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Quote from: Dunamisx on August 26, 2023, 07:51:36 AM

To some people they take it as catching fun through this means and so also they applied same approach in using other animals as well for gambling purpose not considering their own right and feeling for a better life, maybe this include part of the reasons why you will see the association of livestock management organizations taking drastic measures against the abuse on living animal with the way we use or handle them for our variety uses.

The gambling should be taken as the fun based one,cock fighting was the best entertainer of Asia nation.From the ancient time,people using the animals for the betting and for the entrainment.The horse race was most popular one all over the world.For the horse race people using the Persian horse and many country people use to buy the horse.

Thus the horse import and export most famous one only because for the betting.Before the king used horse,now most of the horse was used in betting compared to the travel.Like wise the cock import and export to the Asian nation from various countries.The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

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Quote from: Comicking on August 20, 2023, 01:10:10 AM

Anybody know of any crypto casinos that offer cockfighting? preferably vietnamese thai cambodian or filipino

That’s sort of a wild thought. Are there countries where cockfighting is legal? That seems like a good way to paint a target on your back if you’re a casino. I guess as long as it’s legal in the place it’s happening there isn’t too much you can say. I would imagine it would be inviting a lot of trouble your way from animal activists.

There are several countries where cockfighting is indeed legal, betting on them it is usually down in place, though.
It would be possible for a casino to include cockfighting in their betting options if their headquarters are in a country when it is legal and they only offer such bets in their national market. Though, there would be a limitation when comes to the expansion of such casino in the international market, because I have no doubt there would be a big boycott by many gamblers.

No casino would like to be excluded for an international public, no there is no financial reason to include cockfighting.

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This got me thinking if bullfighting was included in any sports betting app. Maybe it would be legal because it is more western and fully legal in countries like Mexico and Spain, but I imagine it would still get a lot of backlash.

Luckily I found nothing of the sort. Surely there are bookies in those countries that take bets but illegally.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on August 26, 2023, 03:22:15 PM

First cockfighting isn't ethical and is considered as a criminal activity. But since everyone is free to do anything here as long as it's not breaking any rules. I never seen any gambling website that offer this kind of activity since it's not considered as a sport or a game. Animals fights since they are organized by people it can be challenging with government rules that can stop that place and shut it down with the website.
I don't think there are any casinos that offer such things.

Indeed, we think it was not right and it is criminal activity but guess what, this is allowed in our country as long as it is legally operated. In fact, many rich people here in my country are involved in cockfighting, they spend millions if possible to have a number of roosters to be used for the game. But I'd never heard of or found any betting sites that promote cockfighting. You can bet this if you are in the arena where you can see an actual cockfighting and you can really see a lot of gamblers are there.

That's because cockfighting is only famous in some Asian countries and not in other countries, even though they also have animal bets like bulls or others. Even though they use different animals, the point is the same: they bet using animals, which makes the regulators prohibit it. But some areas allow cockfighting or other animals as betting, so this keeps people betting. And since it's only in the local area, there probably isn't a betting site that would promote this cockfight, especially if it's a live bet, which requires an internet connection to watch the fight live.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on August 26, 2023, 03:22:15 PM

First cockfighting isn't ethical and is considered as a criminal activity. But since everyone is free to do anything here as long as it's not breaking any rules. I never seen any gambling website that offer this kind of activity since it's not considered as a sport or a game. Animals fights since they are organized by people it can be challenging with government rules that can stop that place and shut it down with the website.
I don't think there are any casinos that offer such things.

Indeed, we think it was not right and it is criminal activity but guess what, this is allowed in our country as long as it is legally operated. In fact, many rich people here in my country are involved in cockfighting, they spend millions if possible to have a number of roosters to be used for the game. But I'd never heard of or found any betting sites that promote cockfighting. You can bet this if you are in the arena where you can see an actual cockfighting and you can really see a lot of gamblers are there.

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Quote from: Comicking on August 20, 2023, 01:10:10 AM

Anybody know of any crypto casinos that offer cockfighting? preferably vietnamese thai cambodian or filipino

That’s sort of a wild thought. Are there countries where cockfighting is legal? That seems like a good way to paint a target on your back if you’re a casino. I guess as long as it’s legal in the place it’s happening there isn’t too much you can say. I would imagine it would be inviting a lot of trouble your way from animal activists.

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Quote from: piebeyb on August 26, 2023, 06:42:39 AM

Except for running contests such as horse racing or other animal races that will not harm animals, because they are trained to run using speed so that no serious injuries are experienced that might cause death, I also think that everyone will disagree with this kind of gambling moreover added in online crypto casinos or sports betting sites.

I don't see anything bad in horse racing, since they are not fighting or injuring themselves. All I am against is using them to fight, you are forcing the animals to fight, which is not really making sense. I think anyone found participating in things like that should be arrested and prosecuted. I don't even know how online gambling is going to be implemented, if it is, people will definitely be gambling, but it doesn't really make sense and shouldn't be allowed, and I am sure most countries will be against it.

Quote from: Jating on August 26, 2023, 06:48:01 AM

Lol, this is also my first time to hear alcohol being used for cockfighting, it's not that they are going to be strong or tough during a fight.

It's kind of funny to me. How are you going to give a cock alcohol? It's really bad, and I don't know how true it is, but I am not denying it. It's kind of possible. People do crazy things just to make money, but to me, it's really annoying and shouldn't be allowed. Alcohol is not meant for animals, and I see no reason why it should be given to animals. They have been abused, which is not supposed to be allowed.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on August 26, 2023, 03:22:15 PM

First cockfighting isn't ethical and is considered as a criminal activity. But since everyone is free to do anything here as long as it's not breaking any rules. I never seen any gambling website that offer this kind of activity since it's not considered as a sport or a game. Animals fights since they are organized by people it can be challenging with government rules that can stop that place and shut it down with the website.
I don't think there are any casinos that offer such things.

In most place around Africa, there is law that prohibits such and it not term a criminal offence to fight with animals in fact I have seen on several occasions dogs fights and owners bet on them also as horse race raceshe northern part of the country, this is why we have seen a lot of personal discrimination against such but some people still involve I such activities.

But the limitation is that such games are not popular and casinos don't list them in the games so it's a local game, both cockfight, dog fight and sometimes horse race.

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First cockfighting isn't ethical and is considered as a criminal activity. But since everyone is free to do anything here as long as it's not breaking any rules. I never seen any gambling website that offer this kind of activity since it's not considered as a sport or a game. Animals fights since they are organized by people it can be challenging with government rules that can stop that place and shut it down with the website.
I don't think there are any casinos that offer such things.

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Quote from: Issa56 on August 26, 2023, 04:40:15 AM

Quote from: Rabata on August 25, 2023, 11:29:25 PM

No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.

I see the fight as wickedness, and they are just abusing the animals. I don't see anything fun in seeing two animals fight and hurting each other, that's just wickedness to me. The cockfight is not really popular in my country, the animal fight that is popular in my country is the ram fight, which is mostly done during the Muslim festive period but is illegal, so it is done hidden. I see it as animal abuse because one of the animals will get injured, and some might even die. I don't see any fun in that.

To some people they take it as catching fun through this means and so also they applied same approach in using other animals as well for gambling purpose not considering their own right and feeling for a better life, maybe this include part of the reasons why you will see the association of livestock management organizations taking drastic measures against the abuse on living animal with the way we use or handle them for our variety uses.

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 23, 2023, 01:26:16 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 23, 2023, 10:14:57 AM

In our country, they were legal like 2-3 years ago but then the government finally decided to stop and make them illegal because of the series of kidnappings due to this type of game. Despite that, there have been a lot of new websites/apps that have come out but they don't have a license to operate so that means they're illegally operating and they will be held behind bars if they get caught. That's possible that in some other countries, they could also face jail time if one has but it differs from each country. But I am just saying that maybe you should change your game if you wanna gamble.

Right mate because choosing an illegal game as a gambler limits you in several ways such as the availability of the games on multiple casinos and also how you intend to deal with the law when they come knocking, because cockfight or any animal fight at all is mostly seen as illegal activities in most places of the world including my own country, unless in a few limited remote areas where such practice still take place.

It happens in remote areas where laws aren't recognized although some basic laws have been appreciated. But the reality that's hard to accept is no matter what laws are there especially in countries like ours, this won't be stopped.

Quote from: abel1337 on August 23, 2023, 01:26:16 PM

I remembered that number of cases of kidnapping happened and most of them are agents or connected to that cockfighting casino. I wonder what happened to those victims since there's no news about the missing persons. I believe that after that casino that is forced closed by the government, several illegal cockfighting casinos appeared but no one really shined or I guess some of them are still operating today in the underground scene since they can't promote it or make a public stunt about it.

Yes, I still remember it until now and the sad update is that there's no longer news about those kidnapped victims and cockfighters. The most recent news that I have seen is that the family is being bribed 20 million pesos for them to stop looking for their victim loved one.

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Quote from: tusandii on August 26, 2023, 06:57:02 AM

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Not only happening on rural area but also in urban area since there are big cockpits getting a license to operate such dens. They create big events on that places and many people goes there to bet then have fun with this type of betting. This is big industry on Philippines and it generate if not millions a billion peso to the owner and also to the government officials getting taxes from this venues. If talking about police protecting some big people maybe there is but we don't have any concrete proof that can point out there participation.

However, cockfighting events in the Philippines are more often held in rural areas where there can be up to 3 or 4 cockfighting events a week, although in rural areas these events also involve large amounts of money betting.
Usually in big cities cockfighting events occur when there is a big event and when big cities hold events only once a week and tend to be filled by big hobbyists and rich people to bet on.
The government wants to take action by relaxing the cockfighting event because there is a large amount of tax money given out and even at national events there is a tax that is applied by the government there.
It's just that unfortunately so far local online casinos on a fiat basis already have cockfighting betting offers.

You would really be able to expect that there would really be specific options on where bettors could really be able to deal with cockfighting without going into those physical places on which seeing the fight live
and have the convenience on seeing those things on your front of your pc or your mobile phone which i could say that it isnt really that a hassle thing. It is really that cant be denied that when it comes to real experience and ambiance then going into these arenas are really that totally a different experience and this is why i cant blame out into those people on why they are really that a fan on going into these places.
When it comes to tax then pretty sure that the government would really be that going after with those arenas or businesses that related to gambling knowing that these places do really generate tons of money
basing up on those bettors or gamblers who would really be that loving on dealing cockfighting which it is really that totally popular in southeast-asia.

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Quote from: arwin100 on August 25, 2023, 07:30:45 AM

Quote from: tusandii on August 25, 2023, 03:56:19 AM

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Not only happening on rural area but also in urban area since there are big cockpits getting a license to operate such dens. They create big events on that places and many people goes there to bet then have fun with this type of betting. This is big industry on Philippines and it generate if not millions a billion peso to the owner and also to the government officials getting taxes from this venues. If talking about police protecting some big people maybe there is but we don't have any concrete proof that can point out there participation.

However, cockfighting events in the Philippines are more often held in rural areas where there can be up to 3 or 4 cockfighting events a week, although in rural areas these events also involve large amounts of money betting.
Usually in big cities cockfighting events occur when there is a big event and when big cities hold events only once a week and tend to be filled by big hobbyists and rich people to bet on.
The government wants to take action by relaxing the cockfighting event because there is a large amount of tax money given out and even at national events there is a tax that is applied by the government there.
It's just that unfortunately so far local online casinos on a fiat basis already have cockfighting betting offers.

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Quote from: Hispo on August 25, 2023, 11:49:38 AM

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I think it's a game that's played publicly between two groups of people who send their cocks in the fight (after drugging that cock a sip of alcoholic beverage) to give a hard and long fight, but I don't know if there's a casino that offers it. These games are not displayed in TV as well because people think that such games are insane, even they won't display bull fight, bull races and lots of other things that are available in this world but are tagged as insane, which is why due to no high recognition of the game, casinos also don't prefer listing such fights.

Excuse, what do you mean when you say alcohol is used in cockfighting, on the animals themselves? I had never heard anything like that before.
Ideally the owner of the roaster would prefer if it is completely aware of its surroundings and can focus on fighting, giving alcohol to an animal against its will and then forcing them to fight to death sounds even worse than most of the stuff I have read in this thread. Sad

What country are you from, by the way? Have you personally seen people doing that before betting on roasters or it is only you have only heard about it?

Lol, this is also my first time to hear alcohol being used for cockfighting, it's not that they are going to be strong or tough during a fight. That's how they are breed in the first place, that's why they are called cockfighters as they are always ready and train to kill each one inside the arena without alcohol on their system.

Anyhow, as others have mentioned already, no crypto based casinos are going to offer this kind of sports. Maybe they are afraid that some groups might call them out. So it's better to just play it locally, in my opinion. If the OP can't find it in his place, then he has to travel to places like he mentioned to enjoy and bet on this game.

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Quote from: Issa56 on August 26, 2023, 04:40:15 AM

I see the fight as wickedness, and they are just abusing the animals. I don't see anything fun in seeing two animals fight and hurting each other, that's just wickedness to me. The cockfight is not really popular in my country, the animal fight that is popular in my country is the ram fight, which is mostly done during the Muslim festive period but is illegal, so it is done hidden. I see it as animal abuse because one of the animals will get injured, and some might even die. I don't see any fun in that.

Everything that is fighting animals, whether it's chickens or sheep, I think it will still hurt the animals themselves, moreover many people are betting on the animals, even so I've seen ram fights in several areas, usually it's due to traditional ceremonies so it's not gambling events like cockfights, but in my opinion that also includes hurting animals and it's not good to watch.

Except for running contests such as horse racing or other animal races that will not harm animals, because they are trained to run using speed so that no serious injuries are experienced that might cause death, I also think that everyone will disagree with this kind of gambling moreover added in online crypto casinos or sports betting sites.

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Quote from: Rabata on August 25, 2023, 11:29:25 PM

No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.

I see the fight as wickedness, and they are just abusing the animals. I don't see anything fun in seeing two animals fight and hurting each other, that's just wickedness to me. The cockfight is not really popular in my country, the animal fight that is popular in my country is the ram fight, which is mostly done during the Muslim festive period but is illegal, so it is done hidden. I see it as animal abuse because one of the animals will get injured, and some might even die. I don't see any fun in that.

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Quote from: Rabata on August 25, 2023, 11:29:25 PM

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No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.

There are still places that the government cannot reach because it is difficult for the government to trace the location. That's because the players don't spread the location of the place to many people or many places so that only certain people who are familiar with cockfighting will know about it. They may be spectators who have often seen cockfights and enjoy the fights, apart from the regular players who continue to gamble.

That is why, in some countries, this cockfighting game is still quite popular even though only a few people know its location. But that's enough for us to know that this cockfight is still gambling and is growing rapidly. But we don't know whether this cockfighting fight is available in offline or online casinos.

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It looks like a bizarre sports adventure against the animals. Animals are meant to be protected and to have them go against each other is not what the international community would like to do or be seeing, I racing is better than fighting and this is why you may not find a casino easily on that. However, on the local stage, people use to have such games where they set up two hen to fight each other and they will be by the side watching and betting. It is an old local gambling though.

I'm not also in favor of cockfighting because it involves animals being used to fight against each other for humans satisfaction. These creatures have their right to live too the same way we have ours and i just can't stand to see them hurting their very own specie just so the gamblers can have some fun and profit.

Cockfighting remains legal in the Philippines but as far as I know, currently it is prohibited to make online bets due to restrictions made by the previous president. Hence, it will be illegal if you will persist to try e-sabong or other types of online betting regarding cockfighting. If you don't want to be punished, better follow the law and do not make stupid decisions that could cost you your life. Since there are already many pending cases related to lost people that has been never even found up until this date related to online cockfighting betting activities.

- There are actually a lot of people who do not favor Sabong or cockfighting because the small amount that will only feed the family is still bet on, thinking that they will win the small amount they bet on with a large amount, but usually they lose.

So the result is that the family is affected because of a vice that is used incorrectly, although in some places it is legal and in other places it is illegal. It's just that in other provinces, it's rampant because the people in the province have no other way to earn a living, and that's what they see as a way to make money.

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Quote from: Rabata on August 25, 2023, 11:29:25 PM

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No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.

Cockfight is popular in specific countries, few of which were Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia and Southeast Asian part. Thailand have got the best fighting rooster and gambling arenas. Every form of gamble that got the involvement of animals will have opposition from the blue cross and other animal support authority. Most of the countries have cockfight as illegal, but it persists and people continue to gamble on it. As said no platform host/conduct events online with cryptocurrency acceptance.

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Quote from: Comicking on August 20, 2023, 01:10:10 AM

Anybody know of any crypto casinos that offer cockfighting? preferably vietnamese thai cambodian or filipino

So far I haven't found a crypto casino that provides cockfighting, either for fiat casinos because so far I have never played at a fiat casino so I don't know about that, but I think you will find it difficult or you won't find it at any casino because cockfighting is not a type of game permitted to do.
Communities in Southeast Asia often play this game but it is done in secret because the law in that country prohibits such games, because this is not just a game with lots of money involved there because people will bet to choose and it often ends up being a crime because of fights and so on, like in my country even though people still continue to play this game but it will be done in secret and gambling will always be involved in it, with a very large turnover of money.

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