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March 02, 2020, 07:29:00 AM
The White House continues to spread misinformation:


There was no NYPost Poll.
The Gallup poll he's referring to was taken from Feb. 3-16 and published on Feb 20.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1234305307439923201
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March 02, 2020, 07:16:46 AM
I heard another interesting possible motive that China would have for this being a self inflicted wound. China is losing the trade war, the world is waking up to its totalitarian practices, its economy is running on fumes and fraud and its time is numbered as retraction is inevitable for them. The USA is actively moving manufacturing back on shore, but it is still heavily dependent on China as a supply chain.

If China were to shut down access to its production capacity, it would most certainly see repercussions, either in the form of sanctions or possibly even war. However, with this outbreak as an excuse to lock everything down and quarantine its work force, they have a justification for denying the world access to its supply chain before it can rebuild its production capacity domestically. In this way, it could be a preemptive strike on the world's economy by China. Knowing it's own fate is sealed, it may have chosen to go forward with a form of economic mutually assured destruction.

Of course this also has the added benefit of allowing them to almost totally end any domestic dissent and protests, as well as round up massive numbers of dissidents under the pretense of quarantines. This also serves as a form of depopulation, not just by the disease, but by welding people into their apartments to starve, or simply not have access to food because everything is shut down.

So far this is the most plausible motive I have heard that aligns not only with all of the facts of the circumstances of the matter, seeing as China's only level 4 pathogen lab is located in Wuhan, but the results long term serve to benefit the CCP most as they struggle to maintain control.
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March 02, 2020, 12:29:43 AM
Nice to know our wonderful CDC is on top of things.

Lab for coronavirus test kits may have been contaminated
https://www.axios.com/cdc-lab-coronavirus-contaminated-6dc9726d-dea3-423f-b5ad-eb7b1e44c2e2.html
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Behind the scenes: The FDA official who visited the Atlanta lab, Timothy Stenzel, is the director of the Office of In Vitro Diagnostics and Radiological Health.

About a week ago, when the Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar was under extreme pressure over the delays in getting coronavirus testing kits to market, Stenzel traveled to Atlanta to help troubleshoot whatever technical problems might have been occurring with the tests. Stenzel was alarmed by the procedures he witnessed in the Atlanta laboratory and raised concerns with multiple CDC officials, per a source familiar with the situation in Atlanta. Stenzel is a highly-regarded scientist and diagnostics expert. He was on the ground in Atlanta to deal with technical issues and happened to stumble upon the inappropriate procedures and possible contaminants. He is not a laboratory inspector and thus was not charged with producing an inspection report on the lab conditions. But he raised the concerns and they have been taken seriously and risen to the highest levels of the U.S. government.

What's next: The FDA’s manufacturing concerns — which include the possible contamination of testing kits — have also resulted in the Trump administration ordering an independent investigation of the CDC’s Atlanta laboratory, according to senior officials.

“HHS has launched an investigation and is assembling a team of non-CDC scientists to better understand the nature and source of the manufacturing defect in the first batch of COVID-19 test kits that were distributed to state health departments and others,” said an HHS spokesperson.

A senior administration official added that the government also moved the manufacturing of the coronavirus tests out of the Atlanta laboratory of CDC. The official said that the CDC engaged with a third party contractor on Feb. 20 to help manufacture the testing kits.
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March 01, 2020, 11:19:17 PM
Tells the world not to touch face and mouth touches tongue a minute later, you could not make this shit up



Father of the year, coughs like mad, been in CDC quarantine shows flu-like symptoms and shares drink with poor kid
https://youtu.be/f6-TH93G9r0
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March 01, 2020, 10:57:40 PM
South Korea confirmed almost 500 new cases.

4 different countries reported their first case.

USA had it's second death in Washington state and confirmed 9 more cases in Washington, Florida, Oregon and New York City bringing total cases to 84 ( 9 recovered, 8 in serious/critical condition, 2 dead)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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March 01, 2020, 10:35:09 PM
I wonder if someone invented a currency named CoronaCoin
legendary
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March 01, 2020, 10:18:33 PM

Let me know the first bitcoin address with just a's following the 1. Even attempt to make it it would takes ages
1aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa  Natural, sure  Cheesy

Your error here is confusing something that is random a bitcoin address with something that is not random the end of a viral genome. The end of a viral genome cannot be random as it must serve a very specific functional purpose.

All known infectious retrovirus DNA sequences end with a series of repeating nucleotides called a long terminal repeat (LTR).  

For your further reading and knowledge:

Function of the retrovirus long terminal repeat
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0092867482903671
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March 01, 2020, 09:53:46 PM
Complete genome of the virus with the manufactured, unnatural ending
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947.3


I do believe the circumstantial evidence suggests that this virus might be man made likely in the Wuhan institute of virology but... you are incorrect when you suggest the multiple repeating a's in the viruses genome are incompatible with nature. Such repeats are known to exist in viruses. This one in particular is known to exist in the HIV virus.

Long Terminal Repeats
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_terminal_repeat
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Long terminal repeats (LTRs) are identical sequences of DNA that repeat hundreds or thousands of times found at either end of retrotransposons or proviral DNA formed by reverse transcription of retroviral RNA.[1] They are used by viruses to insert their genetic material into the host genomes.[1]
...
HIV-1
Poly A plays roles both in dimerization and genome packaging since it is necessary for cleavage and polyadenylation. It has been reported that sequences upstream (U3 region) and downstream (U5 region) are needed in order to make the cleavage process efficient.[9]



Let me know the first bitcoin address with just a's following the 1. Even attempt to make it it would takes ages
1aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa  Natural, sure  Cheesy
legendary
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March 01, 2020, 09:43:26 PM
Complete genome of the virus with the manufactured, unnatural ending
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947.3





I do believe the circumstantial evidence suggests that this virus might be man made likely in the Wuhan institute of virology but... you are incorrect when you suggest the multiple repeating a's in the viruses genome are incompatible with nature. Such repeats are known to exist in viruses. This one in particular is known to exist in the HIV virus.

Long Terminal Repeats
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_terminal_repeat
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Long terminal repeats (LTRs) are identical sequences of DNA that repeat hundreds or thousands of times found at either end of retrotransposons or proviral DNA formed by reverse transcription of retroviral RNA.[1] They are used by viruses to insert their genetic material into the host genomes.[1]
...
HIV-1
Poly A plays roles both in dimerization and genome packaging since it is necessary for cleavage and polyadenylation. It has been reported that sequences upstream (U3 region) and downstream (U5 region) are needed in order to make the cleavage process efficient.[9]
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March 01, 2020, 09:15:51 PM
Complete genome of the virus with the manufactured, unnatural ending
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947.3



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March 01, 2020, 06:34:06 PM

Vitamin C is one the most powerful antioxidants in nature.


It makes sense, lemon juice (vitamin C) is what we need to drink every day in order to keep our immune system stronger. Lemon juice kills a lot of bacterias, viruses, etc.
Don't be scared and we better take action to spread knowledge and help others how to prevent and keep healthy.
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March 01, 2020, 05:49:49 PM
Just raising awareness.

For what reason exactly? That is other than your compulsion to attack the source of pretty much anything I post in an attempt to discredit it, whatever it may be. Is it a secret the media is state run in China?

So that people who click the link are aware that they are reading a state run Chinese tabloid.
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March 01, 2020, 05:33:58 PM
Just raising awareness.

For what reason exactly? That is other than your compulsion to attack the source of pretty much anything I post in an attempt to discredit it, whatever it may be. Is it a secret the media is state run in China?
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March 01, 2020, 04:56:33 PM

GlobalTimes is a state run Chinese tabloid that has already been caught spreading lies about Chinas response to the outbreak.  

Whoopie. So is literally every Chinese news outlet. Exactly what news source from China isn't a state puppet? So tell me, what is the political motivation for them to fake info about lung and immune system damage?

Just raising awareness.
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March 01, 2020, 04:48:26 PM

GlobalTimes is a state run Chinese tabloid that has already been caught spreading lies about Chinas response to the outbreak. 

Whoopie. So is literally every Chinese news outlet. Exactly what news source from China isn't a state puppet? So tell me, what is the political motivation for them to fake info about lung and immune system damage?
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March 01, 2020, 03:59:15 PM

GlobalTimes is a state run Chinese tabloid that has already been caught spreading lies about Chinas response to the outbreak. 
legendary
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March 01, 2020, 03:51:46 PM
This is probably more the truth than not. I mean. there are so many people in China that any small abount of deaths, percentage-wise, would look like a plague, numbers-wise.


New England Journal of Medicine: Coronavirus Could Be No Worse than Flu



Citing an analysis of the available data from the outbreak in China, the authors note that there have been zero cases among children younger than 15; and that the fatality rate is 2% at most, and could be "considerably less than 1%."

Those who have died have been elderly or were already suffering from another illness — as with ordinary flu. The underlying data suggest that the symptoms varies, and fewer than one in six of the cases reported were "severe."

The authors note that coronavirus looks to be much less severe than other recent outbreaks of respiratory illnesses:

[T]he overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

The vast majority of patients recover, and among those who are hospitalized, the median stay thus far is 12 days.


Cool
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March 01, 2020, 01:37:44 PM
Another book mentioning the virus. The other was the Dean Koontz Novel from 1981
Sylvia Browne with the prediction in 2008
The Book https://imgur.com/a/ZoJwnVT#pqM7Azg




And what about that? Do you mean that she already knew about the virus?
It was just a coincidence in my opinion. A lot of writters are writing a lot of things, some of them may turn true and some of them may not. Both of them are imagination - nothing related to Corona virus.
Yes.
He is describing events in this 10 year old video
The Anglo-Saxon Mission  (June 18, 2010)    "China will catch a flu"
https://youtu.be/TmWM51mTY_c?t=882
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March 01, 2020, 01:17:03 PM
"Autopsies offer key clues for early stage COVID-19 patients "

"Autopsies show severe damage to COVID-19 patients' lungs and immune system, according to a doctor in Wuhan reached by the Global Times, who called for measures to prevent fibrosis of the lungs at an early stage of the disease."

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1181121.shtml

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March 01, 2020, 04:15:52 AM

oh that virus will benefit china's youth a lot, freeing them from pension costs of their elederly large generation
That's one dark optimism perspective. Could you go a little lighter?

This outbreak shouldn't cause panic because being calm and collected is a very good trait if you want to survive. Spreading misinformation is a very big problem that helps in making this outbreak a monster of a problem. Stop spreading fake news people, you will never know it but you can be a big help.
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