Topic: Conclusion after losing millions! that games are rigged. (Read 781 times)

It is very correct and even if that happens it is a very stupid move on the part of the game provider, I don't think he would be able to do something like that, because he would be against everything, if he already has a large clientele, it is obvious that he won't do it , Unless it is managed by someone else who is very irresponsible to do so, but that is something very far-fetched, of course everything in this world can happen, and based on these things it is possible, now, I do not believe that a service provider of gambling does something like that, I don't think that among them it is going to kill a business that does not have it for a casino, but for many Casinos, this is what we must see so that everything does not go overboard, a business Of these it is not so Easy to achieve it, the degree of trust, and everything that has to do with the sites is enough to trust them , now I say that if one of these machines is deconfigured, the providers of these machines should respond .

Well, in many casinos, some Bugs have Appeared in the Slots , and the slots are what Bugs appear the most, which makes them win a lot, and with little risk, it is as if they were Misconfigured and Caused the casinos to lose a lot of money. In this order of things, I have seen how some casinos, when they discover this, deactivate all withdrawal memories and the people who played and who did not know they had the error will simply leave it like that and that the money they won will not recognize it, That is to say, if they had it on their balance sheet, they would debit it and that's it, that's how things work, for that reason we should not let Something like that happen to us, if that is not acceptable for the casino to debit, because the player Who I was Playing, I didn't know the Casino was like this, much less the game, so it's annoying, and that has happened a lot here in the forum, problems of that style have been Presented and it has been something very Painful , in the End the one who has to Pay is the casino.

It's a different thing if we talk about third-party games because the casino isn't responsible for that and we shouldn't blame a casino if a third-party is manipulating the bets and odds of their players which can't be seen as the bets aren't verifiable as you said. A casino provides those games for the gamblers to play but I'm sure that they have it written in their terms and services that they are not responsible for any manipulation or something that happens from a third-party game provider.

Also, I think if they come to know that a third-party game provider is doing something like that, and if the casino is reputable and has a lot of trust in the community, they will simply remove that provider and all their games from their platform and might even let their gamblers know about the issue caused.

We will never know how many football matches are clean and unfixed because we, as spectators, only know that the match is between this team and that team and hope that our favorite team will win so that the sports bet we place will also give a win. We also don't know whether we can win in the next round or whether we will experience defeat, and it all depends on the results of the analysis we do. But when the match is fixed, we also cannot predict it or predict it, especially if it is a secret from several parties who arrange it. We only know that there is manipulation in many sports matches, but we cannot investigate it because we are just ordinary spectators who need entertainment by watching football matches.

With VAR technology, everything can be revealed, but again, if every referee is bribed, of course, it will affect the match, and the match will never be honest. Unfortunately, if the referee is also bribed throughout the event, it will only make the event no longer interesting because each match is based on something other than the performance of each player. It is indeed difficult if there are still parties who can commit corruption, especially in sports matches, because they can never show the abilities of each player because the results are clear. There needs to be awareness from all parties, but it will be difficult if there are some parties who want to take greater advantage of each sporting event.

Finally one honest twitch streamer. Obviously, he lost because he is an independent streamer without ties or sponsorship to the casino. And he was able to give his honest review about them. Assuming that he was being sponsored, he first would not have lost because the casino would want a good rep from someone with high number of followers. Anyways I wouldn't conclude that he is right for now until other people checks it out and have the same report.

Yes that's right, logically why would they do something like that to the gamblers by rigging the percentage that affects the gambler's winnings, basically in my opinion it doesn't make sense, especially if the casino has a pretty good reputation as you said above then that action will actually not benefit them but on the contrary, it will be very detrimental to the casino in the long run, it is very dangerous if the gambler's trust has been lost to the casino then obviously the income from their business will decrease and or even they could go bankrupt maybe.

The point is that trust is the main thing for a company that they will give to gamblers, I'm not saying that this cheating won't happen but in my opinion casinos that already have a very good reputation in the eyes of gamblers and have gained many customers then they are unlikely to cheat like this, it's the same as they want to bring down their own business. And yes that's true which is more likely in my opinion it can happen in some new casinos or small casinos that do not have a good reputation, on the other hand their income is quite small so it is very possible that they think of ways to cheat gamblers with the aim of maximizing their income. So on this issue I totally agree with your statement buddy.

In fact, things are not as simple as they say, most scam casinos, as well as other scam sites, are run by scammers desperate to steal a lot immediately and then run away with people's money, this type of scenario is what happens. applies to what you are talking about, but in recent times people, because they already know these scam patterns, are able to avoid falling into these types of sites, as you also said, the problem arises when scammers also evolve and create a site that allows them to scam long term and how do they manage to do this? The answer is this: scammers create a website that could be a casino or an altcoin investment site or anything else and start to gain people's trust

they run subscription campaigns, they pay for advertising on many sites, they get added to good review sites and they pay people to keep posting positive reviews and after months the site pays and when the scammers already have thousands of customers, then they start to freeze some customers' funds and scammers always use their TOS as an excuse for not paying and no one can accuse scammers of being thieves, this is because no one other than scammers can prove that the customer is really right, I'll give an example to make it easier to understand what I'm saying

let's imagine that a casino has 100,000 customers, so the casino blocks 10 customers' accounts and accuses them of having too many accounts and having cheated, the 10 customers swear that they don't have many accounts and didn't cheat, but the casino insists that they are lying and they maintain their decision to block the 10 people's accounts and keep all the 10 people's money, in this case the casino stole people's money and no one can change that and people accept it. and this has happened very often and the saddest thing is that on review sites there are positive comments about casinos that are scams

I think that the games, the sporting sense and all the clean analysis that can be done in a specific sport, we as bettors and with the initiative of doing our best analyzes seeing some of the criteria that we can, because we always base ourselves on what we We know and what we have learned throughout our lives, as I said before, in soccer, the classic example of soccer, how many times as a teenager I was wrong with the results, or at least saying who wins or who loses. ? But after uncovering the pot of great corruption that was in FIFA itself, how do we know how many soccer matches were not fixed? and many of us making good bets, maybe winning but rigged? It is something sad and it is like hitting a wall, but the manipulation is not even a big deal, it is within the very top of those who direct this, we do not know what forces move them, we know what things may be present.

Now, when we now stick to anti-corruption tools such as games when the VAR is consulted, which still does not have much corruption, it is very difficult to control an arbitration panel where all the power continues to be maintained by the main referee of the games, If a main referee is sure that he has ruled something, the VAR cannot prevent or intervene, that is why there are so many fights now, 'because a referee, no matter how close he is to the things that happen there, is human, and can make a mistake. the senses, due to the degree of emotion, of fatigue considering that the main referee runs throughout the entire soccer game, these types of things are what we must Consider and make them see as something main, then if the tools are and continue Giving more power to corruption is difficult, there are many things that seem to me that football is still corrupt, and many things that can lead to bad decisions , and that must end.

Well, do we still need to have confusion about the casinos that are rigged and those that are honest? I mean the feedback says a lot about the gambling site. It will not be like that gambling casino, maybe doing rigged business with me while for others, it's being trusted. If you feel that the games are rigged at certain casinos, other gamblers will feel the same and this news will spread more than the fire damaging the casino's business in real time.

That is the reason, why being honest with gamblers should be a priority for the casinos if they want to build a long-term relationship with their clients and want the gambling site running for a long duration.

I think it's normal if you are curious about some indications that make you suspicious about whether there is fraud or not at the casino you go to, especially for online casinos, yes even though this is not too important for some people but believe me that out of 100 people I think there will definitely be at least 40/30 people who think or suspect the casino, I think it's normal because everyone has a level of concern for themselves  and none other than that it is also useful for their preparation if it is true that the casino they visit is involved in a case of fraud or fraud that will harm the gamblers.

As I said above that suspicion is only natural, because if they get some indications that give information that the casino they visit is involved in a fraud case  then they will be able to choose to find another casino that is more trusted, so with that they will be able to take some action to minimize things that are not wanted, and also yes it is also for their own good.

I’m not telling that casino is really rigged but there’s a chance that some of them is really doing since most of the user thinking the same logic as yours which auto gives them defense on whatever accusation that throws to them because there’s always a person that will defend them and use this reasoning.

In house game, I doubt casino will try to cheat on a probably fair game because bet is verifiable and easy to spot if there’s something wrong while slot games by 3rd party is a different story. It’s very hard to conclude if they are not rigging since they are close source. Trust is the only reason why people keep using them without verifying fairness of the game.

Well, I never recommend to people who enter a casino that when they lose they try to recover what they lost because it is the worst thing they can do, basically it is like telling them to say goodbye to their money and that they cannot do anything else, because that is what It happens when you try to earn what you have lost, you lose money in deposits, because that deposit is very likely to not pay off and go away, and the other thing is that you can do things well and suddenly all the money goes away thinking that recovered it due to a particular movement, then it is not good to do this type of practices, furthermore this is one of the advantages that casinos have to take advantage of the needs and impulses of people, it is something that will always happen and that many in the world will repeat that mistake, those are the things that should be avoided. I always say that before playing, you should have a balance ready to lose and not leave the money you have later because otherwise it causes problems.

A person sometimes has no experience at all in the game because it is something that they cannot see well and they let themselves be carried away by their seitmeionto, impulses and all this, but it is good that before playing they have their money ready to lose so that they don't regret it later and that means that they have complete discipline so that they can do things better, this is what I always recommend, to people who already have experience and to those who don't, well, they should do things that way, because it is the most recommended, that is why in the game you must have a lot of decision when playing.

In this order of days, as experienced players, we must always say this type of advice so that some avoid losing money, especially to newbies who come with that winning mentality, but who may not have sufficient control over their money. and they think that the casino feels obligated to make them win all the time.

It's true, it doesn't make sense for a successful and reputable platform to cheat its customers just for a one-time reward that will put its reputation at risk which might cause it to lose the trust and eventually go out of business which is a bigger loss than what they could get by cheating because as you said, if they are earning 1 million dollars a year or even before a year, risking that much revenue for a few hundred thousand dollars doesn't sound like a good deal.

Smaller and less popular platforms might try doing something like that because maybe they are not earning a lot of revenue and they are always looking to get more money by hook or crook, they also wouldn't care much because they don't have a very large user base and don't have much to lose.

That is why playing gambling at a trusted casino can give us peace of mind so that we don't think about cheating casinos because trusted casinos will not cheat even though there is still the possibility. We can only gamble calmly and not think about anything other than getting pleasure from gambling so that when we lose, we won't think that the casino is cheating us, so we lose.

And if we see an offer that is too attractive and too good to be true, we won't try it until we find the right reason why we need to try gambling at the casino. We will not force ourselves just to try to gamble at the casino because we already have a trusted casino that we often use for gambling. During this time, we also don't need to think about cheating that the casino might have carried out because our intention to gamble is just to get pleasure from gambling.

The meaning of wise gambler is not about wise people because I know wise people will not gamble because they will actually use their money for more useful things.
But here what is meant is gambler who has the attitude and thoughts of wise person where they will always consider everything when they want to make a decision and can be responsible for all the risks they take and can truly understand every activity they do.

The advantage is always on the provider or casino side and we as gamblers cannot defeat or reverse this because we have come to place full of uncertainty so whatever impacts or risks occur we must be fully able to understand without any negative thoughts towards the casino.

I agree with this and when we have this kind of approach there will never be any debate or opinion that defeat is the result of cheating or casino manipulation.
We came without being invited, we deposited money and bet without any coercion so it would be very inappropriate to claim anything bad about casino just because we lost.

Indeed don't need to find out, however I'm just asking questions and don't know how online casinos work, but it's true this isn't really important for us to find out, even if there is valid evidence that casinos commit fraud or cheating, there are definitely many parties who will suffer losses and of course there are many parties who will sue the casino.

Yes, that's right and it's very important, that we have to be careful in choosing a casino to carry out gambling activities. There are many fraudulent casinos circulating widely in society, so we have to be smart in looking for a casino that has a good reputations and is definitely user by many peoples.

The pattern is that some gambling sites never give a chance of the players to win more, they all suffer big losses while just winning some.
Indeed, we have to accept the fact that not all the time we are too lucky in gambling which is why we can't assume that if we gamble we are able to multiply our money, not the case especially if we are gambling in pure luck base games.

I could suggest that we have to choose good and reputable gambling sites as it was also a big factor in winning.

Even some proofs like screenshots can still now be manipulated easily because of how advance our technology nowadays. Also, the seed doesn't matter. It only reminds me of those gambler who think changing seeds increases their chances of winning lol. Lastly, even if we say that the allegations are true, there is no way that a casino will accept it easily. They will always deny it at first, not until many people will support the accusations being thrown at them.

Playing 20 hours straight is insane but there should be a hit within that time frame. The strategy of jumping games could work great. I saw someone before who recommended that, when we feel that the games aren't giving anything. At the end of the day, luck still plays a major role. We can win early or later, in any games we play if luck permits.

OP, don't always think that your games are rigged if there is not valid or reasonable evidence to back it up. If you have evidence and proof that can go beyond any reasonable doubt, then you can take legal action against the casino. That's if you have the money to finance the case.

Normally, in the casino business, gamblers lose more than they win, and that's the actual reason why the casino business is still expanding. If the casino owners frequently have more winner than losses, then they will have to spend all their money paying gamblers.

I can also see that you are talking about stake casinos, but have you tried to also test other casinos? I know that each time I gamble against the computer, like in some virtual sports games, I always feel cheated because I used to think that the system was biased, but that's just how the system is designed.

We will never know what really happened because we are just users who want to have fun playing slots. We also don't need to think too deeply about the possibility of cheating by casinos in gambling games at their casinos. If we think about that and try to look for evidence that the casino is cheating us, it will waste a lot of time because we will definitely spend time looking for evidence. And that will clearly influence us in getting pleasure from gambling. Instead of doing things like that, we should enjoy gambling as entertainment and accept the results. After all, we won't always experience loss because we can win from slot games.

And what we have to do is look for a trusted casino that will not cheat the gamblers who are permanent members who often gamble at the casino. By getting a trusted casino, we don't need to worry about scams that the casino might commit because a trusted casino will definitely maintain its reputation and always provide satisfaction to its members. Cheating means that the casino takes the risk of being abandoned by gamblers who are loyal to gambling at the casino, and it is a loss for the casino if the gamblers find out that the casino is cheating against its gamblers.

Well this happens when the people are not clear about what the casino's seventy is like, everyone can tell the wind of the house , and they can take it later as something that 'happened because it was tampered with, I think that many people when they don't know the system of some people they should not enter, because it is for problems , if they Accept Things as they are in the casinos there will always be misunderstandings, it could be because of the adrenaline at the moment and how he did things, because it hurt him a lot to have lost , because Partly when we Hear more about it, the casinos always have the way of thinking that they have to win, and that's the case , Because a casino is the owner of its business and in every business you have to ensure the Profits, and you are not going to have a casino just to have losses , it is something that does not make any kind of sense, so based on this we must be aware that we are fighting against the advantage of the house, against the complexity of the game, so the moments where we have those blows of Good luck because we must make the most of them to be able to have a Better way of Seeing things and to be Able to Leave with some Profits.


Sometimes the Psychological aspect of people in doing things Better can lead us to a broader sense of what they can achieve, many enter with the Intention of making a lot of money, and they go through the slots because that is the way they usually do With money you can achieve a lot, but don't you see that with that Amount of money it is little or however the person Wants to bet, it is more difficult to win? because if not everyone would play slto and would withdraw thousands of millions of dollars every day and would leave the casino decapitalized, then it is in this order of ideas that we must assume that the bears in the casino always are and will be like this, there is no way that can be seen from Otherwise, they will try to win, and it is Unfortunate that the person who made the video has become so angry and then says that it is Manipulation, no casino will get Upset over him.