Topic: COINLENDERS - REMAINING DEPOSITORS - page 9. (Read 17700 times)
Still in!
EDIT:
I would advice not to settle. At least 1300 were written off by this "so called settlement", another 900 were donated by TF to cover the loss.
There should be enough btc to get 50%+ of your balance back.
(I will edit this post later for more info)
I would advice not to settle. At least 1300 were written off by this "so called settlement", another 900 were donated by TF to cover the loss.
There should be enough btc to get 50%+ of your balance back.
(I will edit this post later for more info)
If you want to join a collective Class Action Opportunity: (Because hes stopped communicating/refunds of any kind)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3619427 Even if you have indicated interest, please pm me your email incase of updates/information requests.
Please let me know or voice your interest as it would need agreement from enough people to go ahead.
This is purely to indicate your interest at this stage.
If you do settle, PLEASE PM me or come post here. - also if your balance was NOT listed on dumbfruits old thread please say so when posting!
Due to the limited information being provided by TF - We are having to use the information available to decide whether this liquidation is "fair" - Determine your own meaning of the word fair. It is our responsibility to do this to determine as best we can if this was a horrible mistake or there is indeed foul play.
Or we can let this go 100% unchecked... But people have lost life changing amounts of money here. Yes we all make mistakes.
TF still claims to be working for the benefit of his users.
Yes, this does contain numerous assumptions but we are using the best available data - if you have evidence to the contrary please share it.
Most people who have already bailed based on the USD price will not all be updating the old thread with compensation amounts and the thread owner DumbFruit has also made a deal so I hope to collect information on the REMAINING deposit holders here.
What I want from you.
If you have not settled your balance then please re-state your current stake here or even better PM me. Anon unless you request otherwise. Will use bitcointalk names for simplicity. That's all I want, a tally of remaining deposit holders. We can keep the discussion on the old threads.
Please state whether your balance is with or without interest - Include both figures if you can. It all goes in the spreadsheet!
If for some reason you did not report your balance on the old thread. Let me know.
I have the intention of keeping this thread open until we have all settled or CL is reactivated for withdrawals.
Current Figures
Will keep these conservative so its more of a worst case - things in reality should be better.
Stolen from inputs: 4100
Returned to inputs: 900
Based on the 900 returned and the high % loss for anyone with more than 1 BTC in, I am going to assume that inputs deposits were in excess of 2100 BTC
Lets assume CL took a 2000 BTC hit when inputs was hacked although the reality is probably/hopefully better
CL Deposits:9202.24604006 (Based on original thread + late comers)
Remaining BTC: 6662.78260646(Based on remaining deposit holders)
Users: 119
ANON 592.75815201
Maximguns 531.87697838
Efflorescence 494.83919957
ANON 432.24268645
ANON 419.51475852
ANON 332.2162344
ANON 327.3652095
ANON 311.66244771
gene6098 299
ANON 281
bradyon 226
ANON 187.23324699
ANON 180.2545789
anon 135.487
tehelsper 122
ANON 112.13755308
ANON 102.13386171
ohyeahok 87.01269165
hwmax 86.93779676
Bobbycoolguy 80.3
RogerDodger 76.35819839
ANON 75.98128219
ninjaboon 75.23241838
tantanbit 72.59228854
ANON 70
ANON 57.90194877
ANON 51.04538754
mrtchipr 47
2kman 42.78068979
frankTurtle 40.80761587
ANON 32.15938119
snoo 32.15938119
sleger 30.85
ANON 29.12
goodtimes73 28.58
ANON 21
489593665 20.39441186
MaxwellsDemon 17.347
ANON 17
ace207 16.68791006
nsd 15.90443981
ANON 15.78
ANON 15.5
nzbmaster 15.00725711
ANON 13.79260958
ANON 13.56
Dougie 12.857412
ANON 12.18288021
TheSurge 11.94763347
ANON 10.77683827
ANON 10.68
qbitx 10.6
dunkbc 10.5627535
ANON 10.5627535
slider1978 10.24722147
flmbg 10.15
davecoin 10.0585973
gog1 9.80594344
ANON 9.71717801
ANON 9
ANON 8.98132612
ANON 8.71461123
Babylon 8.26874211
itsBusinessTime 8.25
ANON 8.18167164
ANON 8.10636761
ANON 7.95324553
TTagoo 7.64
InvalidSnack 7.53164008
ANON 7.29
ANON 7.12346971
ANON 7.01
C10H15N 6.00038338
ANON 5.36399611
ANON 5.25222261
fanchengjiao 5.089
scousesmoker 5.06
crazyhorse 5
ANON 5
halfawake 4.9513357
ANON 4.87462573
skitchen 4.25634855
ANON 4.22898497
gravity_boy 4.01865378
ANON 4
Dorpsgek 3.66
mobile 3.60187187
ezacarias 3.593
Xrim 3.5
ANON 3.37283512
ANON 3.05216879
ANON 3.04594144
ANON 3.0032
wayner 2.98
poolbath1 2.84476076
WHEELERSCW20000 2.56224724
hsharrison 2.43970326
HeRetiK 2.2776
ittyBTCy 2.24
goodhopes 2.08111701
ANON 2.04984745
thatbluedude 2
cyclops 1.8
ANON 1.70787314
bagbtrustee1 1.6306808
ANON 1.53732289
ANON 1.50595525
mxisaac 1.50021415
ANON 1.5
ahbartsch 1.42248624
ANON 1.21709771
The 4ner 1.1897
ASanerWorld 1.0902701
Funky Al 1.08
Simonsays 1.07027926
ANON 1.06033517
ANON 1.05
ANON 0.2996
Arcorann 0.00604688
We know TF has a large amount of funds in BTC. That is not up for debate. We have seen address's with large amounts of coins and he has begun pre-liquidation despite claims 100% of CL liquid funds are loaned and his personal stash used for inputs. (000's of BTC) There is a good chance he has amassed plenty of fiat in this time as well as he has a history of gambling - He did cash out in the high hundreds and buy back in the low seventies with CL money according to an old thread - scary.
Anyway, PLEASE let me know if you still have a stake in CL.
As a medium level investor, I would be willing to take a hair cut, to cover some of the costs. But 90+% That is unacceptable, Especially when we can see the losses from the hack have already been covered.
Legal Action
As TF has stopped communicating / vanished - It increases the possibility this was something of a ponzi scheme.
Either way, he isn't leaving creditors with many other options than to contact the authorities.
I am aware of various people working on various things which I won't post here but here is a "zero cost" option.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3700419
Potential drawbacks for me are - it might mean zero return for us, tf could hide any/all assets, he may have already left oz. But if you want to head over and drop your balance as a show of interest - these points will presumably be covered before it gets that far.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3619427 Even if you have indicated interest, please pm me your email incase of updates/information requests.
Please let me know or voice your interest as it would need agreement from enough people to go ahead.
This is purely to indicate your interest at this stage.
If you do settle, PLEASE PM me or come post here. - also if your balance was NOT listed on dumbfruits old thread please say so when posting!
Due to the limited information being provided by TF - We are having to use the information available to decide whether this liquidation is "fair" - Determine your own meaning of the word fair. It is our responsibility to do this to determine as best we can if this was a horrible mistake or there is indeed foul play.
Or we can let this go 100% unchecked... But people have lost life changing amounts of money here. Yes we all make mistakes.
if you would like to propose an alternate arrangement / settlement for your CL balance email me - I will agree if I believe this will benefit other CL creditors.
TF still claims to be working for the benefit of his users.
Yes, this does contain numerous assumptions but we are using the best available data - if you have evidence to the contrary please share it.
Most people who have already bailed based on the USD price will not all be updating the old thread with compensation amounts and the thread owner DumbFruit has also made a deal so I hope to collect information on the REMAINING deposit holders here.
What I want from you.
- Your CL Balance with and without interest
- Confirmation if you were or were not on the original thread
- Confirmation if you have or have not settled
- Confirmation if you are interested in legal action (if so provide a valid email id for updates/info requests)
If you have not settled your balance then please re-state your current stake here or even better PM me. Anon unless you request otherwise. Will use bitcointalk names for simplicity. That's all I want, a tally of remaining deposit holders. We can keep the discussion on the old threads.
Please state whether your balance is with or without interest - Include both figures if you can. It all goes in the spreadsheet!
If for some reason you did not report your balance on the old thread. Let me know.
I have the intention of keeping this thread open until we have all settled or CL is reactivated for withdrawals.
Current Figures
Will keep these conservative so its more of a worst case - things in reality should be better.
Stolen from inputs: 4100
Returned to inputs: 900
Based on the 900 returned and the high % loss for anyone with more than 1 BTC in, I am going to assume that inputs deposits were in excess of 2100 BTC
Lets assume CL took a 2000 BTC hit when inputs was hacked although the reality is probably/hopefully better
CL Deposits:9202.24604006 (Based on original thread + late comers)
Remaining BTC: 6662.78260646(Based on remaining deposit holders)
Users: 119
ANON 592.75815201
Maximguns 531.87697838
Efflorescence 494.83919957
ANON 432.24268645
ANON 419.51475852
ANON 332.2162344
ANON 327.3652095
ANON 311.66244771
gene6098 299
ANON 281
bradyon 226
ANON 187.23324699
ANON 180.2545789
anon 135.487
tehelsper 122
ANON 112.13755308
ANON 102.13386171
ohyeahok 87.01269165
hwmax 86.93779676
Bobbycoolguy 80.3
RogerDodger 76.35819839
ANON 75.98128219
ninjaboon 75.23241838
tantanbit 72.59228854
ANON 70
ANON 57.90194877
ANON 51.04538754
mrtchipr 47
2kman 42.78068979
frankTurtle 40.80761587
ANON 32.15938119
snoo 32.15938119
sleger 30.85
ANON 29.12
goodtimes73 28.58
ANON 21
489593665 20.39441186
MaxwellsDemon 17.347
ANON 17
ace207 16.68791006
nsd 15.90443981
ANON 15.78
ANON 15.5
nzbmaster 15.00725711
ANON 13.79260958
ANON 13.56
Dougie 12.857412
ANON 12.18288021
TheSurge 11.94763347
ANON 10.77683827
ANON 10.68
qbitx 10.6
dunkbc 10.5627535
ANON 10.5627535
slider1978 10.24722147
flmbg 10.15
davecoin 10.0585973
gog1 9.80594344
ANON 9.71717801
ANON 9
ANON 8.98132612
ANON 8.71461123
Babylon 8.26874211
itsBusinessTime 8.25
ANON 8.18167164
ANON 8.10636761
ANON 7.95324553
TTagoo 7.64
InvalidSnack 7.53164008
ANON 7.29
ANON 7.12346971
ANON 7.01
C10H15N 6.00038338
ANON 5.36399611
ANON 5.25222261
fanchengjiao 5.089
scousesmoker 5.06
crazyhorse 5
ANON 5
halfawake 4.9513357
ANON 4.87462573
skitchen 4.25634855
ANON 4.22898497
gravity_boy 4.01865378
ANON 4
Dorpsgek 3.66
mobile 3.60187187
ezacarias 3.593
Xrim 3.5
ANON 3.37283512
ANON 3.05216879
ANON 3.04594144
ANON 3.0032
wayner 2.98
poolbath1 2.84476076
WHEELERSCW20000 2.56224724
hsharrison 2.43970326
HeRetiK 2.2776
ittyBTCy 2.24
goodhopes 2.08111701
ANON 2.04984745
thatbluedude 2
cyclops 1.8
ANON 1.70787314
bagbtrustee1 1.6306808
ANON 1.53732289
ANON 1.50595525
mxisaac 1.50021415
ANON 1.5
ahbartsch 1.42248624
ANON 1.21709771
The 4ner 1.1897
ASanerWorld 1.0902701
Funky Al 1.08
Simonsays 1.07027926
ANON 1.06033517
ANON 1.05
ANON 0.2996
Arcorann 0.00604688
We know TF has a large amount of funds in BTC. That is not up for debate. We have seen address's with large amounts of coins and he has begun pre-liquidation despite claims 100% of CL liquid funds are loaned and his personal stash used for inputs. (000's of BTC) There is a good chance he has amassed plenty of fiat in this time as well as he has a history of gambling - He did cash out in the high hundreds and buy back in the low seventies with CL money according to an old thread - scary.
Anyway, PLEASE let me know if you still have a stake in CL.
As a medium level investor, I would be willing to take a hair cut, to cover some of the costs. But 90+% That is unacceptable, Especially when we can see the losses from the hack have already been covered.
Legal Action
As TF has stopped communicating / vanished - It increases the possibility this was something of a ponzi scheme.
Either way, he isn't leaving creditors with many other options than to contact the authorities.
I am aware of various people working on various things which I won't post here but here is a "zero cost" option.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3700419
Potential drawbacks for me are - it might mean zero return for us, tf could hide any/all assets, he may have already left oz. But if you want to head over and drop your balance as a show of interest - these points will presumably be covered before it gets that far.
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