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Topic: COINROYALE.COM • Provably Fair • 1 BTC Video Poker Tourney • 10% Casino Rebate - page 127. (Read 204069 times)

sr. member
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I am pleased to say that the "hands played" information was passed on to me this evening.  It is a ton of raw data and it may take longer than a day or 2 to go through it.  I want to give a thank you to the guys at Coinroyale for going through the hassle of getting all of that raw data.  I do not know the specifics of what has taken place since he told them about the bug. I am sure he will chime in at some point since he is the one that asked me to post it here.

I might be able to do this in seconds, if you are interested in help hit me up. Do you know his edge with the bug?

I'll follow your progress anyway, Interesting to see how many standard deviations he is losing by.
legendary
Activity: 2198
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Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Thanks for the explanation, I at least have an elementary understanding of how it works.  I am still waiting on Coin Royale to send the list of hands played and hope to have the results calculated out within a few days.  Thanks again.
I also hope it  gets cleared and your friend receives some compensation for finding the bug. Keep us informed.  Wink

If there is a bug he will get bug bounty , everybody who reported a valid bug received it.
legendary
Activity: 2478
Merit: 1360
Don't let others control your BTC -> self custody
Thanks for the explanation, I at least have an elementary understanding of how it works.  I am still waiting on Coin Royale to send the list of hands played and hope to have the results calculated out within a few days.  Thanks again.
I also hope it  gets cleared and your friend receives some compensation for finding the bug. Keep us informed.  Wink
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1414
The dealer seed is provided after the hand is played, which that in itself tells me that the game IS NOT provably fair.

The dealer's seed is provided after the hand is played to ensure fairness. Player would know the outcome of the game if the seed is provided before the game therefore the house hash the initial deck in form of SHA-256 (which is the combination of the server seed as well as the initial deck) Before you start the game, you are shown the hash for the next game and you are free to input your own seed , simply copy the SHA hash and verify it when you think something is fishy ( there are verifier on the site )

Code:
var initialDeck = ["Ah","2h","3h","4h","5h"];
var playerSeed = "lucky";
var seedSHA = sha256.hex(playerSeed);
var seedInt = parseInt(seedSHA.slice(-8), 16);
var mersenneTwister = new MersenneTwister(seedInt);
var finalDeck = fisherYatesShuffle(initialDeck,
                             mersenneTwister);
console.log(finalDeck);

Or simply use that if you dont want to trust the verifier on the site ( which should generate the same result ). The code above is taken from their provably fair pages btw

From my perspective it looks like the dealer seed or "salt" could be changed to find a suitable set of cards that favor the house without ever changing the Player seed.

Correct, that is why you are shown the hashed seed before you start the game to ensure fairness that the house wont be able cheat you unknowingly. The good thing about using this hashed seed is that if the house attempted to change it, the player will know exactly that it has been change . Therefore if you want to verify this, simply copy the hashed seed before the start of the game and double check it after the card is dealt
legendary
Activity: 2198
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Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I didnt get any welcome bonus,  they're kdding

You have to use WELCOMEBTC bonus code before you make deposit.

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If the bonus code was entered correctly (and your deposit was successful) your bonus will be credited to your account. You’ll be able to view your bonus code details and your bonus progression on the ‘Bonus Programs’ page.

Bonus is released in 0.01BTC increments
hero member
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I didnt get any welcome bonus,  they're kdding
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1014
Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I've never won anything from bitcoin gambling, no matter the site or the amount. Skill games or luck games. Gambling = lose all your $ imo

You can win @CoinRoyale blackjack but do not rely on intuition use strategy and charts avaliable online

My deposit is pending after 5 confirmations?

The site must be using Blockchain.info API since they are glitched out right now too.

They use their own Bitcoin server.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
I've never won anything from bitcoin gambling, no matter the site or the amount. Skill games or luck games. Gambling = lose all your $ imo

All gambling site is need of some luck, amount is only thing you need to boost your luck here, with a great amount you may win some cash but remember of greediness that will lead you to end of your cash. So it doesnt matter when you lose or win if you enjoy the game it will be fun though  Grin
It is actually important that people don’t think that they can win, because you can't win in gambling! You can win for a little while but you can't win in the long run.
House always win, that is the truth of gambling. You won't be able to earn money, you can have lucky game or two, but not 100 in a row.
legendary
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Merit: 1123
CoinRoyale.com
My deposit is pending after 5 confirmations?

Sorry about that. Should be fixed now. We had some delay on our own bitcoin server.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1000
I've never won anything from bitcoin gambling, no matter the site or the amount. Skill games or luck games. Gambling = lose all your $ imo

All gambling site is need of some luck, amount is only thing you need to boost your luck here, with a great amount you may win some cash but remember of greediness that will lead you to end of your cash. So it doesnt matter when you lose or win if you enjoy the game it will be fun though  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1009
I've never won anything from bitcoin gambling, no matter the site or the amount. Skill games or luck games. Gambling = lose all your $ imo
You can win a lot if you're good at skill games! why most people lose cause once they get on a winning streak they keep on playing for more and more profits they need to stop at right time before they lose all their Bitcoins. If you can stop at the right time then you're a winner. Roll Eyes
newbie
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I've never won anything from bitcoin gambling, no matter the site or the amount. Skill games or luck games. Gambling = lose all your $ imo
newbie
Activity: 43
Merit: 0
My deposit is pending after 5 confirmations?

The site must be using Blockchain.info API since they are glitched out right now too.
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1186
Showing a cold wallet address doesn't mean anything as the shady operator can still choose not to payout. We have been around for 1+ years (closer to 2 years) and never have any unresolved withdrawal issues. Our reputation speaks louder than anything.

What do you have to lose? There is no issue showing the cold storage right?

Looks like he answered you very well there. Just showing a cold storage address also doesn't mean that if they have the funds then they will pay you . It all comes down to how much you trust the site and how long it has been there.

Agreed. Coinroyale runs a really nice site and from my experiences they are trust worthy and fair. Every outcome is provable and cashouts are instant. I don't get why people want to see a cold storage address??  Huh
newbie
Activity: 43
Merit: 0
My deposit is pending after 5 confirmations?
hero member
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Showing a cold wallet address doesn't mean anything as the shady operator can still choose not to payout. We have been around for 1+ years (closer to 2 years) and never have any unresolved withdrawal issues. Our reputation speaks louder than anything.

What do you have to lose? There is no issue showing the cold storage right?

Looks like he answered you very well there. Just showing a cold storage address also doesn't mean that if they have the funds then they will pay you . It all comes down to how much you trust the site and how long it has been there.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
I created my account and used the forum100 code, well I deposited my coin after clicking activate on the promo and it did not credit me nor did it stay activated.

Coinroyale has different terms of bonuses. The bonus is not credited instantly after you made deposit, but it is partially released within the wagering process. Means that you will get the bonus after play several games.
Example : deposit 0.1btc , the rollover requirement is 35x for 100% deposit bonus. So the formula would be like this :
0.1btc x 35 rollover = 3.5btc wager for 0.1btc bonus. It means that you will get 0.001btc for every 0.035 wagered.


awesome, thank you for this information!
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 1354
I created my account and used the forum100 code, well I deposited my coin after clicking activate on the promo and it did not credit me nor did it stay activated.

Coinroyale has different terms of bonuses. The bonus is not credited instantly after you made deposit, but it is partially released within the wagering process. Means that you will get the bonus after play several games.
Example : deposit 0.1btc , the rollover requirement is 35x for 100% deposit bonus. So the formula would be like this :
0.1btc x 35 rollover = 3.5btc wager for 0.1btc bonus. It means that you will get 0.001btc for every 0.035 wagered.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
I created my account and used the forum100 code, well I deposited my coin after clicking activate on the promo and it did not credit me nor did it stay activated.
sr. member
Activity: 277
Merit: 255
Showing a cold wallet address doesn't mean anything as the shady operator can still choose not to payout. We have been around for 1+ years (closer to 2 years) and never have any unresolved withdrawal issues. Our reputation speaks louder than anything.

What do you have to lose? There is no issue showing the cold storage right?HuhHuh?
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