As long as the flu can keep its numbers up vs. the worst cold ever we're okay, and this is all a psyop to sell shots and drugs. The flu has always been a historical winner by a long shot.
Go flu!
Quick question, did the bio lab have safeguards against spores? There's a lot of stories floating around, one of them includes sequences from a microbe that ocasionally produces spores when environmentally stressed (not its normal reproductive method).
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80,000 people died of flu in the 2017-2018 winter in U.S
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
These season the flu has already killed 10,000 across US
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/the-flu-has-already-killed-10000-across-us-as-world-frets-over-coronavirus.html
China with over 1 Billion people 2,000 die from another strain of the coronavirus its world news
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
These season the flu has already killed 10,000 across US
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/the-flu-has-already-killed-10000-across-us-as-world-frets-over-coronavirus.html
China with over 1 Billion people 2,000 die from another strain of the coronavirus its world news
And how do you explain the quarantined towns and cities in China and now Italy.
As you said we have hundreds of thousands dying of the flu world-wide every year and yet - we never quarantine cities. Why now? Why for this corona virus and not others? Are you saying that government officials and the Italian CDC are panicking and acting irrationally?
I'm taking the other perspective - that this coronavirus is really bad sh!t and, if anything, the governments are underplaying it so as to not collapse the world economy.
It seems right now s China, South Korea, Italy and Iran. Where virus is in the wild spreading as it pleases it. This sounds like worse can be in Iran. But it can basically now go anywhere. I become very pessimistic again this weekend. It looked good when China infected numbers started to decline. Now looks very bad.
The "decline" has pretty much been proven to be manipulation of the numbers at this point.
"China's 'Fake' Coronavirus Numbers Exposed: Doctor In Hunan Confirms 50 New Cases, Only One Reported"
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinas-fake-coronavirus-numbers-exposed-doctor-hunan-confirms-50-new-cases-only-one
It seems right now s China, South Korea, Italy and Iran. Where virus is in the wild spreading as it pleases it. This sounds like worse can be in Iran. But it can basically now go anywhere. I become very pessimistic again this weekend. It looked good when China infected numbers started to decline. Now looks very bad.
Kill off the people and animals and you will kill off Coronavirus... sooner or later.
Hundreds Of Animals Drop Dead In China After Being Poisoned By Virus Disinfectant
Hundreds Of Animals Drop Dead In China After Being Poisoned By Virus Disinfectant
Quote from: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hundreds-animals-drop-dead-china-after-being-poisoned-disinfectant
That appears to be what the Chinese Communist Party is doing all across the country. Over the last month, videos of people in full hazmat suits with giant tanks of chemicals strapped on their backs walking around public areas and spraying giant clouds of chemicals have become common.
What's inside the tanks? Well, nobody's really sure. But CNBC's Eunice Yoon noted recently that everywhere she goes in Beijing, she smells bleach and disinfectant.
The only thing is, the virus has still managed to spread via many other methods (including potentially through sewer systems, as researchers revealed on Saturday that they had isolated a strain of the virus from an infected patient's urine). And in the mean time, the government is exposing the public to massive quantities of potentially dangerous chemicals.
What's inside the tanks? Well, nobody's really sure. But CNBC's Eunice Yoon noted recently that everywhere she goes in Beijing, she smells bleach and disinfectant.
The only thing is, the virus has still managed to spread via many other methods (including potentially through sewer systems, as researchers revealed on Saturday that they had isolated a strain of the virus from an infected patient's urine). And in the mean time, the government is exposing the public to massive quantities of potentially dangerous chemicals.
Apparently the "disinfectant" they are spraying is likely just the same formula they were already spraying in the past regularly to exterminate pests like rodents. Of course what you want with a respiratory infection outbreak is to be spraying aerosolized poisons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtlNI-lJTgE
Kill off the people and animals and you will kill off Coronavirus... sooner or later.
Hundreds Of Animals Drop Dead In China After Being Poisoned By Virus Disinfectant
Hundreds Of Animals Drop Dead In China After Being Poisoned By Virus Disinfectant
Quote from: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hundreds-animals-drop-dead-china-after-being-poisoned-disinfectant
That appears to be what the Chinese Communist Party is doing all across the country. Over the last month, videos of people in full hazmat suits with giant tanks of chemicals strapped on their backs walking around public areas and spraying giant clouds of chemicals have become common.
What's inside the tanks? Well, nobody's really sure. But CNBC's Eunice Yoon noted recently that everywhere she goes in Beijing, she smells bleach and disinfectant.
The only thing is, the virus has still managed to spread via many other methods (including potentially through sewer systems, as researchers revealed on Saturday that they had isolated a strain of the virus from an infected patient's urine). And in the mean time, the government is exposing the public to massive quantities of potentially dangerous chemicals.
What's inside the tanks? Well, nobody's really sure. But CNBC's Eunice Yoon noted recently that everywhere she goes in Beijing, she smells bleach and disinfectant.
The only thing is, the virus has still managed to spread via many other methods (including potentially through sewer systems, as researchers revealed on Saturday that they had isolated a strain of the virus from an infected patient's urine). And in the mean time, the government is exposing the public to massive quantities of potentially dangerous chemicals.
The evidence that the original creative narrative of eating snakes and bats is increasingly falling apart. As I suspected, the evidence is more and more supporting the theory that this virus escaped from the level 4 pathogen lab in Wuhan, the only one in China.
"Chinese Scientists Find Coronavirus Did Not Originate In Wuhan Seafood Market"
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/chinese-scientists-find-coronavirus-did-not-originate-wuhan-seafood-market
"Chinese Scientists Find Coronavirus Did Not Originate In Wuhan Seafood Market"
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/chinese-scientists-find-coronavirus-did-not-originate-wuhan-seafood-market
| . | 7 Types of Coronaviruses | - | 4 Types of Influenza Virus “the Flu” (A, B, C, D) plus 12 subtypes for A | ||||||
| Year | Deaths | Year | Deaths | Subtype | |||||
| 2003 | SARS-CoV | 774 | 1889–1890 | 1889–1890 flu pandemic | 1 million | H3N8 or H2N2 | |||
| 2012 | MERS-CoV | ~ 400 | 1918–1920 | 1918 Spanish flu | 20 to 100 million | H1N1 | |||
| 2015 | MERS-CoV | 36 | 1957–1958 | Asian Flu | 1 to 1.5 million | H2N2 | |||
| 2018 | MERS-CoV | 41 | 1968–1969 | Hong Kong Flu | 0.75 to 1 million | H3N2 | |||
| 2019–20 | SARS-CoV-2 | ?? | 1977–1978 | Russian flu | no accurate number | H1N1 | |||
| 2009–2010 | 2009 flu pandemic | 105,700–395,600 | H1N1/09 | ||||||
| HCoV- 229E, OC43 (common-cold) and NL63, HKU1 | cause respiratory infections | . | About 290,000–650,000 deaths every year |
Dr. John Bergman puts the virus in perspective. https://youtu.be/oUT14ZaAINk?t=3
Lightning kills between 2000 - 6000 per year.
Lightning strikes have a mortality rate of between 10% and 30%, with up to 80% of survivors sustaining long-term injuries.
World hunger kills thousands a day
Texting while driving kills 6,000 annually in the U.S.
About 1,800 people living in nursing homes die each year from falls in US.
Hippos kill 2,900 people annually in Africa
To this day no-one managed to avoid day x.
HISTORY
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The history of human coronaviruses began in 1965 when Tyrrell and Bynoe1 found that they could passage a virus named B814
Virus, B814https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/3/5568/767.full.pdf
@tvbcof, I've got a bit of a conspiracy side-theory for you:
I once read Tesla shut down his wireless experiments himself, however Edison with the support of Wall St. and London Co. continued the work in spite of Tesla. He they said he shut it down because he saw their "end game" was very bad.
I read this decades ago (90's) when Hutchinson was all the rage with his military surplus Tesla coils, so sorry no references. His old videos still make the rounds though.
I once read Tesla shut down his wireless experiments himself, however Edison with the support of Wall St. and London Co. continued the work in spite of Tesla. He they said he shut it down because he saw their "end game" was very bad.
I read this decades ago (90's) when Hutchinson was all the rage with his military surplus Tesla coils, so sorry no references. His old videos still make the rounds though.
Italy already with 132 cases and 2 deaths - Carnival in Venice cancelled
https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-23-20-hnk-intl/h_ad2db843793a0ddcf38c647dba2d424f
South korea - cases on the rise as well
https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-23-20-hnk-intl/h_ad2db843793a0ddcf38c647dba2d424f
South korea - cases on the rise as well
I suspect there's something about viruses "they" are keeping hidden, something about the mechanics of how they work. I think they've indoctrinated the masses with false concepts of how it works. Chicken pox, herpes, warts, influenza and the like are definitely a thing that's contagious and are diseases not from microbes like bacteria, fungi, etc...
It looks to me like virus particles are produced by shredded cellular debris, they're not an independent entity at all. This idea that virus are like miniature microbes is fallacious, a natural/normal cellular mechanism (kept somewhat hushed up) is being hijacked.
It looks to me like virus particles are produced by shredded cellular debris, they're not an independent entity at all. This idea that virus are like miniature microbes is fallacious, a natural/normal cellular mechanism (kept somewhat hushed up) is being hijacked.
Mycoplasmas are an interesting 'in-between' between bacteria and viruses. They are bacteria, but they also lack the a good deal of function and must hijack more complex cells metabolic machinery in order to live and reproduce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT25HhAVhhU
Oh ya...one of the 'contaminants' of many vaccines seem to be mycoplasmas. Dr. Garth Nicolson is no joke by the way. Anyone who takes the time to research his history and his work will find that out.
I think once the viral process is understood it becomes a problem for the vaccine industry and their claims. So we've got a trillion dollar industry fighting on the side of some kind of weapon to keep everybody in the dark, keep them from ever having the knowledge to fight back.
Cellular debris is a secondary effect from a more primary cause such as chemical exposure and destructive energetic/electromagnetic sources (5G, HAARP, Monsanto-Bayer, chemtrails, smog). These weapons they make, I think they work as "combo" hits with the truth being the first hit. The Kung Flu, is probably the most scientifically accurate label so-far.
Cellular debris is a secondary effect from a more primary cause such as chemical exposure and destructive energetic/electromagnetic sources (5G, HAARP, Monsanto-Bayer, chemtrails, smog). These weapons they make, I think they work as "combo" hits with the truth being the first hit. The Kung Flu, is probably the most scientifically accurate label so-far.
It seems quite plausible to me that by appropriate use of electromagnetic energy could advance or retard almost any biochemical reaction selected.
Quick search just now. Example:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5523965_Protein_and_DNA_Reactions_Stimulated_by_Electromagnetic_Fields
so, 'yup'.
It occurs to me that 5G being considered all the way up into the 100 GHz range could synthesize with precision almost any waveform on almost any frequency in common use since they are all much lower.
It's a scientifically demonstrated fact that the end result of certain of the vaccines which are widely pushed (HPV in adolescents, Hep-B in newborns) is nanometer sized chunks of aluminum in the glia and neurons of the brain. It seems highly likely to me that they would form a unique constellation in each individual making that person uniquely identifiable. I would further conjecture that this constellation could be selected for manipulation with appropriately formed resonance patterns (though with MIMO, point targets can be selected with geospacial information alone.) Forget about 'getting chiped'; if you are vaxxed you already are.
Wuhan was a flagship city for the 5G roll-out last year so they say. Not sayin' anything...just sayin'... http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-05/27/c_138094302.htm
I suspect there's something about viruses "they" are keeping hidden, something about the mechanics of how they work. I think they've indoctrinated the masses with false concepts of how it works. Chicken pox, herpes, warts, influenza and the like are definitely a thing that's contagious and are diseases not from microbes like bacteria, fungi, etc...
It looks to me like virus particles are produced by shredded cellular debris, they're not an independent entity at all. This idea that virus are like miniature microbes is fallacious, a natural/normal cellular mechanism (kept somewhat hushed up) is being hijacked.
I think once the viral process is understood it becomes a problem for the vaccine industry and their claims. So we've got a trillion dollar industry fighting on the side of some kind of weapon to keep everybody in the dark, keep them from ever having the knowledge to fight back.
Cellular debris is a secondary effect from a more primary cause such as chemical exposure and destructive energetic/electromagnetic sources (5G, HAARP, Monsanto-Bayer, chemtrails, smog). These weapons they make, I think they work as "combo" hits with the truth being the first hit. The Kung Flu, is probably the most scientifically accurate label so-far.
It looks to me like virus particles are produced by shredded cellular debris, they're not an independent entity at all. This idea that virus are like miniature microbes is fallacious, a natural/normal cellular mechanism (kept somewhat hushed up) is being hijacked.
I think once the viral process is understood it becomes a problem for the vaccine industry and their claims. So we've got a trillion dollar industry fighting on the side of some kind of weapon to keep everybody in the dark, keep them from ever having the knowledge to fight back.
Cellular debris is a secondary effect from a more primary cause such as chemical exposure and destructive energetic/electromagnetic sources (5G, HAARP, Monsanto-Bayer, chemtrails, smog). These weapons they make, I think they work as "combo" hits with the truth being the first hit. The Kung Flu, is probably the most scientifically accurate label so-far.
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The Coronavirus has been public knowledge for what, a month? Lets do some simple math.
2000 x 12 months = 24000 dead
That's a stupid formula, but if you play that out with 70% of the people on earth end up being infected (very likely with the r-noughts they are pushing) you get 0.4/100,000. In other words, it's nothing.
A better 'simple' formula would be to take the mortality rate. Dunno what it is supposed to be now, but IIRC it was something like 6/100 as reported at some point. Now we're talking about 350,000,000 dead. Not to mention that it is now being reported that 'recovered' people are getting it again and even worse.
That would be pretty bad...if one believed any of the numbers.
Of course this is assuming those numbers are not under reported (unlikely), and doesn't take into account the logarithmic rise of such a highly infectious disease, the much higher mortality rates, or several other important factors when calculating the impact of any global pandemic. This argument that it is no worse than a regular flu is dead. Stop making it. It is not just ignorant it is dangerous because it gives people a false sense of security and encourages them to ignore the very real threat this virus poses.
For my part I believe it is much more dangerous to be panic into jumping through whatever hoops have been pre-installed. I smell a rat and have no intention of throwing myself into the loving arms of the very same people who are at the very least feeding us a lot of crap info, and more likely seem to be working hard to spread whatever it is around.
But you go ahead and do what you like and believe whoever you wish to believe.
I agree this situation is being manipulated in a Hegelian manner to to synthesize an outcome. Regardless, that doesn't mean this virus isn't a serious threat. Taking precautions is prudent. Normalcy bias is just as dangerous as overreacting.
World wide confirmed cases. We will know tomorrow if the original story holds up and on Feb 23 no new cases.
75906 Mainland China
634 Diamond Princess
204 South Korea
105 Japan
85 Singapore
68 Hong Kong
35 Thailand
35 USA
26 Taiwan
22 Malaysia
20 Italy
19 Australia
18 Iran
16 Germany
16 Viet Nam
12 France
10 Macau
9 United Arab Emirates
9 Canada
9 UK
3 Philippines
3 India
2 Russia
2 Spain
1 Nepal
1 Cambodia
1 Finland
1 Sweden
1 Sri Lanka
1 Belgium
1 Egypt
1 Lebanon
1 Israel
77277
75906 Mainland China
634 Diamond Princess
204 South Korea
105 Japan
85 Singapore
68 Hong Kong
35 Thailand
35 USA
26 Taiwan
22 Malaysia
20 Italy
19 Australia
18 Iran
16 Germany
16 Viet Nam
12 France
10 Macau
9 United Arab Emirates
9 Canada
9 UK
3 Philippines
3 India
2 Russia
2 Spain
1 Nepal
1 Cambodia
1 Finland
1 Sweden
1 Sri Lanka
1 Belgium
1 Egypt
1 Lebanon
1 Israel
77277
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The Coronavirus has been public knowledge for what, a month? Lets do some simple math.
2000 x 12 months = 24000 dead
That's a stupid formula, but if you play that out with 70% of the people on earth end up being infected (very likely with the r-noughts they are pushing) you get 0.4/100,000. In other words, it's nothing.
A better 'simple' formula would be to take the mortality rate. Dunno what it is supposed to be now, but IIRC it was something like 6/100 as reported at some point. Now we're talking about 350,000,000 dead. Not to mention that it is now being reported that 'recovered' people are getting it again and even worse.
That would be pretty bad...if one believed any of the numbers.
Of course this is assuming those numbers are not under reported (unlikely), and doesn't take into account the logarithmic rise of such a highly infectious disease, the much higher mortality rates, or several other important factors when calculating the impact of any global pandemic. This argument that it is no worse than a regular flu is dead. Stop making it. It is not just ignorant it is dangerous because it gives people a false sense of security and encourages them to ignore the very real threat this virus poses.
For my part I believe it is much more dangerous to be panic into jumping through whatever hoops have been pre-installed. I smell a rat and have no intention of throwing myself into the loving arms of the very same people who are at the very least feeding us a lot of crap info, and more likely seem to be working hard to spread whatever it is around.
But you go ahead and do what you like and believe whoever you wish to believe.
80,000 people died of flu in the 2017-2018 winter in U.S
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
These season the flu has already killed 10,000 across US
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/the-flu-has-already-killed-10000-across-us-as-world-frets-over-coronavirus.html
China with over 1 Billion people 2,000 die from another strain of the coronavirus its world news
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
These season the flu has already killed 10,000 across US
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/the-flu-has-already-killed-10000-across-us-as-world-frets-over-coronavirus.html
China with over 1 Billion people 2,000 die from another strain of the coronavirus its world news
The official certified story (which I personally find increasingly suspect) is that the ratio of people who get the purported virus vs. those who die from it is extraordinarily high. High mortality.
If it is true that this virus (exists at all and) is the sole thing going on, and if it is true that the transmisability (r-nought) is in the range which is being reported, then yes, this thing really is a legitimate cause for serious concern in spite of the ridiculously small numbers of deaths (so far) as you point out.
Time will tell what the hell is really going on. For my part I am keeping a pretty open mind. We are seeing a tremendous amount of censorship and 'narrative management.' More than for almost any other event I can think of in recent times. This makes it so that very very little of the 'information' coming our way so far has very much reliability. It doesn't make analysis impossible; just much more tricky and laborious, and it makes usable results take a lot longer.
The Coronavirus has been public knowledge for what, a month? Lets do some simple math.
2000 x 12 months = 24000 dead
Of course this is assuming those numbers are not under reported (unlikely), and doesn't take into account the logarithmic rise of such a highly infectious disease, the much higher mortality rates, or several other important factors when calculating the impact of any global pandemic. This argument that it is no worse than a regular flu is dead. Stop making it. It is not just ignorant it is dangerous because it gives people a false sense of security and encourages them to ignore the very real threat this virus poses.
80,000 people died of flu in the 2017-2018 winter in U.S
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
These season the flu has already killed 10,000 across US
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/the-flu-has-already-killed-10000-across-us-as-world-frets-over-coronavirus.html
China with over 1 Billion people 2,000 die from another strain of the coronavirus its world news
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
These season the flu has already killed 10,000 across US
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/the-flu-has-already-killed-10000-across-us-as-world-frets-over-coronavirus.html
China with over 1 Billion people 2,000 die from another strain of the coronavirus its world news
The official certified story (which I personally find increasingly suspect) is that the ratio of people who get the purported virus vs. those who die from it is extraordinarily high. High mortality.
If it is true that this virus (exists at all and) is the sole thing going on, and if it is true that the transmisability (r-nought) is in the range which is being reported, then yes, this thing really is a legitimate cause for serious concern in spite of the ridiculously small numbers of deaths (so far) as you point out.
Time will tell what the hell is really going on. For my part I am keeping a pretty open mind. We are seeing a tremendous amount of censorship and 'narrative management.' More than for almost any other event I can think of in recent times. This makes it so that very very little of the 'information' coming our way so far has very much reliability. It doesn't make analysis impossible; just much more tricky and laborious, and it makes usable results take a lot longer.
80,000 people died of flu in the 2017-2018 winter in U.S
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
These season the flu has already killed 10,000 across US
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/the-flu-has-already-killed-10000-across-us-as-world-frets-over-coronavirus.html
China with over 1 Billion people 2,000 die from another strain of the coronavirus its world news
https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/
These season the flu has already killed 10,000 across US
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/the-flu-has-already-killed-10000-across-us-as-world-frets-over-coronavirus.html
China with over 1 Billion people 2,000 die from another strain of the coronavirus its world news
Since this subforum is moderated by a censorious communist, and reports are being used as a form of harassment and censorship in lieu of having a debate they are incapable of winning, I need to repost this link here as it was removed:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related
As you can see by this official government report several Chinese nationals were charged with various crimes, including trying to smuggle biological material out of the country illegally. As some people have suggested, the Chinese government may have conspired to smuggle 2019-nCoV out of the USA and Canada, which may have lead to its release in Wuhan, where the nations only level 4 pathogen lab is located.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related
As you can see by this official government report several Chinese nationals were charged with various crimes, including trying to smuggle biological material out of the country illegally. As some people have suggested, the Chinese government may have conspired to smuggle 2019-nCoV out of the USA and Canada, which may have lead to its release in Wuhan, where the nations only level 4 pathogen lab is located.
^^^ It doesn't take Einstein and suspicious link to figure out what happens when the worlds #2 economy stops producing the parts everybody needs. I think they're suffering from a case of the doomsday scalar weapons test flu, they could be off work for a few more weeks.
Also I noticed the markets are so disconnected from reality they didn't even flinch. A quick look at google news and no headline mention of the virus all while the financial market section talks about how bullish it is.
Also I noticed the markets are so disconnected from reality they didn't even flinch. A quick look at google news and no headline mention of the virus all while the financial market section talks about how bullish it is.
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