Topic: Copa America 2024 Prediction Thread - page 56. (Read 7249 times)

It is a pity that Neymar is not included in the Brazil squad in this Copa America but indeed, the injury factor experienced by Neymar may also be one of the factors that Neymar is no longer included in the Brazil squad at this moment. But indeed, although Neymar is a star player, but Neymar very often suffers from long injuries and thus, Neymar is not fully successful to give many trophies to Brazil. But about Brazil's chances in this Copa America which is joined in group D with Paraguay, Colombia and Costa Rica, I personally believe that Brazil will be able to qualify maybe until the final match vs Argentina, who knows. Because anyway, even though there is no Neymar in the Brazilian squad, but the fact is that Brazil still has many great players and is still relatively young too and thus, their ambition is very high to achieve good results with the Brazilian national team.

The Copa America is generally dominated by Argentina and Brazil, two giants in the football world. No team has consistently outperformed these two sides in the tournament history. Argentina, boasting a blend of experienced players such as Messi and Martinez alongside some young talent, stands a good chance at defending their title. On the other hand, Brazil, although more dependent on young players, still emerges as a strong contender due to their quality intrinsic and considerable potential.

It is indeed possible that other teams could surprise but considering the history and strength of the squad, Argentina and Brazil remain the strongest contenders for clinching the Copa America title. Their players' balance plus quality makes them not easy to beat by any other teams on the American continent.

Well, that with Brazil is difficult to define, they always have it, what is known is that one of the best golden generations of all time that never won a World Cup, and could not win anything, was Brazil in the 70s and the 80s, Zico, Socrates, Junior and company, were one of the best teams of all time, they didn't win anything.

Almost the same thing happens with Argentina, only it was not marked as a failure, because Messi, Di Maria, and a couple of other players maintained the image of that great generation that almost left without a great title.

The point is, that with teams like Argentina and Brazil it is difficult to mention that the golden generations are never there, they always have elite teams/goldens.



 

Maybe you tried to mention: "the commitment" to his national team and not think so much about the millions he earns in his clubs...

Is there a better team than Argentina and Brazil so far in the Copa America?
So far we know Brazil and Argentina are two big teams that continue to be giants in the Americas, their dominance in the Copa America is certainly not in doubt, so indeed for the current Copa America of course they are strong candidates to be able to become champions, Argentina previously managed to win the Copa America and with a squad that was indeed filled by the majority of players in the previous Copa of course it is not impossible for them to be able to win the Copa America consecutively, Brazil, which is currently starting to rely on young players, of course, is still worthy of the favorite even though their chances are not better than Argentina in my opinion.

Argentina is so far a team that has a quite capable squad by still relying on Messi and Martinez in the front line, so we can indeed say that if their squad is quite balanced with a combination of young players, indeed we cannot deny that other teams can give a surprise in the Copa but I think they are not capable enough to be able to break the dominance of Brazil and Argentina so far.

The golden generation cannot be golden all the time and that’s what is happening to Brazil at the moment. They were times in which at every tournament they are the favourites but right now they’re ain’t up there with best. This is not even about not having the best players but the commitment to me is lacking. People say they lack players and I said no, the players might not be that great as in the past but they definitely do. Take away Neymar who to me after his breakout World Cup in their own country hasn’t lived up to that expectations again with numerous number of injuries hindering his progress and also his ability to win the Ballon d’Or

But let’s take a look at other players the likes of Vinicius are still in their peak and arguably the Best player currently in the world. Coupled with other players who are doing well in their clubs I think they can actually go on to win any tournament if they are committed and well prepared. Let’s take a look at Argentina, aside Messi in the current squad no player can be considered to be easily in the top 10 in the world and yet they are the best men national team at the moment. They once had the golden generations also but wasted them too due to lack of commitment but now even the average players playing with their hearts are taking the nation to glory.

It was said that it was just part of an advertisement, Ronaldinho didn't really say it. Many people were shaken after Ronaldinho made this statement, the actual fact is that Ronaldinho still supports the Brazilian national team wholeheartedly. Rapinha had time to respond to this statement, and she was also wobbly. Indeed, the current Brazilian squad is very different from a decade ago, but they still have the mentality of a winning team. In my opinion, Brazil glorious era is not over yet, they still have a young generation who has the potential to take Brazil back to the top. Vinicius and Rodrygo will lead Brazil in the future, young talents like Endrick will also be a new hope. Brazil performance in the World Cup qualifiers was very disappointing, but they have a chance to qualify. Meanwhile, Brazil chances in the Copa America are quite good, they have a strength that is almost close to Argentina.

I really like this Uruguayan team, it has one of the best midfielders in Brazilian football: De Arrascaeta... and it also has De La Cruz and Suarez... maybe the Uruguayan team can have an excellent championship, as it doesn't have as much pressure as it is not considered a favorite, but it could very well surprise.

Well there are the two favorite's and also the two finalists last year so I would not be surprised if the two can emulate such success again in the Copa America. But football sometimes is filled with suprises and I remember one particular period when Chile held the title with firm hands as they won Argentina twice in the finals but as for now the Chilean team can't boast of such strength again.

You like him more than I do 
In my opinion, if he was more humble and had a good mentality, he would have won a lot more titles and maybe even a World Cup

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Now that I'm going to take part in the Poll I have to study the groups and teams well to try and get as many results as possible hehehe
Apart from the poll, I'll still be placing my bets as normal, I've even sorted out my bankroll because the Copa America is starting in 3 days' time, I'm really looking forward to it

Yes @famososMuertos I'll take a look, thank you so much.

Regarding the Brazil section with what Dinho said, well those are very strong words and it's really hard to contradict a player of that age, that's like saying no to Ronaldo or Roberto Carlos , what I think is that the players now have a very different way of Seeing things than the players of the old days, I hope that group in general improves, there the one who has to Carry the team on his shoulders is Neymar Jr.

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Well, guys, it's already started and it looks great. We're all in suspense. I can't hide my excitement. The truth is that football is the most beautiful sport in the world (as they say on ESPN). I think the fact that we're watching the COPA America in the same month as the Euro Cup and then the Olympic Games are coming up is priceless. Then there's the South American football qualifiers which are also exciting. This is something that's going to keep us all in suspense. Sharing here with everyone and their ways of seeing football enriches and shows that football unites.

Yes indeed, regarding the Copa America I think the biggest chance to win and get the trophy is about Brazil and Argentina but even so, in reality Brazil and Argentina also don't always succeed in getting it. Because, on several previous occasions, the Copa America trophy was won by teams such as Chile, Uruguay, Colombia and several other teams also experienced success, such as Peru, Paraguay and also Bolovia. But even so, still, the flags of Brazil and Argentina remain the biggest candidates to win the trophy, moreover Brazil and  Argentina always produce or have potential young players. Therefore, I think it makes sense that Brazil and Argentina are thebiggest candidate teams to win the Copa America trophy at this moment.

Neymar, despite having chosen to be a celebrity instead of an athlete, is still the best Brazilian player in activity, he has been leading the Brazilian team for more than 10 years... He is the last of what could be called a "star" Brazilian, that is, a player who has all the fundamentals of a great player... the rest of the Brazilian team only has "ok" or "common" players... There is nothing that can be done, this generation of Brazilians It's very weak compared to what it had in the past

I'm not sure if this current Brazil team is the worst (probably not), but we have to give coach Dorival Jr a chance to show his work in a competition

As for the players, I agree. In the past, Brazilians were very proud of players, in the most recent history of soccer that I follow: Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos, Cafu, Taffarel, Romário (who in 2002 there was a great popular appeal to take him to the World Cup, but Felipão didn't)

Nowadays, if you ask people, most of them don't like these players very much, even Neymar, to tell you the truth I don't like him too much, He is very good playing soccer, but he loses his mind everytime we need him, he make a lot of child mistakes in the field

I think Brazil will do a good Copa America, reaching at least a semi final

I did not watch this warm-up match between Argentina and Guatemala due to my busy schedule but I did not miss watching the highlights of this match. When I was watching the highlights of the match between these two teams on my computer I saw that Di Maria took a bicycle kick like Ronaldo. But luckily it wasn't a goal, the ball went over the bar then it was great to watch I was amazed that even at such an old age, she carried such a young body and carried such a great short.

In the end, Argentina team won this match by 4-1 Goals. Maybe before the start of the Copa America, they are letting it be known that they are going to be champions again. There may be a lot of hope for the Argentina team this time too as they look relatively stronger than the other teams. 2024 Copa America may feature Argentina's full strength team.

No surprises here, Argentina beat Guatemala with two goals from Messi, but Guatemala surprised everyone by scoring in the first five minutes..

Arg 4 - Gua 1

In the match of another favorite to win the Copa America, Colombia 3 - Bolivia 0

Ronaldinho Gaúcho recently gave an interview saying that he stopped supporting and watching matches of the Brazilian team... He said that this team lacks absolutely everything: determination, will, disposition, standard of play... there was extremely heavy criticism of the team ... In a way I agree with him, after all, for me this current Brazilian team is the worst of all time.

Is there anything similar to me watching the Copa America later just waiting for Brazil and Argentina performance? Meanwhile, other national teams are less interesting to watch. Maybe Uruguay isn't that bad, but what is clear is that many people close to me say the Copa America will be just like the two big matches of Brazil and Argentina. I don't know why other national teams are only considered as additional entertainment that is not fun to watch.

We often get to hear this statement, Messi not being able to do what he does back then not until he enters the field then we begin to see something spectacular as usual from same alien Messi. Do we call Brazil the favourite base on the involvement of Endrick, if so then we should be able to easily picture the influence of Messi on the team. Brazil will play on different abilities compared to Argentina squad who are down and willing to sacrifice everything they got just to win the Cup because clearly they understand the presence of of Messi and wouldn't want to limit his possibilities of winning it, all players becomes aggressive than usual just to secure this victory by all means.

That is a fact that cannot be denied, because Brazil is now experiencing a slight setback for the Copa America trophy this time. Argentina is a strong candidate to win, they have better and more even squad depth in every line, but Brazil is still one of the teams to be taken into account. That's right, the journey of the two teams in the World Cup qualifying rounds was very different, no one expected Brazil to perform that badly. Losing Neymar to injury may be one factor, and changes in management within the Brazilian football federation are also another reason. Ancelotti was linked with becoming manager, before they finally appointed Dorival Junior.

On the other hand, Brazil is in group D with Colombia, Paraguay and Costa Rica in the Copa America, I think they will be able to qualify for the next round with the status of group winners. Overall, Argentina is the favorite to win the Copa America, Messi presence has a big influence on their mentality. Dorival Junior needs hard work to bring Brazil to the top of its performance, encouraging its players to unleash their full potential, Vinicius, Rodrygo and Endrick could be the hope this time.

As for my favourites in these 4 groups:

• Argentina would be the leader in Messi's lead in Group A. I think Chile will finish as 2nd.
• I'm having quite much difficulty between Mexico and Ecuador for 1st place as for Group B. But these two should be able to qualify no matter what.
• My favourite to lead is Uruguay in Group C and USA should be right behind.
• In Group D, I believe in Brazil to be at top. We don't have much idea about Dorival Júnior yet but I still expect this. Colombia should be finishing behind.

Brazil - Argentina would be the best final matchup here.    Honestly I would like to see Brazil winning something finally so I hope they make it.