Topic: Coronavirus Outbreak - page 115. (Read 29992 times)

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It is a fact, purposely infecting test animals and selecting for the most virulent mutations would be INDISTINGUISHABLE from natural mutation, because it is nothing more than accelerating a natural process and selecting for desirable traits. There is no evidence that this has been excluded as a possibility, and any claims otherwise are assumptions, not based on observable empirical data.

Sounds like you went out of your way to confirm your own bias. Unsurprisingly, you picked a completely bullshit-ridden article to do so.

A problem you have is that you always take statements like these at face value, so long as they back whatever conspiracy you are currently frothing over:


Really? This statement is pure paranoid speculation. Its retard juice.


That's not what happened! JFC. From the abstract cited in your article:


"Site-directed mutagenesis" is NOT a natural process. Convenient how they left that tidbit out.

Regardless, this has nothing to do with covid-19. It is again pure speculation to be slurped down by conspiratards. Just because something _could_ happen, doesn't mean it _did_ happen. You always focus on "could" and never on "did."


"Would be" selected for -- not "was." Again, pure, baseless speculation.


This is plain incorrect. Here's a representation of all of the variants of covid-19:

[img  width=500]https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Takahiko_Koyama/publication/339461351/figure/fig3/AS:865732212572168@1583418052931/A-graphical-representation-of-variants-found-in-COVID-19-genomes-Variants-are-colored.png[/img]

There is zero evidence to back any of these statements up, but the author tells you what you want to hear and throws just enough scientific terms around to make it sound like they know what they're talking about, so you just assume they are truthful.

Its laughable to think this article takes down shit. I read the whole thing and it is too riddled with ridiculous assumptions, baseless claims and pseudoscientific bullshit to bother dissecting it any more than I already have. Sure, some anonymous dipshits with a blog know more about this issue than scientists with combined hundreds of years of experience working in this exact field, because those dipshits are telling you what you want to hear.

Get real.

My guess is that in 2 or 3 months this whole affair will be over with, fading into distant memory, but you will have somehow created enough plausible deniability in your own mind that covid-19 was STILL a "bio-weapon," even if a piss poor one at that, never having produced a shred of evidence to back your claim. Par for the course for just about every other ridiculous conspiratard turd you've ever laid in this section of the forum.

Here's the one part of your article I actually agree with:

Yeah roger that techy...as if you don't ever have a problem with anyone who has opinions that don't align with your own. Phukking hypocrite.


Here's an idea dude, why not try posting your rebuttal without being an obnoxious richard head? I dont think I've ever seen you do that.
Not sure if you enjoy or just don't care about being an arrogant prick on these boards, but you sure are good at it.
Apologies for replying to off topic with off topic.

The corona virus sucks.

TwittySeal is the human equivalent of the little banner Youtube puts under videos covering any information of consequence to make one last desperate plea to eat the corporate mainstream media's shit some more.

He has trouble with anyone who has opinions that don't align with his own speaking. Only sources about the Cornonavirus approved by him are allowed, otherwise he will put a disclaimer under every single post. He is doing his part. Volunteering at hospitals? No, sitting on his ass following people around on the internet wagging his finger digitally.

I believe to remember vaguely that the Montan Union was basically initiated by the French to keep a close watch over the naughty Germans.
Keeping that in mind, I have an impression that this project somehow got a bit out of control.

I think it will probably get worse before it gets better,but thank good will get better

Sorry to burst your bubble but you don't know more about this issue than the authors of this article, who work for the largest non-profit biomedical research organization in the United States.

An "accelerated forced mutation process"? Because you have no idea how little you understand about the issue, you will have no way of understanding why you are so incredibly wrong.

"This would essentially be mostly indistinguishable from natural evolution."

 

First of all, there's an entire section of the article called "Evidence for natural evolution".



"Accelerated forced mutation" is NOT the same thing as "natural evolution."

They're not saying "similar to natural evolution," they're saying it is natural evolution. But because you are so very very smart you know better than the people whose jobs it is to study the topic day and night, right?

They studied the issue. You did not. That is why I support their conclusion:


over yours:


1,000x, every day of the week.

Oh, but let me guess, they are just political pawns used to facilitate a cover-up. And meanwhile you're completely unbiased and just presenting facts as you see them. Right.

No argument against the contents? Attack the source. That way you never have to attempt to debate the facts of the matter and can remain totally ignorant while comforted in the belief in your righteousness.

TwitchySeal is exactly right. ZeroHedge thrives off churning out factless clickbait for conspiratard incels like yourself, and RT is funded by the Russian government.

Agree. This is what the EU was founded for in the first place. But some members think they are more important than others, based on membership time and economy figures.
This is deadly for any alliance, but we'll see how the EU holds up while being put through the current challenges in the future. Already weakened by the immigration issues of the last decade, the EU may fail even more because of Covid19.

Actually Germany also blocked several shipments from China to Switzerland in Hamburg based on their new restrictions. Not much to do with this EU free market fuckery, just stealing things basically. But for completeness sake: These shipments are said to be released meanwhile. But the unfriendly act of Germany has not been received too well in Switzerland, that could easily backfire later.

But it is heartwarming to watch from outside how solidary all the EU helps Italy in these times..

While the quoted article is true. Germany has export restriction on masks and 3M Germany tried to ship some trucks full of masks to Switzerland.
Switzerland is not part of the EU, so good luck to them getting masks on the market.

TwittySeal is the human equivalent of the little banner Youtube puts under videos covering any information of consequence to make one last desperate plea to eat the corporate mainstream media's shit some more.

He has trouble with anyone who has opinions that don't align with his own speaking. Only sources about the Cornonavirus approved by him are allowed, otherwise he will put a disclaimer under every single post. He is doing his part. Volunteering at hospitals? No, sitting on his ass following people around on the internet wagging his finger digitally.

I would be very careful taking either zerohedge or rt.com seriously.

zerohedge is a conspiracy theory/pseudo science blog and rt is Russian propaganda.

There is no cure to coronavirus, so if you test positive, doctors cannot start any kind of treatment for you. Likewise, if your symptoms are not serious, you should not be admitted to a hospital, and the question of if you should be admitted to a hospital does not change depending on if you have tested positive for coronavirus or not. Testing positive for coronavirus also does not change the direction to stay at home and use best practices period, but especially if you have symptoms.

There is also the issue of the F1 score of tests.

I'm sure this has been discussed before but Trump's response to the coronavirus has been abysmal and I'm convinced he has shot himself in the foot for his reelection chances. The Trump administration's response to the coronavirus in the ENTIRE month of February was a travel from China and that was it. The entirety of the federal government's resources were dedicated to nothing while members of the Trump administration believed a mere travel would stop coronavirus. You fast forward two weeks later and you are facing exponential growth of the virus with the entire U.S. economy at virtual standstill. The U.S. can't even properly test people that show symptoms of coronavirus with people having fevers/coughs being turned away from tests at emergency rooms.

Trump's only pitch at reelection was the economy and the U.S. is going to face a 20 percent unemployment rate. The U.S. is at the worst economic recession since the Great Depression and Trump is partly to blame. You cannot isolate millions of people and expect the economy to recover. Even after coronavirus settles down, the effect of the economy is going to last for years and the unemployment rate isn't going to go down until at least a year after the virus subsides.