If they want XT for more\better\full control, then XT it WILL be.
For them but not for me and not for the rest of the users.
Veris in numeris
Topic: Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong calls the industry to fork Bitcoin Core - page 4. (Read 9288 times)
November 07, 2015, 05:34:54 AM
For them but not for me and not for the rest of the users.
Veris in numeris
November 07, 2015, 04:38:24 AM
jump out of your bubble and see who and what is really damaging the community The premise that thermos is in a "bubble" is fallacious because it is ad hominem. Let's be rational and communicate in good faith, instead of arguing about who is or isn't in a bubble.
Bitcoin, inclusive of its community, is antifragile.
We REQUIRE adversity such as the attempted Gavinista governance coup and attempted hostile XT fork to grow stronger.
lol! you just refute your own words within 3 seconds. amazing.
November 07, 2015, 02:27:09 AM
It seems to me that there is a new round of Bitcoin XT debate coming to us as the end of the year is nearing. I am sure that propaganda will do its job!
definitely seems to be a coordinated ramp-up in the big-block agit propaganda ... just like near the beginning of the year.
I suppose when all you have is mouthpieces, but not brains, you have to use your mouthpieces.
Is that what you're using?
November 07, 2015, 02:24:00 AM
It seems to me that there is a new round of Bitcoin XT debate coming to us as the end of the year is nearing. I am sure that propaganda will do its job!
definitely seems to be a coordinated ramp-up in the big-block agit propaganda ... just like near the beginning of the year.
I suppose when all you have is mouthpieces, but not brains, you have to use your mouthpieces.
November 06, 2015, 09:59:26 PM
Censorship. 
Very disappointed to see Adam Back of all people conceding the (politicized, strategic, colloquial) use of "censorship" as synonymous with forum moderation.
Time to start mocking everyone who uses the more provocative, inflammatory term with not only that classic XKCD, but also with pictures of actual Sensor Ships.
Like this.
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ZOMGAWD HALP ITS TEH SENSOR SHIP!!1!1!
November 06, 2015, 09:39:11 PM
I am happy to be siding with the cyptherpunks and not the money-hungry suits and US gov (or other gov) boot lickers ('please regulate us' yuck ).
I prefer the cyptherpunks who primary focus on privacy and keeping Bitcoin as hard to control as possible.
The funny thing is the suits chase the $$$, but its having a currency that can not be controlled by any gov that protects users privacy and gives users control, that is what will create value. Like always in business, its people who focus on providing value not the people who chase money, that actually make the big $$$.
On a related note.
Do the idiots at coinbase have any idea, how it would look to the rest of the world, if their take over is successful?? To China To Russia, To India.
So instead of anti-gov cyptherpunks, we gonna have people who go visit the CIA regularly empowered and paid for by boot-licking US big companies. How does that look to the rest of the world?
I dont want some paypal 2.0 customised to the whims of US government. I dont want their fucking coin. I love Bitcoin I will not love their US centric, more centralised coin. The rest of world is sick of US dollar. Coinbase and buddies can go and piss off.
I am sticking with cyptherpunks.
).I prefer the cyptherpunks who primary focus on privacy and keeping Bitcoin as hard to control as possible.
The funny thing is the suits chase the $$$, but its having a currency that can not be controlled by any gov that protects users privacy and gives users control, that is what will create value. Like always in business, its people who focus on providing value not the people who chase money, that actually make the big $$$.
On a related note.
Do the idiots at coinbase have any idea, how it would look to the rest of the world, if their take over is successful?? To China To Russia, To India.
So instead of anti-gov cyptherpunks, we gonna have people who go visit the CIA regularly empowered and paid for by boot-licking US big companies. How does that look to the rest of the world?
I dont want some paypal 2.0 customised to the whims of US government. I dont want their fucking coin. I love Bitcoin I will not love their US centric, more centralised coin. The rest of world is sick of US dollar. Coinbase and buddies can go and piss off.
I am sticking with cyptherpunks.
Preach.
November 06, 2015, 09:27:46 PM
I am happy to be siding with the cyptherpunks and not the money-hungry suits and US gov (or other gov) boot lickers ('please regulate us', yuck ).
I prefer the cyptherpunks whose priority is privacy and keeping Bitcoin as hard to control as possible.
The funny thing is the suits chase the $$$, but its having a currency that can not be controlled by any gov, that protects users privacy, and gives users control, that is what will create value. Like always in business, its people who focus on providing value not the people who chase money, that actually make the big $$$.
On a related note.
Do the people at coinbase have any idea, how it would look to the rest of the world, if their take over is successful?? To China To Russia, To India.
So instead of anti-gov cyptherpunks, we gonna have people who go visit the CIA regularly, empowered and paid for by boot-licking US big companies. How does that look to the rest of the world?
I don't want some paypal 2.0 customised to the whims of US government. I don't want their fucking coin. I love Bitcoin I will not love their US centric, more centralised coin. The rest of world is sick of US dollar. Coinbase and buddies can go and piss off.
I am sticking with cyptherpunks.
).I prefer the cyptherpunks whose priority is privacy and keeping Bitcoin as hard to control as possible.
The funny thing is the suits chase the $$$, but its having a currency that can not be controlled by any gov, that protects users privacy, and gives users control, that is what will create value. Like always in business, its people who focus on providing value not the people who chase money, that actually make the big $$$.
On a related note.
Do the people at coinbase have any idea, how it would look to the rest of the world, if their take over is successful?? To China To Russia, To India.
So instead of anti-gov cyptherpunks, we gonna have people who go visit the CIA regularly, empowered and paid for by boot-licking US big companies. How does that look to the rest of the world?
I don't want some paypal 2.0 customised to the whims of US government. I don't want their fucking coin. I love Bitcoin I will not love their US centric, more centralised coin. The rest of world is sick of US dollar. Coinbase and buddies can go and piss off.
I am sticking with cyptherpunks.
November 06, 2015, 08:01:07 PM
Forkers should fork off.
May they havecoinbase goldman sachs too.
Interesting theymos seems to like stamp. I sure hope they would not go jack nut along with them forkers.
These relentless corporatist shills are exhausting, yet, what cant kill bitcoin makes us stronger!
May they have
Interesting theymos seems to like stamp. I sure hope they would not go jack nut along with them forkers.
These relentless corporatist shills are exhausting, yet, what cant kill bitcoin makes us stronger!
November 06, 2015, 07:12:08 PM
Someone please tell Coinbase that XT is dead in the water? Last time I looked Coinbase is not mining so what they want matters not.
Thats sad but its true. Anyway most people don't care to cast vote (so its no)
November 06, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
Fuck XT and fuck Coinbase. If you want to promote a fork, come up with something better than BIP 101 and Hearn's crap.
November 06, 2015, 05:02:02 PM
Is a split in the community really worth it? I imagine that such changes could ruin the bitcoin price.
Not everything is about the price. It would damage every aspect of the Bitcoin ecosystem. I do not understand why anyone in their right mind would want everything to split up. You do not take over by force. Either gain consensus with the right features, or stop what you're doing. I do agree that the Core development could increase their pace, however with proper testing. I'd rather have a slow development than implementations of possibly damaging code. You know your argument is very weak, so you (consciously or not) puff up your rhetoric with feeble attempts at impact exaggeration.
Censorship. November 06, 2015, 04:55:50 PM
Is a split in the community really worth it? I imagine that such changes could ruin the bitcoin price.
November 06, 2015, 04:54:28 PM
the Greatest Censor of Bitcoin History You know your argument is very weak, so you (consciously or not) puff up your rhetoric with feeble attempts at impact exaggeration.
November 06, 2015, 04:37:57 PM
The premise that thermos is in a "bubble" is fallacious because it is ad hominem.
Uuuuh, ad hominem against the Greatest Censor of Bitcoin History ...
November 06, 2015, 04:27:08 PM
jump out of your bubble and see who and what is really damaging the community The premise that thermos is in a "bubble" is fallacious because it is ad hominem. Let's be rational and communicate in good faith, instead of arguing about who is or isn't in a bubble.
Bitcoin, inclusive of its community, is antifragile.
We REQUIRE adversity such as the attempted Gavinista governance coup and attempted hostile XT fork to grow stronger.
When you whine about "really damaging the community" what jumps out at me is your gratuitous use of the utterly unnecessary term "really" to modify "damaging."
"Really damaging?" As opposed to what, fake damaging or trivially damaging?
Such linguistic cues betray the fact you know your argument is very weak, so you (consciously or not) puff up your rhetoric with feeble attempts at impact exaggeration.
November 06, 2015, 03:59:55 PM
It seems to me that there is a new round of Bitcoin XT debate coming to us as the end of the year is nearing. I am sure that propaganda will do its job!
November 06, 2015, 03:55:44 PM
If they want XT for more\better\full control, then XT it WILL be.
For them but not for me and not for the rest of the users.
November 06, 2015, 12:45:59 PM
Well, too bad but Bitcoin is allready in hands of the Elite...
If they want XT for more\better\full control, then XT it WILL be.
Too bad, but bitcoin is just another instrument to rule markets.
If they want XT for more\better\full control, then XT it WILL be.
Too bad, but bitcoin is just another instrument to rule markets.
November 06, 2015, 05:09:21 AM
XT has code which blacklists IPs. Until that is removed, it can keep sinking to where it deserves to go.
Even without those features XT stands for 8 GB blocks.I suggest that we (all bitcoin users not just the miners) decide now what limit we need now. In 20 years we decide what limit we need at this point in time or if we don't need a limit anymore. With bitcoin we don't need a master that tells us what we have to do. Only slaves have masters.
Exactly. The idea that Einstein, Satoshi or anyone else can predict what Bitcoin is going to need even 5 years from now is a joke, and yet Gavin Andresen seems to think he can predict the next 20 years. A better idea is needed than static, scheduled increases (especially overly-aggressive increase schedules).
November 06, 2015, 05:07:39 AM
P.S. I was trying to find that quote from Gavin where he describes his vision of Bitcoin's future as being one where full nodes are only run by what are essentially banks. It was several paragraphs long. Does anyone have that?
Are you trying to find what Gavin expanded on that matter? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6306
you mean satoshi? The post you linked is by Satoshi:
The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale. That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server. The design supports letting users just be users. The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be. Those few nodes will be big server farms. The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate.
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