Topic: Coronavirus Outbreak - page 114. (Read 29937 times)

Great, we have almost the whole clown car chiming in now.




You like to play this little game a lot, where if I link an article, you expect me to defend every single facet of it as if I said it, and if I don't nothing I say has any logical basis. You keep talking about the article all you like, regardless of whatever is in it or the study it is based on, there is no denying...

IT IS A FACT viruses can have their mutations accelerated in a lab by infecting lots of animal subjects, and selecting for preferable mutation traits. This is NOT something that would be distinguishable from natural mutation. You call me incel, conspiritard, etc. all you like, none of this is an argument or changes this fact.

i suggest you try to look it up a bit further.
there is no forcing a signature.
there is no reporting to some authority if refusal of signature
its all standard practice policies. the mail systems have had policies for all situations for longer than you have been alive

so here is some proof that they do not require hand to hand contact with mail and do not force people to sign..
read this. check the link. then read my post and thats exactly what i said.

https://about.usps.com/newsroom/statements/usps-statement-on-coronavirus.htm
same system is in place for other countries too like UK canada etc


your effort to think the only options are forced signing or report to authorities a refusal. is beyond disbelief
in short there is no draconian 'sign it or i will report you to authorities' scenario


but have a nice day

this! +1
why so many people don't understand it?

Exactly. Don't try to explain to these type of folks, they won't and don't want to understand.
Now, remember we all learned in school how the big wars started. SMH

This kind of thinking gets us into war. Something that would kill orders of magnitude more people than this virus.

I think I can relate to that.
But please don't be so harsh, I'm still trying for the best.

If you do not know what pseudo-science is, then I am not surprised by anything. What is next, reptilians ordered Bill Gates to create the virus?   Alex Jones got nothing on you folk.

Gun laws anyone?

They are not. They are just sad displays of failed individuals, now grasping for attention with nonsense.

Coronavirus, rich peoples virus

Country	Cases	Population			Cases/Pop*100000
Uganda	1	45 334 285			0,002
Nepal	1	28 988 637			0,003
Niger	1	23 949 028			0,004
Sudan	2	43 556 486			0,005
Angola	2	32 569 008			0,006
Chad	1	16 289 528			0,006
Somalia	1	15 765 184			0,006
Ethiopia	9	114 146 786			0,008
Bangladesh	24	164 233 230			0,015
Nigeria	22	204 674 060			0,011
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Norway	2219	5 409 509			41,020
Monaco	18	39 165			45,959
Spain	28572	46 749 843			61,117
Switzerland	6863	8 637 124			79,459
Italy	53578	60 485 957			88,579
Liechtenstein	37	38 098			97,118
Luxembourg	670	623 109			107,525
Andorra	88	77 231			113,944
Vatican City	1	800			125,000
Iceland	568	340 632			166,749
San Marino	160	33 911			471,823

In Brazil, importers of the virus include several social media influencers and members of a government delegation that met with President Trump on March 7 at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida.
Several of Mexico’s most prominent business leaders — including a banking executive, the chairman of Mexico’s stock exchange and the chief executive of the company that makes Jose Cuervo tequila — tested positive for the virus after traveling to Vail, a ski resort west of Denver.
In Panama, where 137 people have tested positive, those infected include people who had recently traveled to Italy, France or New York.

I suggested 'look it up'.  Not guesstimate about things which you don't know.  Unless you want to continue to look like a jack-ass of course.

Here, I'll even throw you a bone although I doubt that you are now or ever will be in a position to actually own property and what-not.

maybe you need to take a few lessons into how the real world works
your turning how a standard process that has standard policies for how to handle packages where the recipient is not available to sign. and blowing it all up into a thing to sound like some marshal law reporting surveilance thing requiring military intervention to force a person to accept a package.

here is some real world info
delivery companies can put the item on the doorstep. knock on the door  and take a couple steps back. and if there is an answer. mark it as received
they can also put a note saying 'sorry your not home' please call this number to rearrange a later delivery'

so chill out with the myths that those who refuse get 'reported'

again the mail system has been around for over a century. they dont need special briefings about new ways to handle post that needs to be signed for.

as for important legal documents. thats not the usual 'mail' company. thats more so special court assigned servers. who go around saying 'you been served' and then take a picture of it on their smart phones.
after all if you wanted to get out of court by pretending you did not get served. you would refuse to sign any crappy piece of paper. so guess what. they know people refuse to sign. so they dont require it. instead they use other means of proof. or trust of the delivery guy to just do his job

You probably don't have much experience with business stuff, but there is this little thing called 'return receipt' which is used for important legal papers and notifications.  It serves as legal proof that the recipient actually got a piece of mail.  Look it up.

1. simple reason to flatten the curve is because there are not enough intensive care beds to have everyone get it at the same time.
take wuhan stats and use it against for instance UK numbers
W: 11m pop.. ~100k infected ~ couple thousand died (could have been worse if they didnt build hospitals)
UK 65m pop.. so 650k infected and predict that 40,000 could die
the UK only has enough ventilators/intensive care beds and respiratory trained medical staff for ~8000. so the UK wants to see ~5 curves of demand rather than 1 mountain

2. postal/mail people dont actually knock on peoples doors to hand the mail across.. instead there is this little thing called a mail box. yea its a new invention (only been around for over a century, so you might not have known about it)
 yep your spouting fiction that postmen are demanding to come into contact with mail recipients and demanding to report it if mail recipients decline such contact.

seriously. stop spreading myths
as for the financial stuff.. yes we would have gone into a financial crises even without corona. due to the pensions deficit from the 'boombers'.. but that does not mean when a new separate crisis appears that it must be some plot to hide a first crisis

Lot of people using this word lately. I think they can be safely ignored. It's just a way to dismiss anything you don't like.

I find it hard to believe that people who were such 'paranoid conspiracy theorist' that they would use Bitcoin in the first place are so in love with Big Brother that they eat up every mainstream narative with basically zero meaningful evidence Him most of the time.  On top of that, anyone who questions the mainstream narative is automatically some sort of a traitor to their country or whatever.

To be fair, most of the participants on this form are not really early adopters and there are few old-timers around any more so maybe I should expect a different mindset.  Whatever the case it is good information to know that what qualifies as a Bitcoin enthusiast today is very likely to be totally subservient to the corp/gov mainstream and should not be relied upon to provide any meaningful resistance at all as we are rolled into the new technocratic economic model and societal frameworks.

Of course this forum does have a contingent of people who are here because they hate and feel threatened by Bitcoin and seek to damage it.  Others are monitoring it to understand and exploit the weakness of the system (and the community who uses it.)  I can only imagine how delighted they are to see so many highly conditioned boot-lickers who would seemingly fight to the death for the honor of the likes of Bill Gates and Merck.

A bit disappointing that so many Bitcoiners fall for random pseudo-science conspiracy bullshit. Just remember when the next time you tell somebody that they are a sheep for not using Bitcoin or hating banks, look in the mirror first. 

Wrong again Bob.

If you can point that out in TS's material please do, but in fact you used a very simple logical fallicy to assert that a study 'proved' no mutagenesis.  That failure is as clear as a bell.


There is no 'pseudoscience' about people using natural selection to achieve a desired goal be it a bigger potato or a more useful pathogen.

Someone who simply cannot accept the idea that this could have been part of what happened to make covid-19 what it is is very ill prepared to employ any analysis on the subject at all.  That would be you.

You just aren't paying attention. TS's article referenced that study as "proof" that an airborne transmissable virus can be created in a lab without using genetic engineering. Meanwhile the study DID use genetic engineering -- that part was just left out of the article.

The other part of what you said makes no sense at all. You continue to inject pseudoscience and pseudologic into the debate, complicating things for no rational reason. Which is why I'm putting you back on ignore.

Logical fallacy alert:

 - oligonucleotied primers is a method of inducing mutagensis

 - no sign of oligonucleotide primers

 - therefore, no mutagensis


If thing A is in common use and is a million times more probable than thing B, the burden is kind of on thing B to prove that that is what happened.

That is especially the case when thing B is actively and strenuously promoted by groups associated with thing A should thing A be what actually happened.

How could it be useful to confine a large percentage of people to their homes.  Especially middle-age and older persons who are responsible and unlikely to break curfew and go out partying?  The official reason is to slow the spread of SARS-cov-2 infection and 'flatten the curve' to use talking point jargon.  But could there be other reasons?

I just heard a story about postal workers being assembled to have a special briefing.  In this briefing the workers where specifically instructed to report on anyone who refused to accept their mail.  That is interesting.

Because people are conditioned not to think about it, most people don't consider how the loans to the U.S. by the privately held central bank work.  When they do, they usually assume that the 'collateral' for these loans (of 'money' created out of thin air) is 'tax claims on future generations.'

I personally have always kind of doubted that the 'collateral' on the issued debt is quite so nebulous.  I've for a while suspected that the collateral is claims on various value in the nation itself.  National forests, monuments, mineral reserves, and what not.  For the last half decade I have wondered if it is possible that it is also what most land owners think it 'privately held' land titles as well.

What if people are about to be served legal notices that, due to this covid-19 emergency which requires all of our collective actions and sacrifices to manage, the title of lands are going to need to be 'modernized'.