Topic: Conclusion after losing millions! that games are rigged. - page 6. (Read 706 times)

First, was the money being played really from his account? I don't know but there are streamers that just playing their bankroll in which it's from the casino itself. I wonder what was the name of the casino, the slot and the provider but if it's from a reputed casino I don't think it's a rigged one. It's not necessarily rigged maybe he's just unlucky to think it is but we never know.

Is the game provably fair? if so check the seed, if the seed's repeated over and over again the site is rigged, but if he's going to use some soothsaying bullshit to suppose whether a casino is one-upping him (which surprise surprise, is completely normal, and is a thing that they call the "house edge"), then he better back his statements up with more concrete evidences instead of saying stuff.

It's fine to lose and complain especially if you're on a roll and you're seeing some patterns, but if I were that guy, it would be smarter to actually just take the magnifying glass and do some official investigation first and foremost, before jumping into conclusions. If he finds out he's telling the truth not only will he have the proofs to back it up, he would also be duly compensated for it too!

Just like on what most people been saying on here on which on the time that we are on the verge of busting our bankroll completely, then we would really be having those thoughts and doubt that we might really be that engaging on a non-fair site or simply being rigged on which this is the only time you would be making up some research and trying to look for some relevant information about scam related issues
and on the time that they have seen one then they would really be that making as their basis that they hunch was true but we know that even legit or reputable sites does have that
those common known issues on which its inevitable or something that cant be avoided.

Its true that people do really love on pointing out their fingers on the time that they are losing. Is this something a reasoning mechanism or trying out to ease their stress or pain?
We dont know but for sure each of us on the time that we are just starting gambling could really be having these kind of thoughts initially which even myself
could really be able to say that im one of those.  

Which gambling platform are you reffering to exactly?  Many of them might be rigged but the most famous and reputed ones aren't. If they were, their reputation would crumble to the dirt. By your example, I think you might have used a low class gambling site. Another thing, there is no way to confirm it's rigged, they is no backdoor to verify this. But you assumed it's properly rigged. Can't expect wins always. Can you? Gambling sites also doing their business. If they loss everything what's the point. To fix this they use an algorithm that picks random value when one bets. It ensures fairness to both sides, gambler and gambling site.

Well everyone is going to take if a casino is rigged or not, regardless of what the amount is, if my experienced. And the casino has one answer only, how about those who are winning on the other hand?

And there are ways to check whether casinos are rigged though or if they are provably fair and I think everyone should do that instead of accusing some casinos.

I'm not defending them, it's that as gamblers we always find someone to blame for our losses, but if you look closely, it is us gamblers who take that risk and betting $10 to $1 million and if it doesn't go our way, then we say that we are being cheated.

Isn't this always the case? Casinos are there to make money and not to help you with anything. They have an advantage called House Edge. They have that kind of advantage. It's never going to be with the player. They are there to entice you and give them more of your money. It's always going to be the case. The problem I think comes from the people who expect to have a lot of payback because of how much they have spent and that could be true for some case but what if you don't?

Rigged or not, there's no way that you could really be able to tell or prove out not unless if there are really that those solid evidences but in overall it is really just that a normal behavior on pointing out some fingers on the time that you would really be experiencing those losses on which it would really be just that a common approach on having such hunches and accusations without having any bases
or simply not really that something been proven out and just said out those words due to extreme frustration and anger basing up on the situation that you are facing on.
It is really just that very normal act to be done by most people and having those assumptions that those games are totally rigged. If you are really that having doubts about someones legitimacy then it would really be just that right that you should really be sticking into those places on which you do see that most people been playing because this is something that you could be able to trust on.

The randomness of games has nothing to do with graphics. In fact, crash games are some of the few that run on provable fairness no matter which platform hosts them. Learn how provably fair works, you can yourself verify randomness without any space for doubt this way.

The thing with streamers though, is that it's a whole other level of deception. They will never teach you about provable fairness, they will never tell you when they're on someone's payroll and never disclose that they are playing with provided funds. It's a crazy industry. You shouldn't trust what gambling streamers say, their shown winnings or anything. So trainwrecks is right on the first part of the video, but when he talks about seeds it gets confusing. In a normal provable fairness setting you should be able to reveal your seed when needed and also add your own inputs for generating one for extra randomness.

Also RTP doesn't work on an individual basis, it works all across the board. If you lose all of your balance there's no way you're getting  it back but the RTP means that whoever is winning gets paid more than their balance. In the long run, a game can be profitable even with 1% house edge. There's tons of games that work with such a low house edge in crypto and a good example is dice sites even prime dice and bustabit which are some of the sites with the largest potential win. Both sites are provably fair and you can test the fairness of every wager if you'd like.

The streamer you linked is a good guy, but like even the scummy gambling streamers, he doesn't explain things in a way that would teach people to stay safe. Yes, blanket statements like saying "don't gamble" throw the issue out of the window but they don't address anything. People are going to gamble anyway so they better know. So my suggestions would be:

a. learn about provable fairness
b. check your bets and verify their fairness

This way at least you won't have any doubts next time.

House game on Stake can be verified the fairness. I doubt they will rigged the game while they can be caught cheating through their probably fair system.

You only feel this because you bet big. You will notice everything if you are wagering what you can’t afford to lose since you will just ignore that bust bet if you only bet a penny on that round. Your luck is just bad at the time you choose to increase your bet. Check your bet history, You will notice that experience tons of this kind of early busy multiplier but you just not paying much attention on it because the amount involved is too small.

Rigged while you understand how the provably-fair and proof it the result is rigged.

Meanwhile, If you cannot explain or expose the provably-fair being rigged. Then, all-of-your statement is based only on opinion because you're losing like my favorite quote for gambling:
- Win = I keep playing on these casino
- Lose = This game is rigged.

If you playing type game like (Slot) or something like that (computer), you should know is not good against the player. 98-99% you are gonna to lose money, go to casino and playing (card-games) like BJ with card-counting skill at least.

One more favourite qoute

Betting more would give you the assurance of winning? Not winning means the machine or platform itself is rigged? I hope all of us are aware of what algorithm is and how it works. You are not the only player; sometimes you lose and sometimes other players are winning. But this is not to close the doors for the possibility that it is not rigged; there should be other instances as well or experiences by more players not only OP alone.

i don't think that it's rigged, it's just that the algorithm in the game regulates the game so that it won't cause any harm to the platform. the casino is a business and it is natural for them to arrange the game to make a profit for them. if you think that the game is rigged, then you just have to stop playing, it's just that easy, the casino doesn't force you to play. and if you feel that it is rigged, you must be able to prove it and state that it is rigged according to scientific evidence, if it is just a claim, people will not believe it.

With hundreds of players placing bets on Stake, there could always be another bettor winning on the other end, so I wouldn't say it's straight-up rigged. I've experienced the same losses whenever i'm upping my bet size, but I think it's more about the house edge tipping the numbers in favor of the casino than the game being rigged. Also, slots have one of the worst win probabilities, so it's expected to see gamblers lose frequently. I've heard a similar discussion where they said the developers can cause bigger betting sizes to lose more, but I can't tell if it's true.

if his seed is the same over and over it's definitely rigged but why was he playing still whichever casino he is playing.
so in stake, you think there is some sort of an AI figuring out in order for you to lose?  if there ever was a complain like that, you should be able to make a record to show that it's predetermined.

if there ever was something like this, a not-so-reputable casino would be doing it. but it always needs proof for the accusation to be true. but tell you competitors are always trying to ruin each other's reputation.   

hey guys,
I was watching this video, where a popular twitch streamer who used to gamble and stream on twitch, had betted millions on slots and on online casino and losing till now.
watch and listen that video he tells why he thinks slots is rigged, the games are not random as the website shows. if you will see his more videos you will understand why is think like that.
I think he just talked about slots, but I also think games that are told provably fair by casinos are rigged in someway.


Here's a example what happens with me:
When I bet big suddenly on crash game on stake it every time stops and seems like the computer is thinking about results after waiting for sometimes i bust at 1x to 1.10x, I would had believed that it is random when this incident happens with me once or twice but it happened with me more than 10 times, I betted my all funds but every time on crash it waits and think to how to bust me on short time.

other incidents are with mines when I bet big on mines even when selected on one bomb when i click to flip that box, the computer thinks and gives me small two or three wins then bust my all funds.
this incident is happened with me more than 6times on stake. dragon tower is father of all games here I never won on even taking lowest risk.

what do you think about this? are games which are played by computers are rigged? don't answer like we play for fun, we are responsible, we are bitcoiner we know to verify bets, etc.