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July 15, 2024, 01:05:18 PM
Back 2 back 2 back champions for Argentina! 2x Copa america and 1x World Cup. What an amazing journey has been for them and I can't wait to see Finalissima in 2025 between Spain and Argentina because this final should bring top football but with current form , I doubt anyone can stop Spain.

Now , with both Euro and Copa America gone , we the fans are a bit nostalgic right ? we used to watch football almost 24 hours per day for a month and now there is nothing to watch until top 5 Europe championships will start again.
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July 15, 2024, 12:22:11 PM
I saw Messi crying on the bench after being pulled out due to an ankle injury, he was worried that Argentina would lose without him but luckily in extra time Lautaro Martinez scored the only goal for Argentina's victory as well as winning the Coppa America this is the umpteenth trophy Messi has won he is really lucky.

Suppose Messi will retire in Argentina he will not regret it because he has got an important trophy at the end of his career World Cup and Copa America, and in addition Angel Di Maria has announced he will retire so this is a trophy for the last time, I hope Messi is still strong to face the 2026 World Cup.
Look at his foot, it's really a serious injury.



Both teams play really well, Colombia create many chance, but Martinez always able to block it and luckily Lautaro can score a goal on the extra time. Argentina deserve to win, probably in the next 2 years Colombia can become a champion.

However it's really crazy De Paul as the only one midfielder can play for 120 minutes even though he's already 30 years old.
First, I would like to congratulate Argentina on becoming champions in the 2024 Copa America, this is their 16th title in the Copa America and they have successfully defended the title they won in the previous edition.
Bad news came to their star player who was injured, it has not been confirmed whether the injury was very serious or not and only needed a short time to recover. However, judging from the swelling of his leg, it seemed like it was a serious injury that resulted in him having to be pulled out. I just hope there is no serious injury and he can return in a short time.
This match was quite fierce, Columbia put up serious resistance to Argentina. In fact, they were able to play without a goal for 90 minutes so it had to go to extra time. In the extra round, Argentina had a chance which they successfully converted into a goal and it was the deciding goal for them to become champions of the 2024 Copa America.
It was a thrilling match. At first my prediction was that maybe Argentina would seal their victory within 90 minutes but the match was very competitive. For the whole 90 minutes Colombia were able to keep their defense strong and try to constant  attacking . Although Argentina won 1-0, it must be said that Colombia played well. On the one hand Argentina was at the top of the form, on the other hand Colombia was also unbeaten in the games for their country for about 27 matches. Colombia was excellent in the group stage as well. James Rodríguez had high hopes that they would be able to fulfill their dream this year, their dream did not come true. But I'm sure if any team other than Argentina could have reached the final, Colombia would have won the Copa America this time. However, the world will praise this great achievement of Argentina.
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July 15, 2024, 12:08:11 PM
The team which did not win any international trophy for 28 years is now winning back to back international trophies. First, by winning the Copa America against Brazil, Argentina ended this 28-year misery, then the World Cup again in the Copa America, which means they have achieved everything one by one in this long period. Because of this poor performance of Argentina, Argentina was trolled a lot and now it is floating in the ocean of praise. Argentina's late-match win over Colombia in the Copa America final helped them clinch another season's Copa America title. Argentina is the only team to have won the most titles in Copa America history.  
Congratulations to Argentina for such a consistent performance to take home another international trophy.
Victory is all about time and season with the squad that you have in your team. I think this is the best Argentina national team that they have produced since history because they were able to win two big international competitions in two years which is one of the highest success that have been recorded for Argentina so far. Of course, the competition is more in their favor because they look stronger and experienced than other national teams in America and that is why they have won it the more than any other country.
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July 15, 2024, 11:59:13 AM
I was wondering why Lionel Scaloni didn't play Lautaro Martínez in the second half of normal time, even though Lautaro Martínez is the player who has helped Argentina win several matches with goals during the Copa America. Lautaro Martínez in the end really established himself as the top scorer as well as the hero of Argentina's victory in the final, he really cried because of that.
Before that I want to congratulate Argentina who managed to retain the Copa America title. There is not much I want to say about this match, just one, an extraordinary match.

Lautaro Martinez is the key when Scaloni's strategy is deadlocked in every crucial match. Lautaro seems to be unable to play well when he is played as a starter like when he played against Ecuador in the quarter-finals.
This is not necessarily true, but this is just my assumption why Lautaro was played in the second half of normal time.
In fact, Lo Celso, who was brought on together with Lautaro in the 97th minute, was the player who recorded the assist for Argentina's winning goal scored by Lautaro.

But even though Argentina managed to get the Copa America trophy, it still made me lose my bet because I bet in 90 minutes of regular time. But yes, that's not important because the most important thing is that Argentina managed to retain the Copa America trophy and also made a good end for Di Maria and also Messi who decided to retire playing in the Argentine national team after this Copa America final match. But yes, it's a shame that Messi also suffered an injury in this final match and made him unable to play until the end of the match.

But, about the talk of Lautaro Martinez not being played in the second half of regular time, maybe it was also a Lionel Scaloni strategy. Because it is possible that Scaloni is really preparing for Martinez to play in the extra half because Argentina also seems to be defending more in this match because Colombia is also quite high in controlling the course of this match. Thus,  including Martinez in the extra half like that is certainly the right way to make Argentina still have a strong attacking power in such a tired time in extra time.
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July 15, 2024, 11:55:48 AM
The team which did not win any international trophy for 28 years is now winning back to back international trophies. First, by winning the Copa America against Brazil, Argentina ended this 28-year misery, then the World Cup again in the Copa America, which means they have achieved everything one by one in this long period. Because of this poor performance of Argentina, Argentina was trolled a lot and now it is floating in the ocean of praise. Argentina's late-match win over Colombia in the Copa America final helped them clinch another season's Copa America title. Argentina is the only team to have won the most titles in Copa America history.  
Congratulations to Argentina for such a consistent performance to take home another international trophy.

They didn't win trophies for a long time, even with Messi, but recently they have made up for their shortcomings. The final was a game where both teams avoided making mistakes and took few risks. Messi's injury made Argentina think that things would go badly for them, but they managed to win the match.

We will see in the upcoming tournaments what Argentina will be like without Messi and whether Argentina's success can continue without Messi in the team.
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July 15, 2024, 11:49:47 AM
The team which did not win any international trophy for 28 years is now winning back to back international trophies. First, by winning the Copa America against Brazil, Argentina ended this 28-year misery, then the World Cup again in the Copa America, which means they have achieved everything one by one in this long period. Because of this poor performance of Argentina, Argentina was trolled a lot and now it is floating in the ocean of praise. Argentina's late-match win over Colombia in the Copa America final helped them clinch another season's Copa America title. Argentina is the only team to have won the most titles in Copa America history.  
Congratulations to Argentina for such a consistent performance to take home another international trophy.
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July 15, 2024, 11:46:15 AM
I was wondering why Lionel Scaloni didn't play Lautaro Martínez in the second half of normal time, even though Lautaro Martínez is the player who has helped Argentina win several matches with goals during the Copa America. Lautaro Martínez in the end really established himself as the top scorer as well as the hero of Argentina's victory in the final, he really cried because of that.
Before that I want to congratulate Argentina who managed to retain the Copa America title. There is not much I want to say about this match, just one, an extraordinary match.

Lautaro Martinez is the key when Scaloni's strategy is deadlocked in every crucial match. Lautaro seems to be unable to play well when he is played as a starter like when he played against Ecuador in the quarter-finals.
This is not necessarily true, but this is just my assumption why Lautaro was played in the second half of normal time.
In fact, Lo Celso, who was brought on together with Lautaro in the 97th minute, was the player who recorded the assist for Argentina's winning goal scored by Lautaro.
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July 15, 2024, 11:35:23 AM
Crying for me is a normal reaction for an athlete who really have so much love and passion for this sports. As this was said to be his last COPA America game, for sure, he would want this to be a memorable one for him and his team. He may not be the one to get the score for his team, but winning for one last time will be a very memorable legacy to leave behind.

I think the cry was not for Messi himself but he wanted to remain in the action and make his team win the title. When he moved out of field, it gave a sign of relief to the opposition. The good thing was that Argentina won the final, if they had lost it, he would have even more sad for his injury.

It was Lautaro Martínez who scored for Argentina and this was the decisive moment of the game. I thought we were going towards plenty shoot out but Martínez had some other plans.

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July 15, 2024, 11:32:33 AM
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I saw Messi crying on the bench after being pulled out due to an ankle injury, he was worried that Argentina would lose without him but luckily in extra time Lautaro Martinez scored the only goal for Argentina's victory as well as winning the Coppa America this is the umpteenth trophy Messi has won he is really lucky.

Suppose Messi will retire in Argentina he will not regret it because he has got an important trophy at the end of his career World Cup and Copa America, and in addition Angel Di Maria has announced he will retire so this is a trophy for the last time, I hope Messi is still strong to face the 2026 World Cup.
Argentina played with good spirit and never gave up. They won the 2024 Copa America title with great difficulty, but in the end their efforts were rewarded by Martinez's only goal. Messi cried because he really couldn't accept being injured in the final when his country played against a really strong team, but he laughed in the end after Argentina ended the match with a 1-0 win over Colombia.

I was wondering why Lionel Scaloni didn't play Lautaro Martínez in the second half of normal time, even though Lautaro Martínez is the player who has helped Argentina win several matches with goals during the Copa America. Lautaro Martínez in the end really established himself as the top scorer as well as the hero of Argentina's victory in the final, he really cried because of that. Some older players will retire, but I'm not sure if Messi will announce it too.
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July 15, 2024, 11:24:16 AM
I saw Messi crying on the bench after being pulled out due to an ankle injury, he was worried that Argentina would lose without him but luckily in extra time Lautaro Martinez scored the only goal for Argentina's victory as well as winning the Coppa America this is the umpteenth trophy Messi has won he is really lucky.

Suppose Messi will retire in Argentina he will not regret it because he has got an important trophy at the end of his career World Cup and Copa America, and in addition Angel Di Maria has announced he will retire so this is a trophy for the last time, I hope Messi is still strong to face the 2026 World Cup.
Look at his foot, it's really a serious injury.



Both teams play really well, Colombia create many chance, but Martinez always able to block it and luckily Lautaro can score a goal on the extra time. Argentina deserve to win, probably in the next 2 years Colombia can become a champion.

However it's really crazy De Paul as the only one midfielder can play for 120 minutes even though he's already 30 years old.
First, I would like to congratulate Argentina on becoming champions in the 2024 Copa America, this is their 16th title in the Copa America and they have successfully defended the title they won in the previous edition.
Bad news came to their star player who was injured, it has not been confirmed whether the injury was very serious or not and only needed a short time to recover. However, judging from the swelling of his leg, it seemed like it was a serious injury that resulted in him having to be pulled out. I just hope there is no serious injury and he can return in a short time.
This match was quite fierce, Columbia put up serious resistance to Argentina. In fact, they were able to play without a goal for 90 minutes so it had to go to extra time. In the extra round, Argentina had a chance which they successfully converted into a goal and it was the deciding goal for them to become champions of the 2024 Copa America.
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July 15, 2024, 11:22:46 AM
The Copa America final match between Argentina and Colombia was very fierce, fortunately Argentina managed to emerge as champions in the end. I think Argentia success is in line with the predictions of many bettors, where Argentina was very much favored as champion before the competition started. Argentina is very lucky to have a number of players who can make a difference, Lautaro Martinez became the hero of Argentina victory thanks to his goal in the 112th minute, in the end Argentina managed to retain the trophy. Colombia actually played quite well, they managed to put up a tough fight, and I think they were just unlucky.

Yeah, Argentina has proven again that they have a strong mentality even though it has to go through extra time but the final result still made Argentina the winner. At first I thought Colombia could surprise us all because I know they have also played well in the last few matches but experience can bring Argentina to its highest point, Colombia should have been able to draw so they could go to penalties, unfortunately not.

Messi may be the luckiest player because he can win the 2 most prestigious trophies before retiring and now is the right time for him to retire comfortably, Lautaro Martínez also deserves appreciation and can replace Messi's position as a mainstay player, he proved that he would become one of the most dangerous strikers in the world.
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July 15, 2024, 11:02:28 AM
I saw the match and I must say that I was very sorry for Messi's injury but with Lautaro they managed to win a match that seemed closed and that I didn't think had been resolved like this with Lautaro, people always say badly about this player because according to I don't play for a top club but he plays for Inter if he had played for other teams we would be talking about a champion but instead he is always talked about as if he wasn't good, congratulations to Argentina
Messi's injury really made me feel bad, for the love of game it is expected we support and encourage anyone facing difficulty.
Messi was a man who had everything. But it surprised me how he was crying and still cared so much about an award he'd already won before. I know he cared because it's also about the reputation of his country. No doubt people called him the GOAT, and he is truly the definition of football.

I wasn't even expecting it to happen with him. In the end, Messi was still lifting the trophy, and it was his second trophy of Copa America. What a journey for him. After he had won World cup, then he got another major achievement.

Messi has collected 45 trophies in total. The real GOAT.

Crying for me is a normal reaction for an athlete who really have so much love and passion for this sports. As this was said to be his last COPA America game, for sure, he would want this to be a memorable one for him and his team. He may not be the one to get the score for his team, but winning for one last time will be a very memorable legacy to leave behind.

Also, on the note about the ankle sprain, it was later revealed that he suffered a grade 3 level of ankle sprain - it is the extreme level of ankle sprain. I had this before and took me like about half a year to fully recover. You maybe can walk after a couple of months but how you walk would not be the same as compared to when you are in normal mode. Since he has great people surrounding him, for sure, they will find a way for him to recover faster. However, not seeing him in the field for the next couple of months for me is very understandable given the degree of his sprain he suffered.

I can understand very well how swollen it can become right after the incident inside the field. That's actually very painful!


Source : New picture shows Lionel Messi's gruesome ankle injury that left him in tears during Argentina's Copa America final win over Colombia
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July 15, 2024, 10:49:26 AM
Look at his foot, it's really a serious injury.



Both teams play really well, Colombia create many chance, but Martinez always able to block it and luckily Lautaro can score a goal on the extra time. Argentina deserve to win, probably in the next 2 years Colombia can become a champion.
It's truuu...ly serious.

The video only shows that Messi slipped on the field by himself and I guessed he got problems with his knees, not with his ankle or foot like this.

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However it's really crazy De Paul as the only one midfielder can play for 120 minutes even though he's already 30 years old.
When rules allow only three substitutions in a match, players around 30 years old can play full 120 minutes. Nowadays, since Covid-19, with 5 substitutions a match, coaches don't want to overuse players and give advantage to opponents that use more substitutions. Coaches have to react properly with tactical and player changes from opponent.

De Paul played well and actually shown his strength. In World Cup 2022, I did not about this player and Alexis Mac Allister too but these midfielders played impressively. They became more famous since World Cup 2022 and their great energy helps to cover lack of defense contribution from Messi.
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July 15, 2024, 10:47:34 AM
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Look at his foot, it's really a serious injury.



Both teams play really well, Colombia create many chance, but Martinez always able to block it and luckily Lautaro can score a goal on the extra time. Argentina deserve to win, probably in the next 2 years Colombia can become a champion.
The pain that Messi experienced immediately disappeared after Lautaro managed to score the winning goal for Argentina, apart from that, his worry also disappeared after he was unable to continue playing. Colombia managed to overwhelm Argentina, they played very well on all fronts, especially in the defensive area which made it difficult for Argentine players to score goals. Argentina managed to win the Copa America in a row, this success is the result of their hard work so far.
Now what comes to my mind, after Messi succeeded in bringing Argentina to win the Copa America, whether he will return to the competition for the world's best player. So what about Vinicius' chances of failing to help Brazil while he succeeded in achieving success with Real Madrid?
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July 15, 2024, 10:45:28 AM
I saw the match and I must say that I was very sorry for Messi's injury but with Lautaro they managed to win a match that seemed closed and that I didn't think had been resolved like this with Lautaro, people always say badly about this player because according to I don't play for a top club but he plays for Inter if he had played for other teams we would be talking about a champion but instead he is always talked about as if he wasn't good, congratulations to Argentina
Messi's injury really made me feel bad, for the love of game it is expected we support and encourage anyone facing difficulty.
Messi was a man who had everything. But it surprised me how he was crying and still cared so much about an award he'd already won before. I know he cared because it's also about the reputation of his country. No doubt people called him the GOAT, and he is truly the definition of football.

I wasn't even expecting it to happen with him. In the end, Messi was still lifting the trophy, and it was his second trophy of Copa America. What a journey for him. After he had won World cup, then he got another major achievement.

Messi has collected 45 trophies in total. The real GOAT.
Messi can't really be compared to anything, but Messi is compared to Messi himself. I have rarely seen Messi as tense as he was from the outside in the last minute of the game due to injury. Argentina's goal in the 112th minute to become the 16th Copa America champion is truly a matter of pride for Argentina. It is truly an incomparable miracle for Messi to reach two consecutive milestones by winning the Copa America and the World Cup at the same time. Messi is a footballer that the whole world will remember for the rest of his life, just as the football world will remember for a long time the extraordinary game that Di Maria and his teammates gave today.
Congratulations to Argentina for winning the Copa America for the 16th time.
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July 15, 2024, 10:41:56 AM

A hard-fought battle between the two teams eventually saw Argentina emerge as champions, but we certainly saw more competition in this match. Although the Colombian team tried until the last moment to clinch the trophy, they lost unfortunately due to a goal in extra time. L. Martínez's goal saw Argentina leave the field with a remarkable victory and lift the Copa América trophy. If Messi could have played this match at the end, maybe Argentina would have won by a good margin earlier, but the team was under a lot of pressure due to injuries. Last minute, L. Martínez put the team back in the lead with a fantastic goal, and it's really interesting that the Argentine team is the champion.

The deed has been done by Argentine so nothing can be done, congratulations to Argentine for been the winner of Copa America 2024, Lautaro Martinez put an end to the Colombia unbeaten which make me sad because I really want them to win this trophy but unfortunately they lost.

Am really happy for Angel Di Maria for having a good ending in the national team, he has done a lot for them for give them must important goals the team need when they need it, he is indeed a legend the can be remembered, he scored goals in three final which makes him special among other, he has a beautiful career.
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July 15, 2024, 10:36:57 AM
I saw the match and I must say that I was very sorry for Messi's injury but with Lautaro they managed to win a match that seemed closed and that I didn't think had been resolved like this with Lautaro, people always say badly about this player because according to I don't play for a top club but he plays for Inter if he had played for other teams we would be talking about a champion but instead he is always talked about as if he wasn't good, congratulations to Argentina
Messi's injury really made me feel bad, for the love of game it is expected we support and encourage anyone facing difficulty.
Messi was a man who had everything. But it surprised me how he was crying and still cared so much about an award he'd already won before. I know he cared because it's also about the reputation of his country. No doubt people called him the GOAT, and he is truly the definition of football.

I wasn't even expecting it to happen with him. In the end, Messi was still lifting the trophy, and it was his second trophy of Copa America. What a journey for him. After he had won World cup, then he got another major achievement.

Messi has collected 45 trophies in total. The real GOAT.
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July 15, 2024, 10:20:59 AM
I saw it too, the final match was very dramatic and made us think that maybe Argentina will lose, seeing Messi sad about the possibility of losing indicates that he is very worried about his country, fortunately indeed Lautaro Martinez got his goal to be able to win the Copa America, watching this match made many people bet that it was impossible that Argentina would lose, Di Maria got it and it was the most beautiful goodbye for him.

For the match in the world cup it is still not possible to determine because it seems that many teams are experiencing a very good increase in strength, as well as Spain who won the Euro, it will be a big threat to Argentina, Lionel Messi may need to work hard once again to be able to get his last trophy before he retires, where Messi also does not have the performance when he was young who was very aggressive and very feared by many opponents because of his ability, now he can't move much because his ability has decreased, it will be lucky for him if he manages to get the world cup at the end of his career..
The Copa America final match between Argentina and Colombia was very fierce, fortunately Argentina managed to emerge as champions in the end. I think Argentia success is in line with the predictions of many bettors, where Argentina was very much favored as champion before the competition started. Argentina is very lucky to have a number of players who can make a difference, Lautaro Martinez became the hero of Argentina victory thanks to his goal in the 112th minute, in the end Argentina managed to retain the trophy. Colombia actually played quite well, they managed to put up a tough fight, and I think they were just unlucky.

On the other hand, regarding Messi future with the Argentine national team in the future, currently it is still very difficult to predict, and Messi himself has not decided anything regarding his future. Now they will celebrate their victory, and may reconsider the possibility of strengthening Argentina in the 2026 World Cup. He is no longer young, but Argentina really needs his contribution, there is no player who has complete attributes like Messi. Apart from that, Di Maria job is finished, he ended his career beautifully as Copa America champion.
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July 15, 2024, 10:19:00 AM
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I saw Messi crying on the bench after being pulled out due to an ankle injury, he was worried that Argentina would lose without him but luckily in extra time Lautaro Martinez scored the only goal for Argentina's victory as well as winning the Coppa America this is the umpteenth trophy Messi has won he is really lucky.

Suppose Messi will retire in Argentina he will not regret it because he has got an important trophy at the end of his career World Cup and Copa America, and in addition Angel Di Maria has announced he will retire so this is a trophy for the last time, I hope Messi is still strong to face the 2026 World Cup.
Nobody likes Messi crying. When the legend, the greatest, hurts, we hurt too. You know what? That makes him wonderful. He cares. He risks everything for his team and nation. Even off the field, he leads and motivates his teammates. Lautaro rose to the occasion. Pure class was the goal. Argentina's not a one-man show. Many winners on the team. Truthfully, Messi is the team's soul. He's experienced it everything. Ups, downs, retirement, comeback. Despite winning everything, he's hungry. That distinguishes good from great. This Finalissima against Spain? Messi has another chance to prove he's the best. You know what? He's worth betting on. He wins. A champion. He's Messi.
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July 15, 2024, 08:32:59 AM
Messi have already passed his prime but i think this is could be fantastic achievement from Messi because before he will retired finally Messi can bringing Argentina to gets 1 more trophy besides world cup trophy
Sure the final was interesting, he had a swollen ankle I saw that. He also appeared to be crying. But the Messi exit is not a problem for Argentina. Argentina still won and won the Copa America. Maybe he was sad because he couldn't play. It is also possible that this could be the last Copa America for him. But Argentina has learned, without Messi in the 2nd half. Congratulations Messi, you have a complete trophy. The World Cup and the Copa America in addition to the European title and the Spanish League.  
I saw Messi crying on the bench after being pulled out due to an ankle injury, he was worried that Argentina would lose without him but luckily in extra time Lautaro Martinez scored the only goal for Argentina's victory as well as winning the Coppa America this is the umpteenth trophy Messi has won he is really lucky.

Suppose Messi will retire in Argentina he will not regret it because he has got an important trophy at the end of his career World Cup and Copa America, and in addition Angel Di Maria has announced he will retire so this is a trophy for the last time, I hope Messi is still strong to face the 2026 World Cup.
I saw it too, the final match was very dramatic and made us think that maybe Argentina will lose, seeing Messi sad about the possibility of losing indicates that he is very worried about his country, fortunately indeed Lautaro Martinez got his goal to be able to win the Copa America, watching this match made many people bet that it was impossible that Argentina would lose, Di Maria got it and it was the most beautiful goodbye for him.

For the match in the world cup it is still not possible to determine because it seems that many teams are experiencing a very good increase in strength, as well as Spain who won the Euro, it will be a big threat to Argentina, Lionel Messi may need to work hard once again to be able to get his last trophy before he retires, where Messi also does not have the performance when he was young who was very aggressive and very feared by many opponents because of his ability, now he can't move much because his ability has decreased, it will be lucky for him if he manages to get the world cup at the end of his career..
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