Topic: Community generated suggestions to improve the forum (+ eventual voting on them) - page 14. (Read 26835 times)

What do you think if the login form has two steps like email login on google if the 2FA system hasn't been implemented? And the Forgot your password? link is on this page (password form after a username is valid). This thing can prevent random password injection.

And once again when Forgot your password? To use, enter the username/email there. For email I've tried an email that has not been registered in the provider and was successful, this is very risky. to overcome this, I agree with @hilariousetc's idea.

I disagree.  I think that's a huge obstacle overall.  Maybe not for some, but in general a lot of noobs are going to have a hard time getting that one merit.  This might lead to more begging and/or trading, but I think it's worth it.

Very nice that these suggestions are being compiled, and I can't wait to vote on them.  I'm pretty much all for making new members sing for their supper here, since that's basically what it comes down to in most cases.  Good job, hilariousetc.

Agreed.  I don't think "earned merits" being explicitly shown is necessary or even desirable.

I did say it was a small one, heh.  I know that there are plenty of more urgent things to consider and don't want to detract from any of that. 



But you also need to know what rank the user was when the system was introduced.  That might be simple enough to do now in some cases (keeping in mind that some have already ranked up, so it's not always obvious), but in future, it's not going to be easy at all.  Again, using the OP as an example, when hilariousetc does rank up to Legendary, some people might assume they started with 1000 and only earned 80 merits.  It's not representative of their phenomenal efforts here.

Man, look at the number of critical issues that should be taken care on priority! How hard it is to calculate the Default Merits - Earned Merits? You literally just have to know the default numbers for 5 ranks. This is something can be added on the merit page for deep analysis.

Liking most of these suggestions.  One small [//EDIT: very minor and not at all urgent] one I'd like to add to the list is to show an "earned" merit stat next to the regular one, excluding the starting "inherited" merit.  So at the moment, for example, mine would show:

Merit: 1127 (+127)

And hilariousetc's would be (if I'm right that Heroes started with 500):

Merit: 1080 (+580)

I'm thinking that, over time, it's going to become tricky to tell what rank a user was when the system was launched.  It would be helpful to be able to differentiate between what they've actually been given by other users for their posts and what they started with.  The above example is pretty good as the OP has clearly earned way more than I have, so it seems a little unfair not to make that clearer.

Realy nice list of things, like it!  And I am in any case the same opinion!

Maybe a Subforum for reports and for questionable threads and posts and spam!
Wherever threads can be discussed that may seem conspicuous or suspicious!

That's a pretty solid list compiled. Nothing like it even if half the points from that list are actually implemented! Some of the suggestions are easy on the coding end while some are complex. Do you think theymos should be coding it for this forum if he has planned to release the new forum anytime soon?

You can write whatever you want in the box provided, so if it is a user issue, just say so there.

Merit should not deteriorate.  If I make a good post, what makes that post less valuable over time?

- I think there should be an option to report a member, instead of an individual post. The format could include selecting a common reason for reporting (Sig Campaign Spam Poster / Plagiarism / Off-Topic with a comment section for other possible reasons), and then have it only alert a moderator once several people (maybe 5-10?) have reported the same member. Would reduce number of reports and probably be more effective in eliminating the worst offenders.

- a twist on your suggestion for a sub forum on BCT for highly merited members. Instead of merit as a req, you have "bouncers" who let people into the "club" based on looking through their post history and determining if they contribute value to the forum (not that every post has to be long and philosophical, but is on topic, and actually adds to the conversation). Perhaps a thread could be started for people to submit an "application" to the club. And as the club grows, you could add a number of "Suggesters", who can suggest members for selection into the club (to be approved by a bouncer), and as the club gets big enough, a major change could be implemented to the forum across the board where only those "in the club" have privileges on the forum (such as avatars, sigs, starting threads, etc). I know it will seem too exclusive or elitist to some, but it could be a possible solution to many of the issues currently plaguing the forum.

- an alternative to the idea above is simply adding more (maybe a lot more) moderators. If this happens in conjunction with making it a little harder to get to Jr Member (or at least the first rank where you can have a sig), I think most of the bots / crap-posters would be weeded out. You just have to make it hard enough to be not worth their while.

- what if merit--all merit--slowly deteriorates over time? This could help solve some issues--for example, members who got grandfathered into the merit system with a high rank, but do not post anything worth meriting. Over time, their rank would deteriorate unless they step up their game.

- an alternative to showing on each post if a member has been reported by other members, only have it show up when you click on "report to moderator".

Sure, if you can. I think it would help a lot.

Easily fixed.  I can start recording the content of merited posts as soon as they are mertted.  I can display that content if the post is deleted.

Thoughts?

I can't find the thread anymore, but one user suggested to remove to ability of (low-ranked) members to make locked threads in the marketplace section.
I think this would go a long way to prevent the autobuy scams that a lot of Jr/Newbie members are pulling off.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/admins-please-stop-allowing-users-to-lock-threads-1353400

Aren't these already a thing? See bill's profile, https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bill-gator-370611

You can. People can merit shit posts or a copy and pastes. What happens if someone gives a large merit to a deleted post? We can't see the content whether it was deserved or not. Most times it probably wont be. Huge loophole in my opinion.

• Restrict posting/reply on Marketplace (Altcoins) board & disable signeture for newbie & Jr. Members.

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We can see only merit history. But we will not able to see the post really it's deserve merit or not. Delete option should be disable from merited post.


It will be great.

You can't hide evidence by deleting posts.

We still know who you sent it to and how many you sent - we just don't know the content of the post.

Example:  https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=PavelRostov
It says "Deleted Post" for each post that has been removed.

No problem boss

Yeah, this isn't going to work. People will just want to become a merit source for all the wrong reasons then. I have no issue in giving merit out to those who contribute to the community and am happy to do it, but I don't think sources should be paid.

I'm not sure that is a good idea - giving them the ability to fly a png/jpg sig would be good though.

Payment for being a Merit Source, even if it’s something low like $100 per month.

No, it will effect the quality of the forum and greatly so. If you don't contribute anything here and get merit or aren't going to cough up for a donator rank then you shouldn't be allowed to spam away and earn here by posting rubbish. People are literally coming here with no knowledge or interest in bitcoin other than they just got told you can earn here. Many can't speak English to an acceptable standard so they just garble out nonsense or copy and paste. This can't be acceptable.


Then people would just make sure their posts are 20 words or characters or whatever and would just make things worse:

Give me bounty. Very good. I like the Project. Great time. Much support. When is airdrop? I like free money. Blah blah blah. Is this twenty words yet?


2fa is coming on the new forum, but if that isn't coming anytime soon then I agree it should be implemented here.


I'm suggesting at least one merit. Currently it's nothing. I wouldn't be against it being 2/3/4/5 or more etc. You could even bump up the Member merit requirement to something else. Personally, I think I would probably prefer something like Junior should be at least one merit but only Members and above can have a signature. That way you would still need ten merit to get a signature which spammers will struggle to get. Currently anyone can have a signature as soon as they've hit Junior and this is being colossally exploited by farmers and bounty abusers. It's so bad even bots often become Juniors now. Bots will never even get one merit.  Theymos has also stated he is against restricting new members just to one board so this almost certainly isn't going to happen.


You can already disable avatars, but those are just some of the examples of possible perks, not they should definitely have these rewards. I'm not a huge fan of animated avatars either, but people have already worked out how to have them here anyway.


It would only be for the Premium rank. I don't think spammers will pay $1000 for it or whatever. You could also give it as a reward for the 'very high merited' user rank or Legendaries or whatnot.


Maybe, this post has been reported by x amount of users, though maybe people would get annoyed if they see this on their own posts, especially if the reports remain unhanded. The more people that report it though will get the attention of the mods quicker and if it's something multiple users are reporting then it's likely urgent.