Topic: ⚽🎮🎲 Coinplay.com | Brand New Crypto Sportsbook & Casino - page 4. (Read 6739 times)

how do you perform a "standard background check" on a brand new account? specially if you deposit through crypto, what kind of information can you get from running a "background check"? i dont think you should be able to withdraw 10k usd instantly, but i dont see a reason why you would need to go through several security checks after you place a withdrawal request of 300usd. plus, like i have stated before, KYC or "background checks" don't actually provide the casino with very useful information, its more of a tool to make sure you are who you claim to be, and that when they ban you, you cant comeback. when your account gets flagged, most likely it wasn't a casino employee manually looking at your bet history, it was triggered by an automated script that deemed you a "non profitable user" and the same you are trying to make money off the casino, they are doing the same to you. when you are no longer a source for them to profit from, they decide to limit/ban you. i might be wrong here, but i think you overestimate the power of "scammers" and "cheaters" at casinos.

as long as withdrawing funds from the casino does not exceed the specified limit, I don't think I will be asked for KYC verification like what I experienced.
and what we have to understand, the problem is that no matter how good the security at gambling is, sometimes there are leaks of customer personal data carried out by hackers or deliberately leaked by the casino employees themselves.

but if we as gamblers already believe in one of the casinos and want to take that risk, I don't think it's a problem.

Neither am I.

Trusted casinos do it for good but scam casinos do it for their own benefit not for user benefit.

I agree with you that casinos will go bankrupted very quickly, not within 2 years if they are not able to detect scammers and cheaters on their platforms. Especially nowadays with common use of bots, if serious holes are found by cheaters, they will exploit it very aggressively and force that casino to a verge of bankruptcy very quickly. Or if casinos reject to pay them, their reputation will be damaged.

I am not accusing any person of cheating. I am only telling everyone that a sportsbook or a casino would begin doing standard background checks on the account and certainly if the account is new. If a casino is not strict, does not do any background checks and sends the money to the user right away without questions, I reckon the casino will be a target for scammers, moneylaunderers and cheaters. The casino might also become bankrupt in 2 years hehehe.

i honestly can't understand people's mindset here.

doing kyc should never be the deciding factor between you getting banned/flagged for suspicious activity or not. in fact, i've come across a section of btctalk where there were people trying to buy ID docs (specifically proof of adress) so they can bypass KYC using someone else's data. how would a casino asking for KYC stop anything else but you creating another account with a VPN? you think having done KYC will save you AFTER they decice to ban you?

personally, i place almost 99% of my bets on esports, one of the easier types of sports to profit from, but i also constantly face constant liquidity issues and very limited event listings on most of the casinos (which makes sense given the higher average winrate for players). if i have a 70% winrate with an average of 2 odds, does that mean i'm a cheater and deserve to get banned? what if most of my bets are on mid/low tier events by the casino's standards? please explain to me how you could can say this person is "scamming" the casino when the player has no say on stake limits or event listings. i place bets on matches LISTED BY THE CASINO, with stake limits that THE CASINO CHOOSES.

when i see people getting banned and their winnings voided, i expect a valid reason. if you think im manipulating odds/placing bets of fixed matches, betting with inside info or whatever you want to call, there should be EVIDENCE BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT, nothing of the ToS violation bullshit. no casino should be able to get away with this shit and when i see people going "well, if you have been banned surely you were cheating" it just makes my brain hurt.

KYC on a trusted casino site is your biggest security.  Because if you don't do KYC you may face any problem in betting or withdrawing big amount. And a trusted casino site will never publish your KYC documents or use them for any other malicious purpose.  So in this case you can have no fear or doubt to do kyc on trusted site. So you can feel free to complete the verification by uploading the KYC documents on a trusted casino site.

I'm not saying there's a KYC problem here, but I'm saying that KYC at a trusted casino isn't a big problem as long as it's really needed. like when you want to withdraw large funds that exceed the maximum limit set by this casino and you are asked to send KYC to be able to withdraw all of your large funds.

although I have only been on CoinPlay a few times, I believe that this casino has no problems with withdrawals and KYC.

Problems can be big or small.

On trusted platforms, it is a smaller problem as at least they are not scammers and they won't require you to do KYC in order to steal your personal documents and at the end steal your money by reject your KYC submission. However it is still a problem because you never know how your documents will be secured, hacked, leaked in future. Again, you have to trust that platform security that can protect their data base including your documents.

On new platforms, it is a bigger problem as it's unknown that will they vanish to the air with your document and money. Other risks are as same as above description.

As a normal small user, you won't be able to and won't have enough time, finance to bring them to court when your document is leaked. Even you never know it happened or not.

KYC is definitely not a problem on a trusted classino site in this case coinplay has become very trusted and popular these days so I don't think kyc is a big problem here either. Coinplay has now started their marketing more actively and is trying hard to establish themselves as a major casino platform and they are quite successful. I have been using Coinplay for a few weeks now by completing kyc and feel very comfortable here.

KYC is done voluntarily, there is no compulsion to do KYC at one particular casino. do KYC at favorite casino and have good trust since long time ago, it's not a problem for me.

but it's up to each of us to do KYC or not. because I fully understand that there are also many anonymous gamblers who don't want to risk personal data to gambling platforms. besides there are also lots of KYC-free gambling out there that don't ask customers to do KYC when they want to withdraw any amount of money.

In this gambling industry there is no firm action against all casinos who often commit fraud, so they will continue to carry out their actions by deceiving many gamblers to be able to take easy and large profits.
If there is a law in the gambling industry that is able to follow up on cases of fraud committed by several scam casinos, maybe in the future there will never be any more fraudulent casinos in circulation.
But I'm not really sure there is a law that can follow up on scam casino cases until now because we can all see that those who are clearly fraudulent casinos can still continue to operate and there is only mention of a bad reputation against them without any action such as closing or removing the name of their casino from the list of crypto casinos.
These are serious problems that have been going on since then and there has been no good resolution about them.

They do have such detective system because if they don't have it but launch their platform, their platform will be exploited by cheaters in very short time.

Those systems are automated but they won't make decisions against any account based on automated decision making systems. They will do it manually by investigating collected data from their detective system. Sometimes decisions can be made quickly if violations are clear and serious. Sometimes they will observe for a while before taking action and terminate that account.

There are cheaters who try to cheat casinos with hope that their cheating activities will not be detected and they will get rewards from their intolerable cheating activities. Usually they failed and what do they often react after that?

They make scam accusations against casinos but surely theirs are not valid.

That is just the way scammers think, they are so used to getting away with their scams that they are always thinking for ways to scam everyone, and this includes casinos, and while it is unlikely they can get away with their scams for long, for many scammers this is enough to make a living out of it, then the casinos tightens up their security and then we are the ones that have to go through a more comprehensive verification when we did nothing wrong to deserve it.

When someone who is difficult to give advice from other people or from friends, he will be advised by circumstances.
For example, as you said, when a gambler wins big and still feels right in his decision, after that he enters a scam gambling trap and loses his money, he will only realize his mistake, which is difficult for his friends to advise him.
But however, as a friend who gives advice to a friend who seems to have to continue to give good advice so that person becomes better than later falling into addiction due to losing more money.

The casino has a system that can detect all suspicious activity and people who do suspicious things by the casino will be immediately marked, they understand that but still do it because they feel that the opportunity is still there to take advantage of the casino and will play as a victim when they get the opposite.

usually the casino is very quick to catch any action that wants to cheat the casino, so there really is no way to cheat the casino and people are still trying to do that there because casinos are places where lots of crypto money gather, I think stupid people are just wasting their time to find fast money by cheating casinos even though they can play to find wins and profits.

A gambler's gambling life goes awry when he doesn't get it despite his big winnings. There are many gamblers who don't listen to anything until their money is gone and when they lose it all they regret not listening to the advice. As warned in the forum about 1x bet I think after that if someone is cheated by betting then he is responsible for it. This casino has been completely banned by users on the forum.

any attempts that fraudsters use to cheat the casino will only end up in vain. maybe only a few times a certain casino has been tricked, but the casino has a team of reviewers or a team that is used in investigations that will track everything about fraud and will immediately make regulations or whatever it is to prevent other fraudsters from entering the casino.

in general terms that are often taken from these fraudsters are the bonuses given by the casino. they (fraudsters) will always look for casinos that provide a fair amount of bonuses and fraudsters will try any way they can to be able to deceive the casino. but unfortunately the casinos are smarter than con artists.

It is always weird if a new user created an account and shortly later won very big. It looks like that user is an expert in gambling and do know how to make exploitation on the casino.

I am sure if a winner falls into such type, a casino will do seriously consider KYC request before processing withdrawal that should be big.

That is true on all platforms. If you are a very old user and has very clean history, good reputation, it's a big support for your account and any accusation against you.

However, do you not reckon that in many occurences when the winner is a new account that has not yet passed all the KYC requirements, the casino should be very careful in giving a very big win without carefully checking all the details of the person? If it is an old account that has been gambling in the casino for years, there would certainly be a good argument.