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Actually, I don't really know how slot games or other online casino games work, whether they use AI or something like that to ensure that users don't experience big profits, but I once experienced a crash when playing slots, but I thought that it might be because my signal was wrong, but After this thread came up, I wondered whether it was true that online casinos were actually set up in such a way as not to experience big losses because they ran a business of course to make big profits.

But we cannot assume carelessly because we don't really know yet and there is no evidence to show that slot games or other types of online casinos are cheating because what we all know for sure so far is that gambling games are actually aimed at providing pleasure to their users and not to make money. .
legendary
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what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

I can't answer correctly what you said. but throughout my experience, when I am enjoying a gaming session and a crash occurs, this femomena situation often occurs. but it can be when I'm in the phase of a good shot, or conversely a bad game. usually, when I play slots. but as I said, it's not always when we are in a winning condition. In fact, when I play with a small bankroll I often experience this. Well, just imagine, even a game with a small bankroll can crash, especially if you bet with a large bet. It's possible that this situation occurred randomly due to a system error.

To be sure, I can't say for sure. On the other hand, there are many gamblers who win their gambling sessions even without any problems. I once saw my friend play slots in person, and he won several thousand dollars. So, if the game is rigged. that means, my friend will never win that big win. In fact, it's not uncommon for luck to always accompany my friends' gambling sessions. well, we have two different cases. you are always at a disadvantage, while experience and what I see from my wins are the opposite.

If you want to confirm that you have been cheated, it would be better to provide concrete evidence. that too, with reasonable evidence. try doing the experiment again, and you can record it. prove it, is this just a personal assumption due to frequent defeats? or... you are being cheated. Honestly, I don't want to defend the casino, if the casino has a high reputation, let alone integrity, it won't do things like that. Moreover, most slot games are developed by third parties and as far as I know, every game player has gone through an RNG system. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I mostly bet on sports.
legendary
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hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.


Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

If you're going into a casino or gambling environment with the mentality that it's rigged, you've probably already lost regardless because you are in the wrong state of mind to play. You could look at online poker sites for example and realistically there is a heavy chance they are rigged in certain ways, sometimes rewarding terrible players who happen to deposit a lot of money, in the name of "fairness". However if you're in that poker mindset and thinking the house is against you, it'll put you on tilt so it's better to either conquer your doubts or even try to play with that disadvantage in mind. Fact is, it's highly unlikely you'll ever be able to tell that online sites are really rigged because random numbers can equally screw you over.
Wrong state of mind indeed on which you would really be that able to make yourself that believe on something which it isnt even true. You would really be molding up those kind of ideas whenever you are experiencing
losses. It would really be that part of humans mindset whenever they've been experiencing repetitive things on which they would really be assuming that the site is rigged.  Losing up millions before you would completely stop? this is something that do talks about gambling addiction i should say. If you've been able to notice up something then you wont really be that making yourself that reaching out into that point.
It would be always that a loser kind like of reasoning whenever you do find yourself being wrecked up on which it would really be just that normal that you would be having those kind of thoughts
but eventually those ones are very wrong. You cant really just make out those claims without having solid evidences yet you would really be that making yourself that looks like a clown. hehe
hero member
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Winding down.
 Slots have always been luck based and mostly, the edge is on the house always that leave us rare chances to win. So realizing that, then its really possible that we will only lose consistently if we keep pursuing betting in slots. That's why some players who can't accept their huge losses end up accusing the casino that their games are rigged, which I think it needs more clear evidence before accusing.

This happens if you always assume that you will end up winning decent amount after betting. When in reality, slots are giving us rare chances to win, so its up to us if we keep risking our money in this low probability of making us profitable, until we end up losing everything in our wallet.
legendary
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hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.


Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

If you're going into a casino or gambling environment with the mentality that it's rigged, you've probably already lost regardless because you are in the wrong state of mind to play. You could look at online poker sites for example and realistically there is a heavy chance they are rigged in certain ways, sometimes rewarding terrible players who happen to deposit a lot of money, in the name of "fairness". However if you're in that poker mindset and thinking the house is against you, it'll put you on tilt so it's better to either conquer your doubts or even try to play with that disadvantage in mind. Fact is, it's highly unlikely you'll ever be able to tell that online sites are really rigged because random numbers can equally screw you over.
legendary
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It's such a weird feeling that people would think that provably fair stuff could be rigged, or even if not provably fair, casinos that makes millions of dollars would rig and have a risk of losing all their customers.

Think about it, you make 1 million dollars per year profit, would you give it all away for 10 million dollars today? I would not, that would not make sense, I could just sell my company and keep being rich, do another business, or just retire and be healthy. I can say that me personally? I would retire for 200k dollars, that would be more than enough for me to retire, and would be a decent amount.

These people are making more money in profit right now then they could ever spend, they do not "need" this much money, why would they take a risk and lose it all just to steal from some customers? That never made sense to me at all. I understand that we are going to end up with something that would be a little bit of a big change if that were true.
First of all, ask yourself, how does the casino make the one million dollars profit every year? What if their means of making this profit is by the games they rigged and the money they steal from unsuspecting customers who play this games in hopes or assumptions that they are playing a provably fair game?

Now, I am not talking about casinos in general, as I personally know and believe that we have a lot of reputable casinos that wouldn't want to engage in cheating customers by providing them a rigged game to play, but let's not try to pretend or say that it's not possible for some dubious casinos or game providers to rig a game, and customers will play that game for years, losing their money and believing that their loss was as a result of luck not being on their side, meanwhile, the actual result of their loss was actually because the game is rigged, and they do not know it.

I have actually come across some casino present a game to players, and claim the game is provably fair, whereas after some sophisticated gamblers invested the game, they discovered the said game is not provably fair, as claimed by the casino, this happens, but mostly with new and dubious casinos or game providers.
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It's such a weird feeling that people would think that provably fair stuff could be rigged, or even if not provably fair, casinos that makes millions of dollars would rig and have a risk of losing all their customers.

Think about it, you make 1 million dollars per year profit, would you give it all away for 10 million dollars today? I would not, that would not make sense, I could just sell my company and keep being rich, do another business, or just retire and be healthy. I can say that me personally? I would retire for 200k dollars, that would be more than enough for me to retire, and would be a decent amount.

These people are making more money in profit right now then they could ever spend, they do not "need" this much money, why would they take a risk and lose it all just to steal from some customers? That never made sense to me at all. I understand that we are going to end up with something that would be a little bit of a big change if that were true.
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As wise gambler, we must always think that winning is only when we are lucky and gambling will always result in defeat.
When there is awareness like this, will never state that there is manipulation.

I hear the term "wise gambler" sounds so sarcastic, because I think wise people won't be a gambler. Gambling is inherently a game of chance, and the odds are always stacked against the player. There may be strategies that can help maximize the chances of winning, but these strategies cannot overcome the inherent randomness of gambling. Over the long term, most of gamblers will inevitably lose money, because the house always has an edge, meaning that the odds are always in their favor. There will be a winner when there some losers, no one can always be a winner. No matter how skilled or knowledgeable a gambler may be, they cannot consistently beat the odds and walk away with a profit.

I think wise gamblers are gamblers who deal with gambling as form of entertainment, and the only way to truly enjoy it is to accept that losing is part of the experience. If you gamble, do so responsibly and within your means, and never expect to make money from it.
legendary
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There are times that we are lucky in one casino and have bad experiences in other casinos you just pick the casinos where you have success but be sure it's a reputable one.
It's difficult to find which casino makes us successful, even though we know that each casino is different and gives luck to its users, I think almost all casinos are the same, there is no coincidence that when playing at casino A I win and at casino B I lose, in my opinion it's just It's a coincidence and sometimes I also experience defeat at these two casinos, there is no such thing as success when playing gambling

In my opinion, success in gambling is success because you can control yourself when gambling and that does not mean success in winning large amounts of money, although we still have to know which casinos are safe for us to play in, namely those that definitely have a high reputation on this forum, at least so that we don't feel cheated and are certainly trusted on this forum.
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This video that has our millionaire gambler saying games are rigged lacks merit in his reporting!!!

Why didn't he add some screenshots showing his seed never changes, if this was the case a refund would easily be initiated by the casino!

And he goes on to say he gambles 20 hours straight without hitting anything, this tells me he is either jumping from one game to another which is a bad strategy if we consider RTP which should pay you for playing for a while on that game... otherwise key information is missing in this vlog shared!!

Hope his not a hired gun trying to discredit some Casino out there...
legendary
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hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.

This is one of the advantages you can have when playing on a website compared to a physical casino.
When it comes to blockchain-based games, the most respected sites will always provide you with mechanisms to audit your bets and results yourself. If there is any fraud, it is "easily" detectable.
Unfortunately, most players don't do this conference, I don't do it myself.

Even though I believe that there are fraudulent sites, I believe that most of them are in fact fair to the players, the problem is that the probability in favor of the house ends up increasing the feeling that "something is wrong" and many players simply accuse the sites without have any evidence against them.
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other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.

That's your experience it's not necessarily the experience of all gamblers and you cannot compare your experience with other gamblers, every gambler needs
 to face the house edge and it differs from one gambler to another, so if you think that you are always busted some gamblers are having a good run in winning.

The guy on the video knows how to verify his bet since he is a gambler he should have posted the results of the verifier, if you're not comfortable playing on one casino because you suspect it of rigging the game, you can always check the other casinos.

There are times that we are lucky in one casino and have bad experiences in other casinos you just pick the casinos where you have success but be sure it's a reputable one.


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It's not rigged but more like it favors the house more often, rigged means there's no chances that you will be winning so I don't exactly think online betting or gambling is exactly rigged. If you really don't trust the website that you're playing on then don't play there anymore, that's the only solution. You can always find other gambling websites that's more trustworthy when it comes to their games so there's really no excuses why you keep staying on that casino or betting site if you feel like you're being cheated on your bets or games. I also would like to add that there's also organizations that ensures fair gaming so I don't know how they will be able to rig games.

This link can be helpful in understanding that there's organization that's ensuring there's fair games in an online casino although this only has a Filipino jurisdiction so it might be not that helpful.
Code:
https://medium.com/@pesobetphilippines/online-casino-regulation-in-the-philippines-balancing-entertainment-and-responsibility

Here's some house edge samples online.
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You’re right. When you’re on a losing streak, that’s when the possibility of the casino being rigged enters your head. But while winning, you’ll probably be thinking of how smart and sharp you are to predict games and win. People love to claim responsibility whenever they’re having a positive outcome and claim fraud and be in total denial whenever they’re starting to lose. I’m moved to say it’s human nature as a lot of people are guilty of this but it’s not. Not everyone claims the system is rigged whenever they’re not having the outcome they wanted. You surely have got to have real evidence of your accusations.
It's usual with people to wan to behave in such manner where they tend to think that the casino is been manipulated because some how they are on a loosing streaks but then it's important we learn to keep an open mind to the fact that it's just luck playing out.

With gambling while you loose, some one else is winning so it's almost a balanced situation and most of the time it turns out you may not be having a Lucky day and doesn't mean it's been manipulated because as you loose someone is Winning but if it were manipulated, then everyone will be loosing,. But then no doubts I think sometimes there could be slight adjustments with the casinos which may look like manipulatios.

The thoughts and behavior in blaming the casino for manipulation because of the big losses they suffered are the thoughts or assumptions of people who cannot accept every loss.
Things like this happen very often, some even say everywhere that they were cheated by the casino, even though they lost money not because of fraud or embezzlement but because they lost in game or bet.
In gambling, losing is something that is bound to happen and every gambler must be able to accept it and even really let go of losing money when deciding to start gambling.

Well, I agree with this that when gambling we lose there are other people who are lucky and win, no one can always win guaranteedly from gambling and there is no way to prove that the casino is unfair or manipulates the game.
It is important to understand that every casino game has random way of working and we cannot know it, so it will be very difficult to prove that there is manipulation or cheating.

As wise gambler, we must always think that winning is only when we are lucky and gambling will always result in defeat.
When there is awareness like this, will never state that there is manipulation.
sr. member
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Just accept the fact that you are part of the 9,999 in 1:10,000 luck odds ratio. I think taking time to relax betting is still working and so the system will reset and might get a random result. If you are playing straight in a day I think that the system will detect the pattern. I am not an expert but this happened to me once with online casino where I suffer consecutive loss on a one hour gambling. It might be a coincidence but that is what I think of that pattern.
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Those point of view and beliefs would really be able to come out on the time that you had spend out all of your money or even we do say that you do hit up million mark losses but it is really just that impossible
that you wont really be ending up on being having those kind of questions in regarding your situation that you might have noticed something unusual. If you are trying to prove out that th site you are dealing with
isnt that fair then it would really be that wise that you should really be stopping  completely rather than on trying out to spend up more just to make some solid proof? There's no way that you could really be able to do
until you would really be that busting all of your account balances.

Therefore, it would really be the best thing to be done is to make yourself deal with those top ranking or considered/reputable gambling platforms on which you would really be clearing up your mind
for it to be possibly be rigged or not. Somewhat it wont really be that 100% safe or fair but basing up on rankings then you would really be that at least confident that you are dealing with the right place.
You wont really be giving out those kind of reasoning on the time that you have lost all of your balance. FOr those people who are financially capable then losing millions would be peanuts,
if they can afford or reach out these numbers then these basically means that these fellas are whale gamblers.
Someone who frequently gambles for a long time can spend all their money, especially if they don't control themselves to stop gambling, and that has happened to many gamblers, so they experience huge losses. Many of them end up losing all their money and even their savings just because they gamble and can't stop themselves when they start to lose a lot. And they will even accuse the casino of cheating them so that they lose a lot without realizing that it is their own fault. It is true that if we find the casino to be unfair, we should immediately stop gambling, withdraw all remaining money, and not use the casino again for gambling. That will help us avoid cases of casino cheating, and we can save money.

We must be able to find a casino that is truly trusted to avoid problem after problem, such as cheating, that casinos will carry out because trusted casinos will not do this. After all, it can reduce their reputation. Ultimately, many people will leave the casino. Once we find a trusted casino, we can gamble there, but we have to control ourselves because if not, we can spend a lot of money without any chance to recover the losses. Only in this way can we avoid the problem of losing money or gambling addiction because when we gamble, we definitely feel interested in playing other gambling games. Therefore, if we can control ourselves well when gambling, we will not be tempted to try gambling in a casino for a long time because we want to avoid all problems or negative effects.
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You’re right. When you’re on a losing streak, that’s when the possibility of the casino being rigged enters your head. But while winning, you’ll probably be thinking of how smart and sharp you are to predict games and win. People love to claim responsibility whenever they’re having a positive outcome and claim fraud and be in total denial whenever they’re starting to lose. I’m moved to say it’s human nature as a lot of people are guilty of this but it’s not. Not everyone claims the system is rigged whenever they’re not having the outcome they wanted. You surely have got to have real evidence of your accusations.
It's usual with people to wan to behave in such manner where they tend to think that the casino is been manipulated because some how they are on a loosing streaks but then it's important we learn to keep an open mind to the fact that it's just luck playing out.

With gambling while you loose, some one else is winning so it's almost a balanced situation and most of the time it turns out you may not be having a Lucky day and doesn't mean it's been manipulated because as you loose someone is Winning but if it were manipulated, then everyone will be loosing,. But then no doubts I think sometimes there could be slight adjustments with the casinos which may look like manipulatios.
legendary
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They have everything in an well organised framework. When we win we feel like things are good and provably fair in function. We go against them when we're on the losing side. If we make a cross check there won't be any flaw and every bet used to be fair. Our minds won't be in the state of accepting the loss and that intend us to say everything is rigged. Started the day gambling and I lost everything, I won only one bet and for the reason I don't say things were rigged. I feel like I was unlucky as the game I played was Dice. Below is the bets placed and the loss, started with $0.2 and ended with $33 emptying my wallet.

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With hundreds of players placing bets on Stake, there could always be another bettor winning on the other end, so I wouldn't say it's straight-up rigged. I've experienced the same losses whenever i'm upping my bet size, but I think it's more about the house edge tipping the numbers in favor of the casino than the game being rigged. Also, slots have one of the worst win probabilities, so it's expected to see gamblers lose frequently. I've heard a similar discussion where they said the developers can cause bigger betting sizes to lose more, but I can't tell if it's true.

Stake is considered one of those well-known and reputable gambling site that ever existed. They spend millions of dollars in marketing and advertising since they even hire famous actors and rappers (e.g. Drake) to be their brand ambassador. With that kind of money involved, I am definitely sure that there are taking extreme care of their image and reputation on the market.

If their games are rigged, then somehow or someone would have to compile and send the necessary proof to their CS. I doubt that they would risk their reputation for rigging their games and earning thousands of bucks in return.
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Goodnight, ohh Leo!!! 🦅
Computer-based games are usually rigged bruh... ain't any of those games get played luckwise... Alot of peeps would be so lucky in claiming 'em wins that a casino would fall and other would either plan on a retreat option or quit permanently...
They're also paying bills and making daily expenses; don't also forget in a hurry that it's actually a business, not a "fund raising program" whatever happens, know these facts and have 'em on your mind when dealing with casinos.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
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