coinjedi / betsofbitco.in SCAMMERS: Declares "Push" on obvious win for BFL bet - page 6.

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 11, 2013, 06:41:47 PM

Quote from: niner on April 05, 2013, 09:03:42 PM

bitbet.us had almost the same bet and it was not a "push".
http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/

Turns out bitbet.us may actually be in the wrong here! My Little Single is getting 29.4 Gh/s with a firmware update.
In their defense, the bet could be argued to require +/- 10% as delivered (eg, disqualifying firmware updates), but if this performance issue had merely been my software, they'd have defrauded people...

Except for the part where the advertised performance was 60Gh. Of which 29.4 Gh is not within 10% or 20% or 40%.

Maff. They say Bitcoins are based on it.

(This, of course, leaving aside: that a reputable site like Bitbet would never consider the "testimony" of a lying sack of shit like yourself; that "little Single" was not a product offered by BFL at any point; that you are not a customer of BFL; that no delivery took place; that no proof was in fact offered in time - no, company-released publicity photos do not count as "proof" - and that we still haven't had a good explanation for the box of fans - which apparently aren't needed at all, in spite of being "the product". Among various other things.)

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 11, 2013, 06:41:47 PM

Quote from: niner on April 05, 2013, 09:03:42 PM

bitbet.us had almost the same bet and it was not a "push".
http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/

Turns out bitbet.us may actually be in the wrong here! My Little Single is getting 29.4 Gh/s with a firmware update.
In their defense, the bet could be argued to require +/- 10% as delivered (eg, disqualifying firmware updates), but if this performance issue had merely been my software, they'd have defrauded people...

How come you keep stirring the pot? can't we let these two strings die? I understand they have been shipping since March 31 and I understand they have only shipped one unit and I understand other people lost money and are mad, but I CANNOT "unwatch" this thread (there is some bug in the option). It keeps popping up and now you are going to make them all start this catty fight all over again and this will keep popping up in my reply string. Please let the dead horse be buried and stop kicking the poor beast.

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Quote from: niner on April 05, 2013, 09:03:42 PM

bitbet.us had almost the same bet and it was not a "push".
http://bitbet.us/bet/265/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-april-1st/

Turns out bitbet.us may actually be in the wrong here! My Little Single is getting 29.4 Gh/s with a firmware update.
In their defense, the bet could be argued to require +/- 10% as delivered (eg, disqualifying firmware updates), but if this performance issue had merely been my software, they'd have defrauded people...

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Luke-jr is not a dev. He's one of the contributors. There's tons of them. The devteam is listed on the bitcoin.org site. That said, he's certainly done a great job so far parlaying his inexistent status and absent community trust into plane tickets and cheezburgers.

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Lukejr,

I wish you would open your eyes. This is not a group of "angry bettors that lost coins" - this is a group of honest bettors that got scammed.

Even if you personally believe your BFL mission was altruistic, this is how you will be remembered from now on:

Quote from: Monster Tent on April 11, 2013, 06:42:46 AM

lol @ a bitcoin dev selling his reputation for a plane trip and a magical unicorn machine.

Quote from: Este Nuno on April 11, 2013, 09:40:13 AM

Judging by his attitude displayed thus far in this thread I would say there's a lot more than simple naivety going on there.

Quote from: AndyRossy on April 11, 2013, 02:31:54 AM

Sore losers? Dude, they're customers, that were scammed.

From community perspective, this is how they saw what went down.

I echo the group's findings. Maybe you were played, maybe you knew all along, but your actions helped tip the scales of justice towards "bullshit"

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Quote from: 00null on April 11, 2013, 06:23:41 AM

BTW, I am not blaming Luke, he is just a too naive person to understand that he actually participated in a scam.

Judging by his attitude displayed thus far in this thread I would say there's a lot more than simple naivety going on there.

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Quote from: greyhawk on April 11, 2013, 05:27:57 AM

See the thing here is, the bible says "Love thy neighbour as thyself". So luke, devout christian that he is, of course follows this tenet.

The real question is now
a) how deep is the Well of Self-Loathing within Luke that he is this abrasive and cold-hearted?
b) if we could find a way to tap into the Well of Self-Loathing, how many BFL ASICMiners could we run with that power?

Run not that many, but you'd cool a great deal.

Then again BFL already has a box of fans (which, notably, was in no way related to their actual product, which as demonstrated cools passively).

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Wait, he claims to be a devout Christian? Perhaps his piety is also a bad act - wouldn't be the first time I've come across such a person (I claim to be one, so I am, pay no attention to my actual beliefs and actions, f*** you got my salvation.).

As for Avalon, they shipped three finished units to jgarzik, the Foundation and one of their Chinese customers. They didn't just leave a prototype on their factory desk and make one of their paid consultants make an internet post saying that they've "receieved" or "accepted" it or whatever.

This is looking bad for BFL delivery in April. Maybe even the Swedish guys will beat them to market.

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lol @ a bitcoin dev selling his reputation for a plane trip and a magical unicorn machine.

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I really hope that the core devs most carefully check every piece of code that comes from Luke. We now know that we would join any scam once he get a hug in return. Say BFL want to have some code in bitcoin-qt, they only have to hug Luke and volá they will get whatever they want.
Sometimes the Bitcoin world is really really scary.
BTW, I am not blaming Luke, he is just a too naive person to understand that he actually participated in a scam.

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Quote from: AndyRossy on April 11, 2013, 02:31:54 AM

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I think they're sore losers who shouldn't be betting if they can't take responsibility

This is the same, with ppl who invested in pirate? Sore losers? Dude, they're customers, that were scammed.

See the thing here is, the bible says "Love thy neighbour as thyself". So luke, devout christian that he is, of course follows this tenet.

The real question is now
a) how deep is the Well of Self-Loathing within Luke that he is this abrasive and cold-hearted?
b) if we could find a way to tap into the Well of Self-Loathing, how many BFL ASICMiners could we run with that power?

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I think they're sore losers who shouldn't be betting if they can't take responsibility

This is the same, with ppl who invested in pirate? Sore losers? Dude, they're customers, that were scammed.

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Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 09, 2013, 03:13:14 PM

Quote from: Micon on April 09, 2013, 03:09:48 PM

Quote from: Luke-Jr on April 06, 2013, 04:38:25 PM

Last 3 trolls seem to be missing the fact that the bet deadline was at the end of April 1, not the start of it.

1) do you really think these angry users are all trolls?

I think they're sore losers who shouldn't be betting if they can't take responsibility for making sure the bet terms satisfy them.
They should be glad it was declared a draw rather than a win for the pre-April side.

Quote from: Micon on April 09, 2013, 03:09:48 PM

2) IMO you helped BFL manipulate a bet, which is shameful & dishonest.

All I did was accept a device I paid for.

IMO saying you "accept a device I paid for" is extremely weak.

1) where is the device now?
2) it has been on the entire time since you bought it?
3) why didn't you take it home with you?

I'm not going to argue here. I have important shit to attend to. I think everyone sees that you were used as BFL's pawn to play a little game of fuck over BFL don't-bettors.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 10, 2013, 05:16:47 PM

Quote from: Minor Miner on April 10, 2013, 03:10:50 PM

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 09, 2013, 06:10:17 PM

Interesting that two of the three people who ordered custom leather products from my brother-in-law are mentioned on this page, and all three have yet to pay, ignoring my past requests of them to kindly do so.

I've never gone public in mentioning their names, nor probably never will, with the exception of this post being somewhat of a clue.

Wait wait what?!

How about private mentioning of their name? The only thing missing in the picture of the skinny weirdo part time shill part time jezuz freak is some leather.

you could not write this made for TV show. Sonny, Josh, their delivery, the guy with the R2D2 hat that defends them to the end and now leather. It effing great. I don't care if my asic is just an expensive heater that runs in the corner and supports the network because seinfeld cannot write stories like the one we get to watch..

But Larry David sure the hell tried: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIVYdd60eNs

Just not realistic. No one would let a fat chick off the elevator first so that they would have to look at that flabby ass all the way down the hallway.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on April 10, 2013, 03:10:50 PM

Quote from: MPOE-PR on April 10, 2013, 02:07:20 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 09, 2013, 06:10:17 PM

Interesting that two of the three people who ordered custom leather products from my brother-in-law are mentioned on this page, and all three have yet to pay, ignoring my past requests of them to kindly do so.

I've never gone public in mentioning their names, nor probably never will, with the exception of this post being somewhat of a clue.

Wait wait what?!

How about private mentioning of their name? The only thing missing in the picture of the skinny weirdo part time shill part time jezuz freak is some leather.

you could not write this made for TV show. Sonny, Josh, their delivery, the guy with the R2D2 hat that defends them to the end and now leather. It effing great. I don't care if my asic is just an expensive heater that runs in the corner and supports the network because seinfeld cannot write stories like the one we get to watch..

But Larry David sure the hell tried: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIVYdd60eNs

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on April 10, 2013, 02:07:20 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 09, 2013, 06:10:17 PM

Interesting that two of the three people who ordered custom leather products from my brother-in-law are mentioned on this page, and all three have yet to pay, ignoring my past requests of them to kindly do so.

I've never gone public in mentioning their names, nor probably never will, with the exception of this post being somewhat of a clue.

Wait wait what?!

How about private mentioning of their name? The only thing missing in the picture of the skinny weirdo part time shill part time jezuz freak is some leather.

you could not write this made for TV show. Sonny, Josh, their delivery, the guy with the R2D2 hat that defends them to the end and now leather. It effing great. I don't care if my asic is just an expensive heater that runs in the corner and supports the network because seinfeld cannot write stories like the one we get to watch..

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 09, 2013, 06:10:17 PM

Interesting that two of the three people who ordered custom leather products from my brother-in-law are mentioned on this page, and all three have yet to pay, ignoring my past requests of them to kindly do so.

I've never gone public in mentioning their names, nor probably never will, with the exception of this post being somewhat of a clue.

Wait wait what?!

How about private mentioning of their name? The only thing missing in the picture of the skinny weirdo part time shill part time jezuz freak is some leather.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on April 09, 2013, 06:24:10 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 09, 2013, 06:20:00 PM

Quote from: Minor Miner on April 09, 2013, 06:14:17 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 09, 2013, 06:10:17 PM

Interesting that two of the three people who ordered custom leather products from my brother-in-law are mentioned on this page, and all three have yet to pay, ignoring my past requests of them to kindly do so.

I've never gone public in mentioning their names, nor probably never will, with the exception of this post being somewhat of a clue.

Even though I paid Martin out of my pocket cash for his services, the three items sets on a shelf in his studio as a reminder to him of what possibly Bitcoin is all about. Slowly, but surely I've been changing his way of thinking, but what does he think when he sees threads like this one (of me or of Bitcoin)? Moreover, what do the newbies think when they see said threads? Bitcoins = Gambling = Gambling site owners deciding the outcome to their or some other's benefit?

This episode reeks on so many levels, and to think that a many bitcoiners tried coming to their rescue before this exploded, but to no avail.

pics of the leather products? and where is the rod through the frontal lobe on the avatar?

A leather thread does exist on this forum depicting one of the products with permission, whereas the other two no such permission exist, coupled with the designs would possibly give away as to whom they belong to. Apologies if this seems a cop-out answer, but it is what it is. Six-sided stars may or may not be a clue.

nuff said. and the rod in the frontal lobe?

I "push" it up my ass at 3PM daily due to having to honor a bet. Grin

I would provide an image of the rod, but that would give away to whom I lost the bet to. Grin

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 09, 2013, 06:20:00 PM

Quote from: Minor Miner on April 09, 2013, 06:14:17 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 09, 2013, 06:10:17 PM

Interesting that two of the three people who ordered custom leather products from my brother-in-law are mentioned on this page, and all three have yet to pay, ignoring my past requests of them to kindly do so.

I've never gone public in mentioning their names, nor probably never will, with the exception of this post being somewhat of a clue.

Even though I paid Martin out of my pocket cash for his services, the three items sets on a shelf in his studio as a reminder to him of what possibly Bitcoin is all about. Slowly, but surely I've been changing his way of thinking, but what does he think when he sees threads like this one (of me or of Bitcoin)? Moreover, what do the newbies think when they see said threads? Bitcoins = Gambling = Gambling site owners deciding the outcome to their or some other's benefit?

This episode reeks on so many levels, and to think that a many bitcoiners tried coming to their rescue before this exploded, but to no avail.

pics of the leather products? and where is the rod through the frontal lobe on the avatar?

A leather thread does exist on this forum depicting one of the products with permission, whereas the other two no such permission exist, coupled with the designs would possibly give away as to whom they belong to. Apologies if this seems a cop-out answer, but it is what it is. Six-sided stars may or may not be a clue.

nuff said. and the rod in the frontal lobe?

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Quote from: Minor Miner on April 09, 2013, 06:14:17 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on April 09, 2013, 06:10:17 PM

Interesting that two of the three people who ordered custom leather products from my brother-in-law are mentioned on this page, and all three have yet to pay, ignoring my past requests of them to kindly do so.

I've never gone public in mentioning their names, nor probably never will, with the exception of this post being somewhat of a clue.

Even though I paid Martin out of my pocket cash for his services, the three items sets on a shelf in his studio as a reminder to him of what possibly Bitcoin is all about. Slowly, but surely I've been changing his way of thinking, but what does he think when he sees threads like this one (of me or of Bitcoin)? Moreover, what do the newbies think when they see said threads? Bitcoins = Gambling = Gambling site owners deciding the outcome to their or some other's benefit?

This episode reeks on so many levels, and to think that a many bitcoiners tried coming to their rescue before this exploded, but to no avail.

pics of the leather products? and where is the rod through the frontal lobe on the avatar?

A leather thread does exist on this forum depicting one of the products with permission, whereas the other two no such permission exist, coupled with the designs would possibly give away as to whom they belong to. Apologies if this seems a cop-out answer, but it is what it is. Six-sided stars may or may not be a clue.

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