish, bulls, and so on. Indeed, I also realize that fighting is an animal instinct, but in this case animals are forced to fight just for human pleasure.

Likewise with several other types of animals. Humans catch them from the wild and educate them, sometimes humans do cruel things so that the animals they catch can be tame so they can later be staged. And it is done for money and human pleasure

Not really a waste of time to take care of any animal, it is a problem of why are you taking care of them. It is like if you take care of a cow or a pig, the purpose is to eat it, so not really good nor bad just an utilitarian purpose. A different thing is treating the animals to fight and the like, which in my book is pretty much a bad thing.

I don't think that's a problem. Indeed, the problem of caring for fighting cocks is quite expensive, because you have to buy vitamins, feed and so on. However, this is also comparable to the price of the chicken when it is about to be sold, especially when the chicken that is going to be sold has won several matches, so the price offered to buy the chicken is really fantastic. And this is a business.

Indeed there are some people who are more concerned with their pet chickens than their families. But we also cannot condemn everyone who does cockfighting like that.

I agree with this, maybe some people think it is a waste of time just to take care of roosters. However, for people who like cockfighting, they think that the fighting cock they own is very important and a valuable asset. Because they can get money from raising their fighting cocks and through the bets they make in cockfighting.

First of all, This is gambling and wasting money for the rooster maintenance for preparation to fight is really a careless acts since you don’t know if the rooster will win when they put on the match.

Many locals in our area usually over spend on rooster petting since it requires tons of vitamins and special pellet to make the rooster stronger. Typically, most of the owner spend out of budget that leaves their family suffer. I will understand if the expenses is for the rooster sales but this is gambling which makes tem really careless because it’s not a source of income.

See cockfighting can be as addictive as any other gambling or sportbetting hobby, but there is an important difference which separates cockfighting from those other activities, the owner of the rooster has some power over the outcome of the fight and so, over the chances of winning, so it is logical they take care of their animals as much as they do, because that can be the difference between winning an important amount of money or not.

Since ancient times cockfighting has generally been regarded as a mere form of entertainment. Day by day the style and thinking of this game has changed a lot nowadays khmers are more inclined towards this sport not only for friendship but also for money. So the administration sometimes brings control over money gambling. Banned in many parts of the world due to concerns over animal cruelty, cockfighting remains common from the Philippines to India and is tolerated in regions including parts of northern france.

It's common in our country that this has become a way to earn money, not just for the actual cockfighters but also for the breeding side. And this also creates them connection to the people that they will face in their fights. So, referral after referral, they'll be also asked to breed other opponents rooster if they have become known to be a good one. I've got relatives that are into this, they're not the ones betting for the fights, they're not the owners of the roosters but they're just simply the breeders that have been trusted by the owners that are likely businessmen, seafarers and etc.

I agree with you on that, it depends on where you are from that makes up your mindset towards some things cockfight is such an extinct and unpopular game and at many people from those parts of the world that believe and see the animal as worthy to have protections and law to guide such animal right, citizens from such countries will truly see cockfighting as cruel games.
But some other part of the world still sees and approves of cockfighting as a game and even if it is not played on a large scale, cockfighting is one of the most isolated games because even in such countries where it is allowed, cockfighting still remains unpopular.