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Topic: Conclusion after losing millions! that games are rigged. - page 3. (Read 707 times)

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Well, each of us has an option to do things, the best option is that if one goes to the casino and loses, nothing happens, things are like that, always in a casino there is the latent possibility that one as a player loses and that is not It means that the casino is a fraud or something like that, not at all, this is totally plausible because the casino will always have the advantage and it will always be a priority that they can be the things like that, now one as a player fights against that home advantage and can make a difference if you have some touch of luck, it is very different when a casino is fraudulent because generally they cannot cheat within the game system itself, what they do is when they are about to withdraw that they are not allowed and well that That's what leaves it there, so in this order of ideas we as players always before entering any casino, making a registration or something like that we must investigate whether the game is worth it or not.

We must be clear about two things, the first, the casino is a means of entertainment, it is not an ATM, the second option is that whenever we choose a casino to be the favorite, we must check its reputation, how reliable it is, and Here in the forum there are many options through which we, the reviewers, can realize, and the different ways there are to be able to face everything they say in the ANN thread, which for me is a very good option, there we see how it is that The casino is going, how is each incident, the complaints, the nice things, everything is what we must review, the comparison with all the casinos, more or less what is its position with respect to the other casinos, how much community it has, because A casino that has little community is debatable that strange things can happen, but a casino that has a lot of omnibusness and they are talking and sharing opinions all the time, that means that there are also winners, because no one is going to give away free money out there.
If a gambler loses a gambling game, it means that he does not have the luck to win and does not have the skills needed to be able to beat his opponents. He also can't accuse the casino of cheating him because if he realizes it, he's not alone in losing, and many gamblers also lose. So are they going to accuse the casinos of ripping them off? Of course not, unless they gamble in a shady casino where they will obviously experience fraud by the casino because the casino will not let the gamblers win a lot of money. So before gamblers enter the casino, they should be able to realize that they have a greater chance of losing than they can win so that they cannot accuse the casino of cheating. If they don't want to experience losses, especially big losses, they shouldn't gamble at all, where they don't have to experience losing their money and don't need to accuse anyone of cheating them.

Yes, casinos are a means of entertainment that we can use in our free time, but we also have to use limits when gambling so that we can prevent losing a lot of money, which is often unacceptable for gamblers. Before we choose a casino, it would be better if we find out more information to find out why the casino is classified as a trusted casino or a shady casino so that we will only gamble at trusted casinos and always stay away from shady casinos because they will definitely cheat us easily. And yes, it is true that in this forum, we have many reviewers and members who are experienced in gambling who always share their experiences with many people. They share their good and bad experiences when gambling at a casino and will give a warning if the casino is shady. But they will suggest trusted casinos that we can use to gamble so that we can avoid fraud from these shady casinos.
Those point of view and beliefs would really be able to come out on the time that you had spend out all of your money or even we do say that you do hit up million mark losses but it is really just that impossible
that you wont really be ending up on being having those kind of questions in regarding your situation that you might have noticed something unusual. If you are trying to prove out that th site you are dealing with
isnt that fair then it would really be that wise that you should really be stopping  completely rather than on trying out to spend up more just to make some solid proof? There's no way that you could really be able to do
until you would really be that busting all of your account balances.

Therefore, it would really be the best thing to be done is to make yourself deal with those top ranking or considered/reputable gambling platforms on which you would really be clearing up your mind
for it to be possibly be rigged or not. Somewhat it wont really be that 100% safe or fair but basing up on rankings then you would really be that at least confident that you are dealing with the right place.
You wont really be giving out those kind of reasoning on the time that you have lost all of your balance. FOr those people who are financially capable then losing millions would be peanuts,
if they can afford or reach out these numbers then these basically means that these fellas are whale gamblers.
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Well, each of us has an option to do things, the best option is that if one goes to the casino and loses, nothing happens, things are like that, always in a casino there is the latent possibility that one as a player loses and that is not It means that the casino is a fraud or something like that, not at all, this is totally plausible because the casino will always have the advantage and it will always be a priority that they can be the things like that, now one as a player fights against that home advantage and can make a difference if you have some touch of luck, it is very different when a casino is fraudulent because generally they cannot cheat within the game system itself, what they do is when they are about to withdraw that they are not allowed and well that That's what leaves it there, so in this order of ideas we as players always before entering any casino, making a registration or something like that we must investigate whether the game is worth it or not.

We must be clear about two things, the first, the casino is a means of entertainment, it is not an ATM, the second option is that whenever we choose a casino to be the favorite, we must check its reputation, how reliable it is, and Here in the forum there are many options through which we, the reviewers, can realize, and the different ways there are to be able to face everything they say in the ANN thread, which for me is a very good option, there we see how it is that The casino is going, how is each incident, the complaints, the nice things, everything is what we must review, the comparison with all the casinos, more or less what is its position with respect to the other casinos, how much community it has, because A casino that has little community is debatable that strange things can happen, but a casino that has a lot of omnibusness and they are talking and sharing opinions all the time, that means that there are also winners, because no one is going to give away free money out there.
If a gambler loses a gambling game, it means that he does not have the luck to win and does not have the skills needed to be able to beat his opponents. He also can't accuse the casino of cheating him because if he realizes it, he's not alone in losing, and many gamblers also lose. So are they going to accuse the casinos of ripping them off? Of course not, unless they gamble in a shady casino where they will obviously experience fraud by the casino because the casino will not let the gamblers win a lot of money. So before gamblers enter the casino, they should be able to realize that they have a greater chance of losing than they can win so that they cannot accuse the casino of cheating. If they don't want to experience losses, especially big losses, they shouldn't gamble at all, where they don't have to experience losing their money and don't need to accuse anyone of cheating them.

Yes, casinos are a means of entertainment that we can use in our free time, but we also have to use limits when gambling so that we can prevent losing a lot of money, which is often unacceptable for gamblers. Before we choose a casino, it would be better if we find out more information to find out why the casino is classified as a trusted casino or a shady casino so that we will only gamble at trusted casinos and always stay away from shady casinos because they will definitely cheat us easily. And yes, it is true that in this forum, we have many reviewers and members who are experienced in gambling who always share their experiences with many people. They share their good and bad experiences when gambling at a casino and will give a warning if the casino is shady. But they will suggest trusted casinos that we can use to gamble so that we can avoid fraud from these shady casinos.
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I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.


The guy on the video just overextended his bad luck and when he raked losses he began to think that the slots and casinos are rigged he should know better if he had been gambling for a long time, he should know that when he is having a long stretch of bad luck he should stop right away and not wait for him to lose millions then go on stream to tell people that casinos are rigged.

This is not good behavior you picture yourself as a sore loser and you cannot get over your losses, a responsible gambler does not broadcast his losses and tells people that he got cheated because the casino he's playing is rigged.
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Even though people lose more in the casino but still no one complains that the casino is rigged or unfair. Do you know why?
The reason is simple. Every gambler knows how the casino works and gambler still tries their luck that even with the house edge advantage to the house, they still have a chance to win big and this hope keeps motivating the gamblers to keep risking their money.
If they still hope like that, they still have no chance of winning because it will depend on their luck. And they will avoid scam casinos because they have researched every casino they want to use for gambling. But it's different if they just choose the casino at random, so there is a possibility that they will experience fraud that the casino will carry out. That's what causes people to return to gambling to try to win the gambling games they like, so that will be their motivation always to try to gamble. Moreover, a trusted casino will refrain from cheating its customers because that would destroy its reputation, especially if the news spreads widely.

Well, each of us has an option to do things, the best option is that if one goes to the casino and loses, nothing happens, things are like that, always in a casino there is the latent possibility that one as a player loses and that is not It means that the casino is a fraud or something like that, not at all, this is totally plausible because the casino will always have the advantage and it will always be a priority that they can be the things like that, now one as a player fights against that home advantage and can make a difference if you have some touch of luck, it is very different when a casino is fraudulent because generally they cannot cheat within the game system itself, what they do is when they are about to withdraw that they are not allowed and well that That's what leaves it there, so in this order of ideas we as players always before entering any casino, making a registration or something like that we must investigate whether the game is worth it or not.

We must be clear about two things, the first, the casino is a means of entertainment, it is not an ATM, the second option is that whenever we choose a casino to be the favorite, we must check its reputation, how reliable it is, and Here in the forum there are many options through which we, the reviewers, can realize, and the different ways there are to be able to face everything they say in the ANN thread, which for me is a very good option, there we see how it is that The casino is going, how is each incident, the complaints, the nice things, everything is what we must review, the comparison with all the casinos, more or less what is its position with respect to the other casinos, how much community it has, because A casino that has little community is debatable that strange things can happen, but a casino that has a lot of omnibusness and they are talking and sharing opinions all the time, that means that there are also winners, because no one is going to give away free money out there.
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Even though people lose more in the casino but still no one complains that the casino is rigged or unfair. Do you know why?
The reason is simple. Every gambler knows how the casino works and gambler still tries their luck that even with the house edge advantage to the house, they still have a chance to win big and this hope keeps motivating the gamblers to keep risking their money.
If they still hope like that, they still have no chance of winning because it will depend on their luck. And they will avoid scam casinos because they have researched every casino they want to use for gambling. But it's different if they just choose the casino at random, so there is a possibility that they will experience fraud that the casino will carry out. That's what causes people to return to gambling to try to win the gambling games they like, so that will be their motivation always to try to gamble. Moreover, a trusted casino will refrain from cheating its customers because that would destroy its reputation, especially if the news spreads widely.
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Yeah, for someone who gambles a lot and with that money. We don't care whether he can afford that or not but for him, he can spend that no matter what will be the outcome of his gambling.

We always have these people complain of how unlucky they are and how much they've lost. If they don't gamble in the first place, they wouldn't have any problems at all.

All they need to do is to stop gambling and let their money spend somewhere else so that they're not going to lose it through gambling.

Stop gambling completely is an option if they believe such activity is a major problem in their life, otherwise it is okey just to step down the wager and try get better at money management, in my opinion.
Also, It bothers my mind how anyone would spend millions on gambling before thinking the game is rigged against them, usually people start to suspect about a game being rigged way before reaching such point in their session or number of sessions and decide to move to other games or casinos.
If people paid attention the information page of casinos like Stake, where they clearly warn people not to deposit more than they can afford to lose, we would not see so many cases of people complaining and throwing accusations of fraud each time there are losses to mourn. At least, not all gamblerd are like that and just take the losses, moving on to improve themselves through time.
Am sincerely always saddened by such kind of accusations mostly when the gambler has lost much more than what they should loose. I don't know which was the case between having to discover the games betted on was rigged or having to realize the loss and thus looking for who to blame for incurring such a loss.
It was probably a very bad day to have lost such in slots and if I were the one who noticed how the systems delayed showing winning results or rewards, I would have not waited for my funds to finish because I was so engrossed and feel I can win after the next bet. I believe this happened so because the OP has much funds to loose and it wouldn't bother him as life or others don't depend on him for survival.
Even the owners would disagree the game was rigged because they have the business and want to make profit at any means and can delete any proof of such criminality behind rigging.

Rather of being saddened by people who lash out against the casino because they ran into losses they were not planing to have, it should serve as a warning for us, to keep ourselves within the tracks.of responsible gambling and consider any deposited money to be burnt money and not some kind of investment.
Also, any casino owner will argue that they are running a business and they are being fair when making clear to their patrons or gamblers about the odds they have to win or lose, if a casino is legitimate and is not doing anything illegal or shady then they will have nothing to hide from anyone who wishes to check their probably fair system.

There will be always people like OP who will claim the game is rigged, we are supposed to only pay attention if evidence is presented onto the table, otherwise, if the casino is reliable and with a long history of payouts, there is little one can do.
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Even though people lose more in the casino but still no one complains that the casino is rigged or unfair. Do you know why?
The reason is simple. Every gambler knows how the casino works and gambler still tries their luck that even with the house edge advantage to the house, they still have a chance to win big and this hope keeps motivating the gamblers to keep risking their money.

I will slightly add to your assumption, because indeed every gambler, especially those who are addicted, always think or carry the mindset that at that time or at that experiment they believe they will be able to be one of the lucky ones among the 10 people playing. As you said and I said just now is also nothing more than the motivation that they always bring to every gambling session, no matter if the final result always loses but this is a real cycle in gambling that will be experienced by every gambler, and if they finally lose they will assume that "maybe today I was unlucky" and they will come again tomorrow with the same motivation and enthusiasm.

I honestly can't give a significant reason as to why they have that mindset, but one of the reasons is because they misunderstand what is meant by "opportunity" in gambling, basically it is really just an opportunity and is not based on any guarantee for anyone who wants to try to take advantage of the opportunity. There is no cheating whatsoever in gambling and what makes them always lose is because of their own actions and mindset, they are wrong in understanding that gambling is not a place to make money but nothing more than entertainment and luck.
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Casino is not a game but it's a place where there are games inside it and people play it to entertain themselves and have profit if they are lucky. I say it because many people lose as the casino has more advantage than them.

Yes, the casino has the house edge advantage, and they deserve to get this advantage because they have spent the money to develop their site. business and it is not a charitable organization. Casinos are not at all made to give an advantage or free money to the player's, they are always made with a business mindset to earn profit.

The only thing that the user can win more is when a casino experience a problem or some hackers screw it first. I've seen cases like this on the past. I feel sorry for that casino. They are fair and only wants to try to earn on this space. There are still other reasons on why a casino can get bankrupt. No business owner's wants that so they should always try their best and follow the plans that they have created in order to avoid it.

Even though people lose more in the casino but still no one complains that the casino is rigged or unfair. Do you know why?
The reason is simple. Every gambler knows how the casino works and gambler still tries their luck that even with the house edge advantage to the house, they still have a chance to win big and this hope keeps motivating the gamblers to keep risking their money.
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I think we all know that and it's not even a figment, after all other people often experience losses like that but they don't say it's cheating, understand that it's part of the risk of gambling so that when you feel like you're losing don't think of it as part of cheating. by casinos, it is a risky game where in every game there are winners and there are also losers.

Even though we know that the casino still always wins against all its users, I think you understand what I mean, everything is set up to win the casino more than it wins the user, if the users win more then the casino will go bankrupt, have you ever seen a casino go bankrupt, I don't think so Unless the casino is empty of users, you need to learn more about it because I can only give you a clue to understand how the casino system works even though it uses a "probably fair" system.  Wink
Casino is not a game but it's a place where there are games inside it and people play it to entertain themselves and have profit if they are lucky. I say it because many people lose as the casino has more advantage than them. The only thing that the user can win more is when a casino experience a problem or some hackers screw it first. I've seen cases like this on the past. I feel sorry for that casino. They are fair and only wants to try to earn on this space. There are still other reasons on why a casino can get bankrupt. No business owner's wants that so they should always try their best and follow the plans that they have created in order to avoid it.
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Calling something rigged when you're on a losing streak is an easy.  But the casinos and bookies gotta keep an even playing field to keep their good name. and  That's not saying there aren't shady games out there, but you better have solid proof if you're gonna yell rigged!


You’re right. When you’re on a losing streak, that’s when the possibility of the casino being rigged enters your head. But while winning, you’ll probably be thinking of how smart and sharp you are to predict games and win. People love to claim responsibility whenever they’re having a positive outcome and claim fraud and be in total denial whenever they’re starting to lose. I’m moved to say it’s human nature as a lot of people are guilty of this but it’s not. Not everyone claims the system is rigged whenever they’re not having the outcome they wanted. You surely have got to have real evidence of your accusations.
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We can't deny the fact that there's a possibility of online cheating issue since online casinos is operated by the developers, and there's always a risk that it may not operated fairly. An individual must ensure that the casino site that they are playing is trustworthy and legitimate. Do some research and make sure that the site has a good reputation, Also many individuals doesn't want to read Terms and Conditions which is important especially if there's a monetary involved, T&C plays a huge part because it states the rules of the games, restrictions and some requirements needed prior playing.
The problem of online cheating has been around for a long time and is difficult to eradicate. Still, each online casino, especially online casinos that are gaining popularity, always maintains its reputation by never cheating its customers because it will affect its reputation. Many gamblers also don't cheat because they realize that if they cheat, it will have an impact on their gambling account. Casinos can freeze gambling accounts easily because casinos always monitor the activities of all their customers. For this reason, we as gamblers also have to make sure we can register at a trusted and popular casino so that we don't experience problems when gambling or when we have finished gambling.
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what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

If we talk about popular casinos and game providers, I won't say they are rigged after all. It's just that these players are not fortunate in that particular session and do not accept the fact that even if they feel that luck is not on their side, they still continue to gamble.

It's common to see gamblers blaming casino games are rigged just because they lose most of the time.

Gambling is a game of risks. Why expect to win most of the time? It's not called gambling anymore if the win rate chance can be determined.
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Did he lose millions to prove that slots are rigged?
No, he didn't lose millions of dollars just to be able to prove that the game was rigged but he spent more money because he was curious about it all, and when there were suspicions he didn't stop but kept doing it again.

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Casinos claim that their results are provably fair and you can choose the casino that works for you it can be due to one or many reasons. You can't conclude the game is rigged just because you lost 10 out of 10 bets. And if you think the casino is intentionally manipulating the results of a crash game then they should always bust and only when no one bet they should hit which isn't the case so its all just assumption from the frustration and if you want to convince then it needed some proofs more than words.

Casinos claim that the games they have are proven to be fair because most of the games are managed by third parties or providers and those that are used are trusted providers that every casino owner can rely on, after all, each game will always go through many trials before it is truly successful, can actually be released into casinos so it is natural that they claim that the games are provably fair.
For example gambling is an activity that has no certainty and will only result in defeat, so every gambler must understand that he must accept all forms of results that occur.
If he loses he then thinks that the game has been rigged then it is clear that this is the thinking of novice gamblers who do not have quite a lot of experience.

Moreover, when gamblers have decided to register and deposit money, they indirectly have to trust everything in the casino and if something happens then blaming the casino without clear evidence will only cause problems.
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what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

I didn't finish the video because it's expected of a guy who loses millions he did not present anything that will verify his accusation look at the title of his video
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IS GAMBLING RIGGED?!
So he is not sure if it is or he is only presenting his idea that it is, if he is a responsible gambler he should have done his research first and not wait for him to lose millions of dollars and then do an investigation people will think that you are a sore loser.

People should do an investigation on the casino or games they are going to play first and if they see that the casino or games are dubious then don't play and look for other games or casinos and make sure you know the fact that this is gambling it could go either way you get busted or you take home the jackpot
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Did he lose millions to prove that slots are rigged?

Casinos claim that their results are provably fair and you can choose the casino that works for you it can be due to one or many reasons. You can't conclude the game is rigged just because you lost 10 out of 10 bets. And if you think the casino is intentionally manipulating the results of a crash game then they should always bust and only when no one bet they should hit which isn't the case so its all just assumption from the frustration and if you want to convince then it needed some proofs more than words.
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People thinking that casinos are rigged is a common misconception, and casinos are guaranteed to make huge profits without cheating. Moreover, there is no real evidence to support that casinos are cheating and many gamblers lose a lot of money and accuse them of being cheated by casinos when in fact they do not accept the fact that it is one of the real risks in gambling.
Gambling is luck and luck is unpredictable. So bet moderately and for fun, sometimes today you are unlucky, tomorrow there is a chance to be lucky.

True, I agree with you. The real problem here is the OP. Let's say this: if he suspects that the casino is rigged, then why does he keep betting? Even raise the stake? The real problem is that he keeps on betting and betting because he's desperate for winnings. He thinks that betting more money and betting more sessions will give him a win, but in reality, it's not. Slots are all about propability and luck; the OP just doesn't think carefully before spending and betting.

There is no evidence that online casinos are rigged; if it is, then they should not be permitted to operate online because they will adhere to the rules and laws; it's a processor to which they will get a permit, and I'm sure they have checked if their system will cheat or be rigged. It's just that the OP finds something to blame, but the truth is, he should blame himself for excessive betting. If you know you are losing too much money from that start, then as a responsible gambler, you should stop. You should know your limits, but the problem is that OP is an irresponsible gambler.
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Bet big? What is big in your opinion? Your understanding of big might be different from what we and owners of Stake think it is.
If you really see it happening this way, why wouldn't you record your session and put it on youtube? I could be sympathetic if I saw this happen. If you were to bet in a pattern like this ($1 W, $1 W, $10 L, $1 W, $1 W, $10 L, $10 L and so on), people might start to believe you, but for now it's your word against the casino's.
I don't think that it's rigged but if I lost a million dollars I'd probably change my mind. You can go crazy after such loss.

Maybe the OP is gambling with a different playing pattern and he has explained that he will always raise the bet every time he loses, so the gambler should know the algorithm of how the slot casino works then he will not accuse the casino of being rigged because the slot casino has low potential to win and the solution must minimize losses for the next betting session.

Don't play emotionally to increase your bet every time you lose because you will experience high losses and won't be able to recover your losses if you gamble with a pattern like that, that's why I rarely play slot gambling because it has an impact on the emotional factor of risking all my funds.
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We either have to agree that casinos use provably fair system and that it works, or not.

If you believe it doesn't, why not check the seed of that one game. You say that low bets were fine but when you bet high it was a loss, so it's rigged, so verify that one seed of the game you lost. I don't see a problem.

A game is very simple and it doesn't need time to think about the outcome of a roll. If you experience delays and think the game is making sure you lose, know that the interface is much slower than the game itself. The game is settled the moment you press your mouse button. You may not see the result but it's already calculated because the game needs milliseconds to do it, but then it has to let the front end do its thing and send it all to the player.
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The house knows that they will always have a profit with a large amount of capital to maintain operations on the games, and winning players are only a few, almost every game I have ever tried has the same feeling that they are are all addictive whether you lose/win. I have had a number of private conversations with online gambling developers, and they also shared the truth about the Sic Bo game, even if there is a difference in the odds between the parties, they will still be willing to pump money. to balance and win for the house. So there are actually killing machines that many people don't know about, but its legality is always an issue when the games that are created always have powerful and financial parties behind them support, so if you don't understand this and see it as a way to make money, sooner or later that addict will end up broke.

But we also need to have a more fair view, not only on negative issues, but also as an entertaining player, I don't want life to become difficult when losing. Fun gambling and sports betting all bring unforgettable emotions.
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Firstly I think it's important you know that gambling is very much based on luck and in most cases it's tilted to go against you so out of every 10 rounds, 8 are usually tilted against you except a few times you could be lucky to win that's basically how the casino profits.

So it's very possible there can be manipulations because if they continually allow you to win they wouldn't make profit and if everyone wins aswell there wouldn't be enough funds to pay everybody so at some point I think the throw in some manipulations so they could get some more funds but it's not too often, sometimes it could be you having a bad day and sometime you could have a lucky day aswell, this is a personal opinion tho.
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