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legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
March 23, 2020, 05:09:37 PM
It's possible to take too much of just about anything, right? How does anybody really know until he notches the amount up and up until he finds his own limit? Doesn't excessive V-C generally just pass?

Cool

It passes but too much passing through at the same time can cause diarrhea and GI upset.

and in turn depletes the body of nutrients. knee shot.
legendary
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March 23, 2020, 04:45:48 PM
It's possible to take too much of just about anything, right? How does anybody really know until he notches the amount up and up until he finds his own limit? Doesn't excessive V-C generally just pass?

Cool

It passes but too much passing through at the same time can cause diarrhea and GI upset.
legendary
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Merit: 1373
March 23, 2020, 04:18:22 PM
^^^ Four to six grams of vitamin C, daily.     Cool

Diarrhea guaranteed!
For the extra cleansing effectzx  Cheesy

Vitamin C is very safe but once you go past 2,000mg it can cause GI upset including diarrhea.

Is it possible to take too much vitamin C?
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/vitamin-c/faq-20058030

It's possible to take too much of just about anything, right? How does anybody really know until he notches the amount up and up until he finds his own limit? Doesn't excessive V-C generally just pass?

Cool
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1055
March 23, 2020, 04:05:23 PM
^^^ Four to six grams of vitamin C, daily.     Cool

Diarrhea guaranteed!
For the extra cleansing effectzx  Cheesy

Vitamin C is very safe but once you go past 2,000mg it can cause GI upset including diarrhea.

Is it possible to take too much vitamin C?
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/vitamin-c/faq-20058030
legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
March 23, 2020, 03:57:15 PM
Until there is a definitive treatment available for this one reasonable strategy for those at risk of being exposed to this is to take immune boosting supplements that have been documented to be safe and potentially effective against other viral causes of respiratory pneumonia.

There is no guarantee that a protective effect that helps against rhinovirus or influenza will cross over and help with coronavirus but it might and most of these supplements are safe with limited downsides.

The following are two supplements I have purchased and have on hand to take immediately if I develop any respiratory symptoms. I have also listed the studies that show these agents appear to be helpful at least with influenza. Hopefully their protective effect will cross over to coronavirus although this is unknown.


Elderberry Extract

Randomized study of the efficacy and safety of oral elderberry extract in the treatment of influenza A and B virus infections.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15080016

Elderberry Supplementation Reduces Cold Duration and Symptoms in Air-Travellers: A Randomized, Double-Blind Placebo-Controlled Clinical Trial
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4848651/

Vitamin C

The effectiveness of vitamin C in preventing and relieving the symptoms of virus-induced respiratory infections.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10543583

The relationship between vitamin C dosage and its effects on the duration of the common cold symptoms.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170330115246.htm

What I am personally doing it taking 1,000mg of vitamin C daily and if I develop symptoms of respiratory illness I will start taking the elderberry.

Keto diet!
Strengthens mucous virus barriers.

Read:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31732517

https://www.inverse.com/article/60949-keto-diet-influenza-fight-infection

Don't trust pseudoscience. Taking vitamin C makes much more sense as a preventative measure.

^^^ Four to six grams of vitamin C, daily.     Cool

Diarrhea guaranteed!
For the extra cleansing effectzx  Cheesy
legendary
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March 23, 2020, 03:55:25 PM
^^^ Four to six grams of vitamin C, daily.     Cool
legendary
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March 23, 2020, 03:34:41 PM
Until there is a definitive treatment available for this one reasonable strategy for those at risk of being exposed to this is to take immune boosting supplements that have been documented to be safe and potentially effective against other viral causes of respiratory pneumonia.

There is no guarantee that a protective effect that helps against rhinovirus or influenza will cross over and help with coronavirus but it might and most of these supplements are safe with limited downsides.

The following are two supplements I have purchased and have on hand to take immediately if I develop any respiratory symptoms. I have also listed the studies that show these agents appear to be helpful at least with influenza. Hopefully their protective effect will cross over to coronavirus although this is unknown.


Elderberry Extract

Randomized study of the efficacy and safety of oral elderberry extract in the treatment of influenza A and B virus infections.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15080016

Elderberry Supplementation Reduces Cold Duration and Symptoms in Air-Travellers: A Randomized, Double-Blind Placebo-Controlled Clinical Trial
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4848651/

Vitamin C

The effectiveness of vitamin C in preventing and relieving the symptoms of virus-induced respiratory infections.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10543583

The relationship between vitamin C dosage and its effects on the duration of the common cold symptoms.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/03/170330115246.htm

What I am personally doing it taking 1,000mg of vitamin C daily and if I develop symptoms of respiratory illness I will start taking the elderberry.
legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
March 23, 2020, 03:11:08 PM
Soon in 'murica:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgYL4rZC0v8

[irony disclaimer]
sr. member
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Pro financial, medical liberty
March 23, 2020, 02:23:39 PM

Jonathan Van-Tam, Deputy Chief Medical Officer for England, said people who receive a free flu jab should be extra cautious
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8121209/Millions-asthma-patients-self-isolate-12-weeks-avoid-coronavirus-doctor-warns.html
legendary
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March 23, 2020, 10:03:57 AM

Your car analogy is trash. I never claimed the article proved the other independent statement I made. I didn't say it has to be a bio-weapon, only that it could be. Nutilduuuh is explicitly claiming their own article proves it could not be made in a lab because there are no markers from genetic engineering. This assumption is false. There is no debate over this fact.

Silly rabbit!  You don't need a legitimate, coherent, or logically valid argument as long as you echo the standard approved position of corp/gov/media.  You haven't figured that out already?

legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
March 23, 2020, 09:31:30 AM
IT IS A FACT viruses can have their mutations accelerated in a lab by infecting lots of animal subjects, and selecting for preferable mutation traits. This is NOT something that would be distinguishable from natural mutation.

You suffer from severe cognitive dissonance. Biological warfare is a real thing. Deception is a key facet of warfare. The fact is this is but one way this disease could have been manipulated in a lab without leaving markers from genetic engineering.

i feel before people even do research. they form their own theeory/opinion/conspiracy and then go full retard trying to fund single sentance exerts out of whole page documents which seem slightly following their initial idea. and then use it to then pretend the whole report backs up their opinion. thus reenforcing their opinion..

a car can run you over. this does not mean all cars will run everyone over. this does not mean you should just cross the road without looking because you think you can just blame the car. it doesnt mean all accidents are car related. nor does it mean knowing cars are dangerous you can blame them and want them to stop thinking if there were no cars then there would be no accidents.

the whole report said that the virus was done by natural processes not lab biohacking DNA alterations. it doesnt even say the cause is actually from lab selective breeding.
just because it says a possible thing doesnt mean its proof of that thing being the answer/cause

Your car analogy is trash. I never claimed the article proved the other independent statement I made. I didn't say it has to be a bio-weapon, only that it could be. Nutilduuuh is explicitly claiming their own article proves it could not be made in a lab because there are no markers from genetic engineering. This assumption is false. There is no debate over this fact.
legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
March 23, 2020, 09:05:50 AM
I reckon the kryptonian comes out with a new spam account and claims to be the orchestrator of said hacker group.
Then we transfer 100 bitcoin to his wallet and he will make Covid stop with the secret, integrated killswitch.  Roll Eyes
For another 100, he/they will make bitcoin moon within two weeks. certainly...

It's Cuntonians dude, C-U-N-T-onians.

Thanks, would be great if i'd remember that over longer times...  Roll Eyes
Looks like somebody paid the BTC50 from last time (paaamp)  Grin
legendary
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March 23, 2020, 08:47:10 AM
IT IS A FACT viruses can have their mutations accelerated in a lab by infecting lots of animal subjects, and selecting for preferable mutation traits. This is NOT something that would be distinguishable from natural mutation.

You suffer from severe cognitive dissonance. Biological warfare is a real thing. Deception is a key facet of warfare. The fact is this is but one way this disease could have been manipulated in a lab without leaving markers from genetic engineering.

i feel before people even do research. they form their own theeory/opinion/conspiracy and then go full retard trying to fund single sentance exerts out of whole page documents which seem slightly following their initial idea. and then use it to then pretend the whole report backs up their opinion. thus reenforcing their opinion..

a car can run you over. this does not mean all cars will run everyone over. this does not mean you should just cross the road without looking because you think you can just blame the car. it doesnt mean all accidents are car related. nor does it mean knowing cars are dangerous you can blame them and want them to stop thinking if there were no cars then there would be no accidents.

the whole report said that the virus was done by natural processes not lab biohacking DNA alterations. it doesnt even say the cause is actually from lab selective breeding.
just because it says a possible thing doesnt mean its proof of that thing being the answer/cause
sr. member
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Merit: 305
Pro financial, medical liberty
March 23, 2020, 08:42:47 AM
Things are getting even worse everyday in the rest of the world.
However, we can see something positive coming from Asia. China is not reporting infections from COVID-19 lately.
Do you thing that this is something that can give us hope in order to survive?
Are dying aready?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54079956
legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
March 23, 2020, 08:35:42 AM
The only fact you've demonstrated is that you like to play armchair virologist. You are ignoring the 67 other ways in which you were proven wrong to concentrate on this one sub-facet of irrelevancy, hoping it absolves you of your other bullshit. What you just said has nothing to do with anything, and is not even correct. Its clear you don't understand jack shit about this issue so why you keep yammering on about it is beyond me. Additionally, you still have yet to demonstrate the virus was created in a lab and keep pointing to pseudoscience in an effort to do so. Its pathetic.

You are ignoring the 15,732 ways you were wrong! Making up numbers is fun! I only need to be right one way Nutilduuuh, and what I said is 100% fact, you don't need to be a virologist to understand it:

IT IS A FACT viruses can have their mutations accelerated in a lab by infecting lots of animal subjects, and selecting for preferable mutation traits. This is NOT something that would be distinguishable from natural mutation.

You suffer from severe cognitive dissonance. Biological warfare is a real thing. Deception is a key facet of warfare. The fact is this is but one way this disease could have been manipulated in a lab without leaving markers from genetic engineering.

hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
March 23, 2020, 06:29:22 AM
I reckon the kryptonian comes out with a new spam account and claims to be the orchestrator of said hacker group.
Then we transfer 100 bitcoin to his wallet and he will make Covid stop with the secret, integrated killswitch.  Roll Eyes
For another 100, he/they will make bitcoin moon within two weeks. certainly...

It's Cuntonians dude, C-U-N-T-onians.
legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
March 23, 2020, 06:27:21 AM
before it starts to go viral. lets address a latest corona cause conspiracy and get rid of it before it spreads

latest conspiracy is that corona is a bio-hack from crypto-nerds of hackers from 'anonymous' hacker group
done as a ploy to later promote crypto based elections
reasons that inspire this theory
*once a nation is forced to socially distance, it makes voting more  difficult
*china is high in crypto nerds and 'disruptive' technologies
*crypto nerds/hackers are millenials and want politics to favour the young..isolating the old = more votes in millenials favour

sorry but this just aint true and we should slap people with a wet fish if they start trying to push these conspiracy theories

truth is
its a natural mutation from previous years corona. corona has been around and recorded, day-in day out for over half a century
just this years natural mutation is more severe
its not a chinese bio-hack
corona is not a new thing only invented last year. corona has been around since the 60's
cartoon show simpsons did not predict it.

I reckon the kryptonian comes out with a new spam account and claims to be the orchestrator of said hacker group.
Then we transfer 100 bitcoin to his wallet and he will make Covid stop with the secret, integrated killswitch.  Roll Eyes
For another 100, he/they will make bitcoin moon within two weeks. certainly...
legendary
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Merit: 1278
March 23, 2020, 06:25:40 AM
Things are getting even worse everyday in the rest of the world.
However, we can see something positive coming from Asia. China is not reporting infections from COVID-19 lately.
Do you thing that this is something that can give us hope in order to survive?
China is lying. In fact this is a good way to sort out who is worth listening to. Anyone who believes them are useless idiots.
legendary
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Merit: 4534
March 23, 2020, 06:09:20 AM
Things are getting even worse everyday in the rest of the world.
However, we can see something positive coming from Asia. China is not reporting infections from COVID-19 lately.
Do you thing that this is something that can give us hope in order to survive?

with china this could just be the first round
they say no chinese nationals have it. but a few cases in wuhan 'are due to people importing it over seas'
id take that with a pinch of salt because people since february have not been able to get into wuhan. and thus to now be getting it this week.. is flimsy.

i can see thse that self isolated to not get it. will now mingle with those that still have it or just got it (imported or not) and re-energise another round of 3 months of issues.

so dont call it a true sign of an end untill all the lockdowns are removed and NO new cases for a month
either reasons for less cases may also be that they have run out of ability to test so only use it sparingly.
so dont count your chickens just yet that its all over for wuhan

other countries are targeting 12weeks but planning for 12 months with multiple rounds within that year. which is the safest plan to have. not a simple 12 weeks and all clear plan

edit:
right now hong kong is talking about a re-newed outbreak
so china are now getting ready for another round
member
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March 23, 2020, 06:01:31 AM
Things are getting even worse everyday in the rest of the world.
However, we can see something positive coming from Asia. China is not reporting infections from COVID-19 lately.
Do you thing that this is something that can give us hope in order to survive?
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