Topic: Colonizing Mars - page 9. (Read 4683 times)

I'm sure if they don't already realise they're not coming back they will very soon. I also think it wont work. People can go insane quite quickly in space and loose their shit.

My main concern about the Mars One mission is just that. I think they may have a real lord of the flies situation once a small handful of people get up there, and start to realize there is no practical way for anyone to restrain them from doing whatever they damn well please. I think a starter colony should be a much larger group to help mitigate this, but then it gets prohibitively expensive...

There are some groups that do "Mars" training by having people live in special facilities in desert/tundra regions and a large part of the rationale behind it is to explore the psychological effects of isolation, being trapped indoors for extended periods of time, etc.

I'm really starting to think he is just a troll but it's hard to tell the difference between them and straight-up morons.

Dude, seriously. Whoever taught you grammar should be drawn and quartered...



Please troll elsewhere. Really I doubt that anyone cares about your ranting at this point.

Oh yeah, that's it haha.


This guy doesn't do rational arguments nor does he know the difference between fact and opinion. See this post and the following ones after it for mindblowing ignorance: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6285147

I think most of the participants haven't full realized that they are going on a one way ticket. Meaning they will stay there for the rest of their lives. For the first two years there will be only 4 people on the base as well. Someone of them is definitely going to go nuts and kill everyone up there...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10546779/Mars-mission-selection-to-be-reality-TV-show.html

Of course you won't be wasting any more effort indulging me, since so far you didn't present a single counter argument against the fact I presented, this is not about I can argue better or wining some arguments (it's not like they are distributing some prizes if someone does so) , trust me, I don't really care about that and when I don't know about something I just ask, it's just that happen, that I have a scientific background, and Mars missions is one of the things that fascinate me, and that when I first heard about Mars One a few years ago, I was pretty excited and tried to get the maximum of informations and what I've presented is the current states of thing.

I assume you are referring to Mars One? That is what we have been talking about lol.

There's some kind of Mars reality show in the works apparently. Not sure how feasible or if it'll actually happen though.

Vod he was actually arguing that it might NOT be popular because of the cultural changes that have happened since then (ie people are more interested in watching stupid shit than anything of scientific merit now.)

I disagree, I think it would be popular just because it has never been done before. Also, sci-fi stuff is immensely popular nowadays.

I think you are bang on.  The moon landing was one of the most watched programs in TV history.

As I said I'm not going to waste any more effort indulging you.

Moving right along - they are hosting the "Humans 2 Mars" conference right now in Washington DC to discuss manned missions to Mars: http://www.space.com/25587-manned-mars-missions-conference-webcasts.html

And what's wrong with that? I've explained the same thing 4 times before "simplifying it" (and that's what the sentence you are quoting is all about) there is nothing wrong with what I said there.

I did not apply I affirm : They DO NOT have the means nor the expertise to do it and if you think otherwise you are invited to prove me wrong.
The way they are doing things is the following : They will do a concept study and design while at the same time doing simulations (being it training crew and simulating the Mars environment on earth) Once this phase is done and the concrete study and real concept design are made, these will be proposed to partners,  and from there the project will either progress to reality or will be scraped if it if deemed infeasible or unrealistic, if the project is deemed feasible and partners are willing to put their resources into the project, then you'll see things moving from concept to reality, building stuff will start, ect.

I'm not shitting on Mars One, I'm presenting the reality and the current state of the project with facts that you don't want to accept here and you are avoiding to discuss.

And you are really confusing what I'm saying here, I'm not saying that Mars One will not bring people to Mars please reread my comments before advancing such thing: All I'm saying is that, right now, Mars One is just a study design project right now, no more no less, and once that phase is done, and unless the study and concept designs are deemed serious by the partners that have the resources being it technical or material for such a project and willing to contribute on such basis it will not happen.

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Anyways I'm not going to keep indulging you. You implied that they did not have the means to get to Mars so I pointed out very clearly that they have a plan and a specific spacecraft in mind. One which is being produced by a very strong company.

I'm not going to sit here and debate with you whether they will succeed or not, you obviously aren't interested in having any sort of rational discussion about this you just want to keep shitting on Mars One without any real legitimate reason.

Ten years from now we could show you a video of the first team members to land on Mars and you'll be sitting there foaming at the mouth screaming "THEY FAKED IT, THEY FAKED IT!"

What's wrong with my attitude? I've only explained to you facts you are refusing to accept, I don't recall myself being disrespectful or insulting in any of my replies. I know my fact, because not only I've done my reading but I understand the technical aspect behind it.


I mean seriously you are quoting all these, and you fail to gasp that there is nothing in here a part from Vaporware and dreams? what if they visited space agencies to discuss stuff with scientist? don't you see that in everything you quoted the words that keeps repeating them selfs are anticipate, will probably be this or that...ect (nothing certain, nothing is real, nothing is ready yet, they are doing the study)

The so called Mars Transit vehicle is an imaginary vehicle, it does not exist, it doesn't even have a proper draft design yet, and they are working on it, the whole 500K$ they have is being used for design and design studies, Once this phase done, and they have a proper concept design, with everything included, from risk management to every single problem solution design with real assets then at that time we can talk about partner and partnership.

Also what if SpaceX CEO is a billionaire, it's not his project, and he is not an investor in the project, SpaceX expressed their interest and whilling to help with technical details (it's good marketing and potential commercial opportunity for them if the project succeed)  like many other partner of the project, doesn't mean they invest billions of dollars.

do you think it would be possible if we did have a settlement, and there was a reality-type TV show, that it wouldn't be epically popular? i think the world has gotten so dumb (especially the us govt) that the show wouldn't be a hit to the majority of the world.

i don't mean to bitch, but it seems like people in this country are no longer inspired by science, life, art, people, and the mysteries of the cosmos. wasn't it different in the 60's? our media wasn't so inundated with junk/noise... and people actually cared about these things. hell, even in the 80's during the height of carl sagan's popularity.. kids would actually watch this shit and be WOWED by it. today, at the age of 8, you have a bunch of kids with smartphones, tweeting and watching lady gaga wear a meat dress.. that's what "inspires them." we are getting dumber as a people.. how the fuck can that actually happen when we're so much more technologically advanced?

lol, i will stop the rant here.. sorry for derailing this topic.

They are doing exactly that. Mars One is making a reality show out of it.

Also guys, SpaceX will want to do this because they want to get more business. If their ship succeeds for these missions they will have a line of customers a mile long. Think about it...

The whole thing is just Bullshit PR. The kind of money and resources they are raising is not even close to what you require for a realistic mars colony

It will fail or be delayed by another decade or two

Not quite true - they have started the astronaut selection process and started the PR blitz they will need to succeed.