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Quote from: dogechode on May 13, 2014, 12:33:28 PM

I don't think there is a need to bring the asteroids into the Earth's atmosphere to mine them.

But, it looks like the main company that was seriously looking into doing this has decided to go in a different direction for now:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303417104579544072639525550

isn't there a different source for this article it is asking for a log in to be able to read the whole article

Anyway http://www.planetaryresources.com/ was the project and it's still underway from what I'm seeing

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I don't think there is a need to bring the asteroids into the Earth's atmosphere to mine them.

But, it looks like the main company that was seriously looking into doing this has decided to go in a different direction for now:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303417104579544072639525550

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If the mission will start after 10 or even 20 years, I'll probably see It and I'm really excited about that, that would be such a historical phase. And the people that are going to fly to the mars wont be just regular people, in the mean while they are trained and at the start of the mission they'll be researchers and they will research a lot of things on mars their self.

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Hmm I read an article somewhere saying that gold came from outerspace and asteroids, but if this was true wont material get burnt up in the atomosphere before it hits the ground, you will need it to be a doomsday asteroid if you wanted to collect some good material.

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I think this is all coming a lot sooner than most of you think. Like in the next 10 years or so.

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Quote from: bumblebeee on May 11, 2014, 10:26:44 AM

Its great, we can travel in space and all these things.

But realistically, when we do it id be dead.

lol. Depends how far you want to go into space. I'm sure there'll be proper commerical orbital space flights within our generation. They might not be affordable for everyone, bu if you start saving now you might make it lol

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Its great, we can travel in space and all these things.

But realistically, when we do it id be dead.

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I don't think that colonizing Mars is going to happen soon. As long as it is commercially unprofitable we won't see Mars soon, at least non-billionaires. But idea is great-it would give a chance to some people to start their own business and will create a lot of working places!

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Mining asteroids still sounds like pure science fiction to me. I wonder how far were actually away from doing it?

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Quote from: Snorek on May 06, 2014, 09:53:39 AM

Asteroid mining wont be as effective as planet mining because of the characteristic of asteroids .We need to know when and where exactly an asteroid will be at certain time, what king of minerals are there on the current available asteroid, etc.

What if the Asteroid contains something that is very rare on Earth and (possibly) rare in the star system? Wouldn't you want to mine that? This might happen sooner than we all think.

What could be found on an asteriod that cant be found on a planet? There wont be any gases I dont think.

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Can't help but think of Armageddon lol.

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Quote from: Snorek on May 06, 2014, 09:53:39 AM

Asteroid mining wont be as effective as planet mining because of the characteristic of asteroids .We need to know when and where exactly an asteroid will be at certain time, what king of minerals are there on the current available asteroid, etc.

What if the Asteroid contains something that is very rare on Earth and (possibly) rare in the star system? Wouldn't you want to mine that? This might happen sooner than we all think.

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There are already companies getting ready to attempt asteroid mining fairly soon. I think it's going to happen way sooner than mining from Mars.

Asteroid mining seems like it would involve some amount of trial and error and guesswork. I doubt they are going to wait until they can somehow precisely calculate exactly what the makeup of an asteroid is. Think of it more like gold prospecting before the advent of modern technology.

As far as intercepting the asteroid... that is child's play at this point. And it has already be done multiple times as the above posted mentioned.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on May 06, 2014, 10:14:42 AM

Is mining asteroids actually even possible? I'm no expert but I can't fathom how landing on a asteroid whizzing though space can be achieved. Seems very risky and dangerous too. Maybe I'll have to check out the science behind the movie Armageddon Grin

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Well on 12 February 2001 a probe landed on an asteroid (called Eros if I'm not mistaken)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEAR_Shoemaker

In November 2005 a unmanned spacecraft called Hayabusa landed on another asteroid called Itokawa. On 13 June 2010 the Hayabusa managed to land on Earth bringing back some samples from Itokawa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayabusa

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Quote from: Snorek on May 06, 2014, 09:53:39 AM

Quote from: dogechode on May 06, 2014, 08:40:40 AM

Quote from: Snorek on May 06, 2014, 07:13:52 AM

I'm afraid that Mars will be used as an mining platform, if in years to come we will establish a base (and I mean a big one like for several thousand people). The colonization of the Mars will still be impossible (lack atmosphere), so instead we will be gathering resources and sending them back to Earth.

I don't think that is a huge risk at the moment because bringing anything back from Mars is prohibitively expensive and difficult. Eventually we may develop ways of doing it economically but at that point I think asteroid mining will be just as lucrative. Also, anything we develop that would allow mined materials to be easily transported from Mars to Earth, would seemingly also make it cost-effective to transport a ton of stuff from Earth to Mars.

While I'm not particularly in favor of it, I don't think mining a bit of minerals from Mars would destroy the planet. We have been mining the Earth for thousands of years have we not?

Asteroid mining wont be as effective as planet mining because of the characteristic of asteroids .We need to know when and where exactly an asteroid will be at certain time, what king of minerals are there on the current available asteroid, etc.

Is mining asteroids actually even possible? I'm no expert but I can't fathom how landing on a asteroid whizzing though space can be achieved. Seems very risky and dangerous too. Maybe I'll have to check out the science behind the movie Armageddon Grin

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Quote from: dogechode on May 06, 2014, 08:40:40 AM

Quote from: Snorek on May 06, 2014, 07:13:52 AM

I'm afraid that Mars will be used as an mining platform, if in years to come we will establish a base (and I mean a big one like for several thousand people). The colonization of the Mars will still be impossible (lack atmosphere), so instead we will be gathering resources and sending them back to Earth.

I don't think that is a huge risk at the moment because bringing anything back from Mars is prohibitively expensive and difficult. Eventually we may develop ways of doing it economically but at that point I think asteroid mining will be just as lucrative. Also, anything we develop that would allow mined materials to be easily transported from Mars to Earth, would seemingly also make it cost-effective to transport a ton of stuff from Earth to Mars.

While I'm not particularly in favor of it, I don't think mining a bit of minerals from Mars would destroy the planet. We have been mining the Earth for thousands of years have we not?

Asteroid mining wont be as effective as planet mining because of the characteristic of asteroids .We need to know when and where exactly an asteroid will be at certain time, what king of minerals are there on the current available asteroid, etc.

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Quote from: dogechode on May 06, 2014, 08:40:40 AM

Quote from: Snorek on May 06, 2014, 07:13:52 AM

I'm afraid that Mars will be used as an mining platform, if in years to come we will establish a base (and I mean a big one like for several thousand people). The colonization of the Mars will still be impossible (lack atmosphere), so instead we will be gathering resources and sending them back to Earth.

I don't think that is a huge risk at the moment because bringing anything back from Mars is prohibitively expensive and difficult. Eventually we may develop ways of doing it economically but at that point I think asteroid mining will be just as lucrative. Also, anything we develop that would allow mined materials to be easily transported from Mars to Earth, would seemingly also make it cost-effective to transport a ton of stuff from Earth to Mars.

While I'm not particularly in favor of it, I don't think mining a bit of minerals from Mars would destroy the planet. We have been mining the Earth for thousands of years have we not?

What's there to destroy exactly? It's just a planet of rock. It's not like we can fuck up the habitat and ozone. It looks like one big quarry and planet that was made to be mined Grin

, but it's going to be a very long time if ever before it is either cost-effective or actually even feasible.

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Quote from: Snorek on May 06, 2014, 07:13:52 AM

I'm afraid that Mars will be used as an mining platform, if in years to come we will establish a base (and I mean a big one like for several thousand people). The colonization of the Mars will still be impossible (lack atmosphere), so instead we will be gathering resources and sending them back to Earth.

I don't think that is a huge risk at the moment because bringing anything back from Mars is prohibitively expensive and difficult. Eventually we may develop ways of doing it economically but at that point I think asteroid mining will be just as lucrative. Also, anything we develop that would allow mined materials to be easily transported from Mars to Earth, would seemingly also make it cost-effective to transport a ton of stuff from Earth to Mars.

While I'm not particularly in favor of it, I don't think mining a bit of minerals from Mars would destroy the planet. We have been mining the Earth for thousands of years have we not?

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I'm afraid that Mars will be used as an mining platform, if in years to come we will establish a base (and I mean a big one like for several thousand people). The colonization of the Mars will still be impossible (lack atmosphere), so instead we will be gathering resources and sending them back to Earth.

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Quote from: Lauda on May 02, 2014, 06:40:36 AM

Quote from: kuroman on May 02, 2014, 04:43:02 AM

Mars is fine as it is right now, but when you'll either render it Venus like due to pollution or render you destroy due to some thermo nuclear or biohazard shit and make it impossible for any percpective of life then we are talking about what we human can do with our stupidity Sad

We won't further destroy Mars because we need it for further advancement into the Galaxy.

Sadly reaching Mars is one thing (as it achievable with near future technology if the resources and political power is put in place to do such a thing) but the rest of the galaxy is not happening anytime soon, it takes 10 months to reach Mars in it closest orbit to earth, an almost 3 years to do a round trip, to reach Jupiter it is 6 years ......ect to reach the star system Proxima centauri which is the closest star system to earth, it takes 80000+ years with our current technology
It's a several centuries if not mileniea challenge Sad

Quote from: ShibaWow on May 02, 2014, 06:38:59 AM

if he haven't destroyed Earth yet what makes you think we would destroy Mars

it's good for human race to be stationed on more planets in case an asteroid destroys Earth Cheesy

we didn't yet, but we are destroying it right now, being it directly or indirectly, directly but destroying whole ecosystem deforestations, destroying it resources ... and indirectly by pollution and global warming, not to mention that whole areas were destroyed by nuclear tests and accidents and more to come as nuclear power plants are getting older and older, not to mention other risks being it biological ones or technological ones....

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Mars is a stepping stone and a solution to some of our problems on Earth. Ultimately the Earth can only sustain so many human beings at a time, and most cultures don't seem to be particularly keen on enforcing any population controls (China's 1-child policy was basically globally condemned for years as repressive) so eventually we will need more space and resources.

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