Topic: Colonizing Mars (Read 4683 times)
One meteor impact = gg
I think first of all we need to create a machine that can terraform the planet. Then, we need to create a spaceship that can go faster from here to Mars to give resources to Mars residents. And then, i think, we should colonize Mars (as long as there are no signs of life on that planet).
As for the Moon, i think we should keep it as a International scientific facility, not as a residential area.
As for the Moon, i think we should keep it as a International scientific facility, not as a residential area.
I`d still stay on this earth.
Despite its dying and what not lol.
Despite its dying and what not lol.
Haven't you seen "Total Recall"? Don't you know how this ends? 
Yeah there is Martians, pyramids, a sphinx mountain, and shit.
If people go there they fucking stay there. No coming back with Martian crabs.
Haven't you seen "Total Recall"? Don't you know how this ends?
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I'm a bit worried about them going all Lord of the Flies on each other though. The initial group is going to be might small and mighty isolated for a long time...
You mean forever. It's a one-way trip. Not enough women for hooking up, fights, insanity...bad things could happen with the human psyche when he knows he will NEVER get home. IIRC - Venus is supposedly a better choice than Mars. Venus was arguably Earth until the greenhouse effect went out of control. Once we know how to fix the greenhouse thing on Earth, we can presumably do the same on Venus. The downside to Venus is the weaker magnetic field and the rotation cycle but it's a better candidate than Mars.
Besides greenhouse in Venus, how can you survive its atmospheric pressure. It's acid rain. Mars is more habitable than Venus. Mars need little terraforming than Venus.
Not really - there's virtually no atmosphere on Mars (unless you believe the conspiracy theories that there are forests and lakes on Mars) and I don't think there's enough frozen gases on the surface to create one.
Venus on the other hand has gravity similiar to Earth and there are many theories on how we can remove the greenhouse and restart the magnetic field. It doesn't even need to be high tech. Bombarding the crap out of Venus with nuclear missiles would probably freeze a lot of the greenhouse effect (or destroy it) and several centuries later we would have a life habitable planet for earth algae and basic organisms.
IIRC - Venus is supposedly a better choice than Mars. Venus was arguably Earth until the greenhouse effect went out of control. Once we know how to fix the greenhouse thing on Earth, we can presumably do the same on Venus. The downside to Venus is the weaker magnetic field and the rotation cycle but it's a better candidate than Mars.
Besides greenhouse in Venus, how can you survive its atmospheric pressure. It's acid rain. Mars is more habitable than Venus. Mars need little terraforming than Venus.
If you are ready to live on Mars then many places on Earth might be a good alternative to this. Try southern parts of Argentina or Northern Siberia. Maybe make man made colonies. There is all kinds of art about this written by people at Nasa in the 1960s. They predicted that we could have these things in orbit by the late 1980s. Ha ha ha.
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There is nothing like living in Mars. Humanity living only in earth is like putting humanities eggs in one basket. It only take one asteroid to slam earth, one mega volcano, one global war for humanity to go extinct.
If all funds channeled to military, useless coldwar it is ten times more than enough to go to mars and establish human colonies in space.
IIRC - there are $97 Trillion in investments and another $400 trillion in derivatives.
NASA budget 2014: $18 billion.
Military Budget: $500+ billion
Dot Com bubble $7 trillion at its' peak (sure most of it was a scam but now we have the internet as we know it)
Housing bubble $10 trillion
We would be in Alpha Centuri right now if we had trillions dedicated to space exploration. . . but greed is such that people rather dump their money on the internet, in overvalued houses, et al. Throwing $50 million dollar missiles to blow up a $50 shack in Iraq. Et al.
If you are ready to live on Mars then many places on Earth might be a good alternative to this. Try southern parts of Argentina or Northern Siberia. Maybe make man made colonies. There is all kinds of art about this written by people at Nasa in the 1960s. They predicted that we could have these things in orbit by the late 1980s. Ha ha ha.
sdp
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There is nothing like living in Mars. Humanity living only in earth is like putting humanities eggs in one basket. It only take one asteroid to slam earth, one mega volcano, one global war for humanity to go extinct.
If all funds channeled to military, useless coldwar it is ten times more than enough to go to mars and establish human colonies in space.
IIRC - Venus is supposedly a better choice than Mars. Venus was arguably Earth until the greenhouse effect went out of control. Once we know how to fix the greenhouse thing on Earth, we can presumably do the same on Venus. The downside to Venus is the weaker magnetic field and the rotation cycle but it's a better candidate than Mars.
If you are ready to live on Mars then many places on Earth might be a good alternative to this. Try southern parts of Argentina or Northern Siberia. Maybe make man made colonies. There is all kinds of art about this written by people at Nasa in the 1960s. They predicted that we could have these things in orbit by the late 1980s. Ha ha ha.
sdp
sdp
While it would be cool to colonise Mars, it seems impractical due to Mars been completely barren and would require some sort of terraforming to make it a viable option. Also did anyone see that crowd funded Mars mission proposal that offered budding astronauts a one way ticket to Mars LOL 
. I'm very interested to see if any of this will happen within my lifetime though.
. I'm very interested to see if any of this will happen within my lifetime though.
Marscoin!
To the Martian Moon!
To the Martian Moon!
For people that grown up reading tales of science fiction, this reality is very disappointing.
I guess no author of the sixties would imagine how little we would accomplish after 1969 in space exploration. Any trip to mars currently is still just a dream.
Colonization? Probably, none of us will see it. Maybe our sons or grandsons.
I guess no author of the sixties would imagine how little we would accomplish after 1969 in space exploration. Any trip to mars currently is still just a dream.
Colonization? Probably, none of us will see it. Maybe our sons or grandsons.
I'm a bit worried about them going all Lord of the Flies on each other though. The initial group is going to be might small and mighty isolated for a long time...
Dogechode, no worries for getting there in a timely manner. As someone else mentioned before, Mars One is already well into the selection process. Nasa is moving more and more toward SpaceShipOne while shutting down (at least for now) their shuttle launches. Virgin Galactic is teasing us with space ports and commercial space flight. Things are a lot more interesting now then they were 10 years ago. Another 10 years into the future we might even see perhaps commercial space flight as a booming industry. Great time to be alive to be honest. Star Trek, Star Wars and other movies portrayed the human race as a star faring species and this has captured our imagination. I've always wandered though what the middle step would be like, that moment when humans start to slowly raise our eyes to the sky and venture more and more into outer space. It looks like 2015-2025 might be a very interesting period. A great time to sit back, get some popcorn and enjoy the view 
Nthunder, I agree but my concern is that the more we find intermediary projects to focus on, the more we ultimately delay colonizing Mars. They could spend decades perfecting underwater colonies before much of the work would be perfected to the point of being applicable to planetary colonization. Underwater colonies would mitigate some of the risk of the human race being wiped out in the event of some catastrophic events, but not all. They would also seem to be highly vulnerable to certain underwater events (what happens if there is an earthquake or other seismic event in the area?)
As far as life on Mars, precautions should be taken but I think the odds of finding life there (let alone hostile life) now are very low given the environment conditions. Evidence of former life? Perhaps.
In any event, the rovers there now will likely find clues if there is anything moving around up there...
As far as life on Mars, precautions should be taken but I think the odds of finding life there (let alone hostile life) now are very low given the environment conditions. Evidence of former life? Perhaps.
In any event, the rovers there now will likely find clues if there is anything moving around up there...
Colonizing Mars is quite a challenge. Maybe a first step would be to colonize the oceans and then take that technology to other planets. It might be easier this way because a lot of the challenges you face on another planet (hostile environment, atmosphere, isolation) you can find in the deep here on Earth. And when you had enough you can always come back to the surface whereas on another planet transportation might be a bit more tricky.
The biggest challenges on Mars are probably pressure (the atmosphere on Mars is very thin), magnetic field (protects from cosmic radiation), atmosphere (terraforming perhaps).
Another big issue might be indigenous life. Throughout Earth's history there have been multiple (132 to be more precise) small meteors that landed here on Earth that came from Mars. It is concisely possible that the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs (or another one perhaps) projected a piece of rock from Earth to Mars containing Earth microbes or bacteria. These can be either dormant or active and they can pose a big hazard to humans (having their evolutionary paths so different from our).
The biggest challenges on Mars are probably pressure (the atmosphere on Mars is very thin), magnetic field (protects from cosmic radiation), atmosphere (terraforming perhaps).
Another big issue might be indigenous life. Throughout Earth's history there have been multiple (132 to be more precise) small meteors that landed here on Earth that came from Mars. It is concisely possible that the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs (or another one perhaps) projected a piece of rock from Earth to Mars containing Earth microbes or bacteria. These can be either dormant or active and they can pose a big hazard to humans (having their evolutionary paths so different from our).
isn't there a different source for this article it is asking for a log in to be able to read the whole article
Anyway http://www.planetaryresources.com/ was the project and it's still underway from what I'm seeing
Anyway http://www.planetaryresources.com/ was the project and it's still underway from what I'm seeing
That is really strange it showed the whole article the first time I looked at it but now if I go back it asks for login. Hmmm.... Basically said they have changed their plan and are not really trying to harvest rare minerals from asteroids to bring to Earth anymore (at this time.)
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