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The discrepancy at the beginning stemmed form the fact that China counted virus infected deaths differently.
If someone is terminal ill literally days away from death and is then infected with a virus and dies, its statistically counted as a victim of the virus.
In reality the virus just shortened the suffering period and pushed it over the edge. Previously China would list the cause of death as preexisting serious medical conditions and not the flu, SARS-Cov-2......  like in US or other places.
I will have to read into if any virus can kill a 100% healthy person (some have undiagnosed health issues and feel 100% healthy).

You sure dont want to be homeless in San Francisco / California right now.

There have not even been anyone from San Francisco infected with the Coronavirus. My strong suspicion is the city declaring a state of emergency is more a political move intended to hurt Trump than it is an actual emergency.

If there is more fear about getting the Coronavirus, then people will refrain from traveling, going to public places (to spend money), and will spend less money. This will hurt the economy, and the stock market, both of which Trump is running on in his re-election campaign.

As it stands now, the risk of getting the Coronavirus in the US is very low. Now may be the time to prepare for a possible outbreak, however there is no current reason to panic in the US.

The numbers in the Philippines and France are low enough so that the high mortality rate is not statically significant. I don't trust the numbers coming out of Iran, however I believe they have an especially poor healthcare system, and their citizens are likely hesitant to disclose information to the government out of fear of what the government will do to them.

I would be interested in these numbers broken down by age range, and preexisting serious medical conditions (such as cancer) that may make a person more vulnerable to the effects of the flu, and may have an already elevated chance of dying without having a Coronavirus infection. 

Corona Viruses is a class of 7 viruses including the common cold with a running nose.
To date no death from any of this in US. Every year tens of thousands die from influence virus "the flu" in US. During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection. 5-10% Mortality
A total of 3276 sic currently worldwide excluding China, Mortality rate higher is some places.

.	Total	Currently sic	Recovered	Deaths	Mortality rate
Philippines	3	1	1	1	33.33%
Iran	139	71	49	19	13.67%
France	18	5	11	2	11.11%
Mainland China	78497	43216	32537	2744	3.50%
Total	82164	46491	32872	2801	3.41%
Taiwan	32	26	5	1	3.13%
Italy	453	438	3	12	2.65%
Hong Kong	91	65	24	2	2.20%
Japan	189	164	22	3	1.59%
South Korea	1595	1560	22	13	0.82%
"Diamond Princess"	705	691	10	4	0.57%
Bahrain	33	33	0	0	0.00%
Kuwait	26	26	0	0	0.00%
Iraq	5	5	0	0	0.00%
Oman	4	4	0	0	0.00%
Croatia	3	3	0	0	0.00%
Lebanon	2	2	0	0	0.00%
Sweden	2	2	0	0	0.00%
Pakistan	2	2	0	0	0.00%
Austria	2	2	0	0	0.00%
Afghanistan	1	1	0	0	0.00%
Norway	1	1	0	0	0.00%
Algeria	1	1	0	0	0.00%
Georgia	1	1	0	0	0.00%
North Macedonia	1	1	0	0	0.00%
Switzerland	1	1	0	0	0.00%
Brazil	1	1	0	0	0.00%
Romania	1	1	0	0	0.00%
Egypt	1	1	0	0	0.00%
Greece	1	1	0	0	0.00%
US	60	54	6	0	0.00%
Spain	13	11	2	0	0.00%
U. Arab Emirates	13	9	4	0	0.00%
Australia	23	12	11	0	0.00%
Israel	2	1	1	0	0.00%
Finland	2	1	1	0	0.00%
Canada	11	5	6	0	0.00%
Thailand	40	18	22	0	0.00%
Germany	27	12	15	0	0.00%
UK	13	5	8	0	0.00%
Singapore	93	31	62	0	0.00%
Macau	10	3	7	0	0.00%
Malaysia	22	4	18	0	0.00%
Vietnam	16	0	16	0	0.00%
India	3	0	3	0	0.00%
Russia	2	0	2	0	0.00%
Nepal	1	0	1	0	0.00%
Cambodia	1	0	1	0	0.00%
Belgium	1	0	1	0	0.00%
Sri Lanka	1	0	1	0	0.00%

"San Francisco declares state of emergency over coronavirus"

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/26/health/san-francisco-coronavirus-emergency-declaration/index.html

Pence just named the guy in charge of the Coronavirus (obviously alongside the other public health experts in the administration) https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-coronavirus-risk-americans-very-low-administration-effectively-handling-n1143756

Not sure on why this is the case, but I guess the President has a lot on his plate to begin with that it makes it easier to delegate this one to someone who has real responsibilities (the VP). So yeah.

"McKinsey Publishes Handy 'How To Survive The Coronavirus' Guide For Corporations & Governments"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/mckinsey-publishes-handy-how-survive-coronavirus-guide-corporations-governments


"Leaked Documents Reveal Coronavirus Infections Up to 52 Times Higher Than Reported Figures in China’s Shandong Province"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/leaked-documents-reveal-chinas-shandong-province-faked-coronavirus-infection-data-real-numbers-up-to-52-times-higher_3251354.html

Italy to Greece is a 7 hour ferry crossing.
Not a single country bordering China had someone dying from SARS-CoR-2 virus responsible for the COVID-19 disease part of the corvid class of viruses.
China has active land borders with 13 countries 9 of them no-one infected. All 22 of the others have recovered, so no neighbor country has anyone infected currently.  

North Korea 0
Mongolia 0
Kazakhstan 0
Kyrgystan 0
Tajikistan 0
Pakistan 0
Myanmar (Burma) 0
Bhutan 0
Laos 0
Nepal 1
Russia 2
India 3
Vietnam 16

In fact, the coronavirus is a huge threat not only to the world economy, but also to the entire population of the Earth. Yesterday on one of the Russian-language news sources I came across an animation that very well demonstrates the spread of this virus from January 25 to February 25.

There is a new outbreak in another European country.
This time in Greece. It was imminent this to happen as coronavirus has hit Italy with over 300 incidents reported, which is a neighbor country and those two countries exchange a lot of products and people via sea everyday.

Most likely negative like other countries. Even if positive 97% of infected recover. Suspected is not infected certainly not dead.
There is 250000 to 500000 deaths from the flu every year.  In 2019 200 death and in 2018 335 died from the flu in Brazil.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1232652371832004608

Patient was sent to the Albert Einstein hospital in Sao Paulo, they are yet to confirm it. There is another suspected case from a 21 year old woman in Rio de Janeiro.

Source is EFE.

Compering any Coroana virus to the Influenza Virus aka flu is like compering local league to super league.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53898245

Just a friendly reminder, i can just talk from an italian perspective but still, we have 10 deaths attributed to the ncov19 here but each patient was OLD and had a pretty bad health situation (they wouldve probably died even with a normal flu).

It's easy to start panicking (and most journalists are not helping tbh), but let's remember that the majority of people with the virus are asintomatic or have a really soft type of symptoms.

You must be a time-traveler and know things ahead of time.
There is no reported case in Mongolia and people commute daily to china.
Myanmar (Burma) has a 2,185 km (1,357 mi) long border with China has no SARS-Cov-2 infections, same with Laos.
Russia did have 2 cases and both recovered.
India did have 3 cases and all recovered.
Africa does have a second case.

 Total Confirmed   81,002   (Total Recovered 30,098)
78,064 Mainland China
1,146 South Korea
691 Others
322 Italy
170 Japan
95 Iran
91 Singapore
85 Hong Kong
57 US
37 Thailand
31 Taiwan
23 Bahrain
22 Australia
22 Malaysia
18 Germany
16 Vietnam
14 France
13 United Arab Emirates
13 UK
11 Canada
11 Kuwait
10 Macau
9 Spain
5 Iraq
4 Oman
3 Philippines
3 India
2 Israel
2 Russia
2 Austria
1 Afghanistan
1 Nepal
1 Cambodia
1 Algeria
1 Belgium
1 Lebanon
1 Finland
1 Sweden
1 Croatia
1 Switzerland
1 Egypt
1 Sri Lanka

From certain areas, reported numbers of coronovirus can be considered totally unreliable. A lab test is required to separate this virus from the more common ones; if the lab test is not done, there can be no report of a coronovirus.

There is one case in Brazil already, someone that came from Lombardy Italy, a 61 year old. The way things are going, not a single region of the world will escape. Except maybe North Korea, nobody is allowed in or out from there...

"China Hunting Down Coronavirus Critics, Here's How"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-hunting-down-coronavirus-critics-heres-how



"8,000 Californians Under "Self-Imposed Quarantine", South Korea Locks Down City Of 2.5 Million People: Virus Updates"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wuhan-eases-lockdown-then-retracts-order-3-hours-later-italy-cases-soar-past-200-live

And even more so in the USA. There are loads of roads between the States that have no border patrol at all... thousands. All you need to do is drive.

In such a case, one of possibly best elements of European integration - Schengen Area becomes a real problem. Without regular borders and checks, people infected in Italy can get in a car and move almost anywhere in Europe by car within just a matter of hours. Considering that the Coronavirus infected might be unnoticed for almost a month - this could have a terrible effect and panic in the whole EU

Lucky Africa. I think they are not going to have any problem with this virus.
Now Europe has a huge problem as Italy has already reported 7 deaths and more than 230 infections mainly in the north part of the country.