Topic: Compare pools: MiddleCoin/CleverMining/HashCows/WafflePool/Hashbros - page 4. (Read 25695 times)

o, it's perfect!

It automatically imports every 60 seconds already

Good excel.
How to import data to "raw data" table?

Wow, PANDA tanked hard overnight. That has messed the profitability up badly
It needs to rebound to .40+ to get back in front now.

Thank god for Trademybit moving over to VTC during the night. Scrypt-N multipool FTW
It still looks still slightly better than Scrypt coins right now.

You can create a spreadsheet to track the profitability of all the different coins with the following formula.
Coins per day = (86400 x BlockReward x Hashrate) / Difficulty * 4295032833)

Blockreward - how many blocks are paid out by the coin
Hashrate - Your hashrate. take 45-50% off for Scrypt-N coins
Difficulty - current coin difficulty

Then you can multiply coins per day by BTC and/or USD prices to work out your real profits.
This obviously doesn't take into account pool and transaction fees, but it is a start to working out profits.

Huge thanks to Jarred for that - http://www.holynerdvana.com/2014/02/how-to-calculate-coins-per-day-for-any.html

If you can find a website that lists all coins, blockreward, difficulty, and btc price you can setup a data import into excel and automate the whole process.
The best I have found so far is Trademybit front page as it has all the info and is easy to automatically import into excel.

If anyone wants my spreadsheet it's here, and I welcome any improvements as I'm a bit of an excel hack - https://copy.com/eCBcBMU6NLMy

Can't wait to see the results from the OP

How about comparison results? Do you have any finals?

I made some calculations and short test,
and looks like scrypt-n at trademybit.com is not very profitable.

My 8 mhs at Wafflepool made for me about 0.085 btc for last 24 hours.
with scrypt-n on same rigs I get about 3.4 mhs, and with current PANDA and VTC rates I should receive almost same 0.0084 btc.

but now Panda goes down, for calculations I take 0.00000030
https://www.mintpal.com/market/PANDA/BTC
few hours ago it was 0.00000050 and was much more profitable.

Yep there's a vertminer and a cgminer with the right kernels.

looking forward to the preliminary results.

I finally got a second GPU & now mining with 1.25 Mhash/s on MiddleCoin, if one of the other pools turns out better, I might have to look into it

Interesting, I was looking for non-scrypt-non-sha256 multipools and this is the first.
What mining software are you using? A modified cgminer for scrypt-N?

Ok, the experiment is over! I stopped all miners. I'll post preliminary results soon. For the definitive results I'll wait 48 hours to let everything be exchanged. Also MiddleCoin announced that statistics were off. Hopefully they compensate for their poor statistics in these hours.

Nevermind; found it. Additional 2% fee for auto-exchange.

Interesting; worth a shot. They pay out in BTC? I hopped over to the site but I didn't see the payout scheme.

Please point some hashing power to a Scrypt-N coin as it seems to be beating all of the plain scrypt coins right now.

I just jumped ship from middlecoin, hascows, multipool.us etc. over to Trademybit - https://pool.trademybit.com/home/.
I believe they are the first site to have PANDA and VTC on a switching Scrypt-N pool.

Your card will get about 45-50% less hashing power doing Scrypt-N compared to normal scrypt coins
With right around 500K (So 1Mhash on plain Scrypt) I am easily doing over .020BTC per 24 hours for the last few days

You could get autopay in BTC but that costs you 2% in fees, so I just setup an autopay out to Mintpal and Crypsty

So I was getting 1.4 % over 1 days of mining @ waffle within the first 1hr of mining at waffle I didn't get any rejects and if I can remember it may have been so little as in 0.03 % Always over 100% efficiency hovering between 120-140%

Now my point of all this is

I just aimed my miner at clever

and 47 minutes in and 33.46% Rejects & 75% Efficiency

If i can gt some advise from more experienced users from either pool
What shall I do , just leave it at clever and not care about the rejects and just wait for the payout?

Guys, guys, it's all good! H20 just came back from his vacation and tweeted: "The pool wasn't properly recording some blocks starting on the 16th. Stats will be frozen while the pool crunches some numbers.".

See?  He will just "fix" the numbers!  So the exodus can stop now!

j/k, I think it's overdue that h2o suffers for his incredible and repeated unprofessionalism.

I've tried Balance and Load Balance before but my hash rates fell by 20% using those methods. Do you have a magic pill that makes it work properly for you?

I've made long time statistics for my rigs ~13.5 Mhash/s pointed to Middlecoin.

The data suggest the average value to be 0.01166 BTC/Mhash when mining Middlecoin.

The rigs are located at three different physical locations.
Each location has its own wallet.
I've constructed them consecutively -with pause a few weeks between each.
The longest running location was mining at Middlecoin for 41 days.
The shortest was mining for 12 days.

I used the data obtained from http://mc.vegr.com/flotchart.php?BTC=
And processed them in Excel (in order to correctly count with "Infinity" values present and to add days with 0 payout for the locations that were not payed every day (note: the website calculates the average payment only across the days when some payment occured - which is not actually correct since Middlecoin payment occurs iff your accumulate more than 0.01 BTC))

Perhaps you could do even a bit better if you use load-balance, instead of pointing each rig to a different pool...

MC sold a lot of unexchanged "in manual mode" so it's not quite fair comparison.
I have my rigs evenly split between 3 pools (MC, clevermining, altcoinplex) and gonna stay for about a week or so to have some reasonable average.
Next week I guess the worst one will be replaced with another pool and so on... thinking of wafflepool as one of the best candidate.

I might mention that clevermining implemented some newer equipment today and the base reject rate has dropped quite a bit. I actually saw it go below 5% for a period of time. That said, all switching pools suffer higher rejects and stales because of the stales created during a switch to another coin, and the fact that some coin strata (faster coins) have contention because of the fast block times. Comes with the territory...

I have my hash power split between middlecoin and clever for the last 48 hours or so - the smaller rig grinding MC and the larger grinding Clever to spread out the variance and average my returns - and I'm pretty pleased with the results. My 1.8MH rig on MC will likely clear .02 BTC for the last 24 hours while my 4.8MH rig will clear about .05 on Clever.

If I had more rigs, I'd use them the same way - one or two mining on each pool and sit back and enjoy the action.

YMMV

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