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May 22, 2020, 11:57:18 AM
so you think only 56 people DIED in the entire world on march 9th 2020

oh. wait.. reported that on worldometer 8thM had 3827 and 9thM had 4025 deaths.. thats 198 a day
and just to take the next day
oh. and reported that on worldometer 9thM had 4025 and 10thM had 4296 deaths.. thats 271 a day
oh. and reported that on worldometer 10thM had 4296 and 9thM had 4628 deaths.. thats 231 a day
thats over 200 average on a 3 day average

in more recent news UK alone has had over 250 deaths in a day.. just UK

but your kind ofright. YOUR other news (your post) is a nothing burger. as its not even accurate

maybe if you were wanting to put it into a scale of harm to average people..
how about that there are over 300k births each day, but only now a few thousands deaths

in short a couple has more chance of getting pregnant than dying
best advice.. to avoid both, stay 2 metres apart.. yep social distancing prevents pregnancy
The population of Great Britain is 66.65 million people. And you are talking about as many as 256 people.
Do you feel that these are disparate figures?
One in five in the world dies of AIDS. Where is the panic and graphics? Why are they silent about this, and do not give out barrier contraceptives?
legendary
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May 22, 2020, 11:03:54 AM
by the way Mr. Anti-Vaxxer
in the 1960's they had polio vaccines using wild monkey kidneys which also contained other things.
why.. because they couldnt wait to grow clean monkeys so just grabbed wild ones, already grown.

but guess what.. science improved over 60 years after that.
they no longer just grab wild monkeys and force them in a cage and then do things to them.
instead they actually breed their own clean mice.
yep. alot has changed in the last 60 years. seems your scripts have not

yep no wild infections in new breeds of mice.
making a good clean control group for use to study on.

so have fun with your 60yo out dated crap about 'lots of viruses'
heck even badecker is more upto date by realising that things like the koch priniciples actually refine processes enough to actually get the individual virus
other things like petri dish growth technologies also help.

but hey seems you have been the most out of date conspiracy idiot out of the lot

as for the cytokine storm where you think its just an over excretion.. sorry its not.
actual biopsies scans and tests have been done. its due to cell damage.
oh and if you think its just a immuno response.. then explain the Hemoptysis (coughing up blood) that comes with it.

yep hospitals actually do do tests. scans. biopsies and autopsies

and have been doing so all along
legendary
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May 22, 2020, 08:55:33 AM
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the cytokine storm is from cells bursting open due to the virus replication. not a immuno response
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Not exactly.  The damage is done more by an over-reaction of the immune system.  The systemic reaction ends up doing great damage to one's own body, and sometimes ends in the death of the person.  It doesn't happen very much in non-vaxxed people who've not had their immune system's 'tweaked' with adjuvants and what-not.

What they found when the tried to make coronavirus vaccines is that rather than just creating antibodies which arrest future infections as is the normal case, the person ends up having an over-reaction to the next 're-challenge' and it triggers a cytokine storm.  A lot of lab animals died so they stopped research (or did they?)

'Works' in vaccine-land these days simply means that the victim develops antibodies.  To that extent the coronavirus vaccine of a decade ago did 'work'.  It just killed the patient instead of saving them when the infection came around.

A work-around for the vaccine makers which could be effective in this 'warp-speed' scenerio is to just neglect the part of the testing where they actually see if an infection makes the person have a cytokine storm.  If, in a year or two people who got the vaccine start dropping like flies they can just say 'oops, our bad'.  And since they have full legal liability protection it won't impact their bottom line.

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Another thing to note is that the standard flu vaccine, like almost all other vaccines, inevitably has a ton of other virus material because it is just to hard to filter out all the other viruses which came along for the ride when they mashed up the dog brains or human fetal cells or whatever the growth medium happened to be.  It is possible that people who got certain batches of flu vaccines prior ended up being hyper-sensitized to the SARS-cov-2 coronavirus which came along years later.

If that is the case in actuality, and it is a factor in the different impacts among different populations, proper epidemiological studies would show it.  This means that there is no way in hell that such studies will ever be done.

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May 22, 2020, 08:46:53 AM
The other day we read on the the news about the Moderna, and it seemed that the next day he could be in the bought pharmacy, obviously the situation is different.
Here's a good recap of the main tests being studied all over the world:

Coronavirus vaccine current update: Oxford vaccine failure to Moderna's favorable results, here is the latest status of COVID-19 vaccines and drugs

The article shows that there are about a hundred vaccines in the various development steps, with an expected time of arrival on the market still quite long.
Do you guys know any other comprehensive lists?

For now, social distancing remains the most effective form of prevention.
legendary
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May 22, 2020, 07:30:02 AM
covid doesnt just trigger the immuno response.
or else it would just be cough and fever and sneezing.
coughing, fever, sneezing. does not cause hypoxia

the cytokine storm is from cells bursting open due to the virus replication. not a immuno response

covid causes more damage such as pneumonia and ards and hypoxia.and once in the blood stream blood clots, and kidney damage and multiple other things.
people are also having strokes and heart attacks and having blood circulation stop in their limbs due to clots.

and its why even in december-january they knew it was not just a common flu. and why by december 30th once they knew the trigger was a new coroner virus. (because of ACTUAL tests and ACTUAL diagnoses) they reported such

but atleast these faux media idiots are now atleast babystepping into admitting it causes more symptoms than just the flu
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May 22, 2020, 06:38:44 AM
Do you have a source for this?

He's basically just quoting a Mike Adams article on NewsTarget.com.  Mike adams is a pseudo science, conspiracy theorist, fake news guy that also owns Natural.news, Trump.news and a bunch of other similar sites.

The gist of the article is that the only reason so many people are dying is because they are all being treated for the wrong thing, and the 100% confirmed cure is....injecting bleach.

So it turns out covid-19 is not a acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient.Inflammation and the ticking (clotting) of Blood prevents it from carrying oxygen and the patient eventually die of asphyxiation.
Who was responsible for not allowing autopsys at beginning, WHO?


Direct quotes from this article: BREAKING: Researchers claim 100 percent cure rate vs. covid-19 in 100+ patient trial conducted in Ecuador, using intravenous chlorine dioxide


To simplify these findings, covid-19 is not acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient. The use of ventilators only makes the problem worse, which is why previous observational studies have found that 88% of patients put on ventilators end up dying. They are dying because the ventilator treatment is the wrong treatment.

Covid-19 isn’t an Acute Respiratory Disease (ARD), it turns out. Rather, it often presents as an inflammation and blood clotting condition (see The Lancet research, below) which causes the blood to be unable to carry oxygen, resulting in patient hypoxia and eventual asphyxiation.

legendary
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May 22, 2020, 06:21:18 AM
Ventilators made the whole thing worse because it just blocked it more.
Blatant case of misdiagnose and treatment with deadly consequences. Someone will have to reach deep into the pockets to pay for damages.

for weeks now the UK have been shaking their head at the UK's 'nightingale' hospitals(temperary hospitals) that were only fitted with ventilators.(america too)
yet most patients were needing ECMO treatment and kidney dialysis. meaning patients were not being taken to the nightingale hospitals if they had more than pneumonia. which is why many of the nightingales were not used and patients were still being taken to hospital

thrombosis happens mainly to the people who are diabetic because they already have 'sticky blood' and the lack of oxygen in the blood makes the blood worse.
covid also gets into the kidneys which has the similar ace receptors
people dont actually die due to diabetes. its their diabetes that causes the covid to cause more issues
in short same person same diabetes without covid would have lived. but by getting covid it caused their death
but same person with controlled diabetes would have had a better chance than the same person uncontrolled diabetes

some idiots have been trying to deny that covid causes multiple things by pretending that covid doesnt kill anyone and people are just naturally dying due to an underlying condition which would have kilted them on the same day anyway even without having covid.

the data and information about the multiple cause deaths is out there. advisories for different vulnerable groups have been known for ages.
yet its the faux media that has been pushing the only cause should be ARDS/pneumonia cause and everything else is just misinformation
legendary
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May 22, 2020, 06:11:41 AM

So it turns out covid-19 is not a acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient. Inflammation and the ticking (clotting) of Blood prevents it from carrying oxygen and the patient eventually die of asphyxiation.
Who was responsible for not allowing autopsys at beginning, WHO?


it causes a multitude of things.
the imflammatory immuno response is the fever.. and more recently found the heat rash in kids(they dont sweat likeadults so break out in rashes instead of sweat fever)
the cytokine storm is the pneumonia.
and the damage of the cells bursting can also case other issues too

this has been known for ages. im no expert but even i found references about hypoxia and sticky blood(clotting) months ago
they have for months been saying people with diabetes are at risk

its not new
the reason why they first realised it is not just 'flu' in december/january is because it not only goes through the flu like symptoms but also then progresses further to hypoxia/blood clotting/kidney damage
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May 22, 2020, 05:18:56 AM

So it turns out covid-19 is not a acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient. Inflammation and the ticking (clotting) of Blood prevents it from carrying oxygen and the patient eventually die of asphyxiation.
Who was responsible for not allowing autopsys at beginning, WHO?


Do you have a source for this? It would make some sense because the initial perception was that most people were dying from pneumonia, but pneumonia has an extraordinarily low death rate so the numbers didn't quite add up.

COVID-19 may predispose to venous thromboembolism in several ways. https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2003
Several countries have started with autopsies. Any honest pathologist will report finding of lungs (and other organs) full of blood clots.
Autopsy s have not been done because "it's to dangerous because of infections".
Ventilators made the whole thing worse because it just blocked it more.
Blatant case of misdiagnose and treatment with deadly consequences. Someone will have to reach deep into the pockets to pay for damages.
legendary
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May 22, 2020, 03:41:17 AM

So it turns out covid-19 is not a acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient. Inflammation and the ticking (clotting) of Blood prevents it from carrying oxygen and the patient eventually die of asphyxiation.
Who was responsible for not allowing autopsys at beginning, WHO?


Do you have a source for this? It would make some sense because the initial perception was that most people were dying from pneumonia, but pneumonia has an extraordinarily low death rate so the numbers didn't quite add up.
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May 22, 2020, 01:04:07 AM

So it turns out covid-19 is not a acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient. Inflammation and the ticking (clotting) of Blood prevents it from carrying oxygen and the patient eventually die of asphyxiation.
Who was responsible for not allowing autopsys at beginning, WHO?
legendary
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May 19, 2020, 06:40:42 PM
chemo isnt even a treatment for covid
are you just angry that bigtree cant advertise chlorine as much because doctors say they have shown it doesnt work and peoples common sense know that someone is an idiot if they advertise it. even when the at idiot is a president of a country



Well of course chemo isn't a treatment for Covid. The powers that be wouldn't want to instantly wipe out the virus that took them so long to put together to make a fake pandemic out of, would they? I mean, since simple MMS cures Covid in 4 days or less (actually, 1 day in many cases) - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54462158 - chemo (which is a lot more poisonous and powerful that MMS) would cure patients almost instantly. We are seeing this with hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, both of which are more powerful than MMS, but way less powerful than chemo poison.

So, take a look at what Professor Delores Cahill, PhD., says about it all. I mean, she is right over there in Dublin. So, you could go visit her and compare notes, lol, chicken. Cheesy


IS CORONAVIRUS IN YOUR FLU SHOT?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aDK-xz5tHw



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legendary
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May 19, 2020, 04:04:47 PM
chemo isnt even a treatment for covid
are you just angry that bigtree cant advertise chlorine as much because doctors say they have shown it doesnt work and peoples common sense know that someone is an idiot if they advertise it. even when that idiot is a president of a country

edit to answer below
idiot below is the one trying to advertise using strange chemicals
idiot below is the one trying to suggest things without actually understanding basic reality

he is a total influencer suck-up, but too dumb to realise anything about the stuff he advertises
idiot below doesnt even realise that the stuff said was debunked ages ago.

seems even bigtree prefers to pay doctors for interviews way after they got debunked so even he has no clue about who he is paying.

heres some debunk highlights
1. when a flu doesnt lead to a critical amount of people needing hospital care. then herd immunity is acceptable. covid is not one of those low risk flu's. so her herd immunity stance ignores those that would die
2. she says that immunity lasts a lifetime. .. instantly debunked by actual immuniologists who actually do experiments. (not the paper chatterboxes paid to talk)
3. her research was that she doesnt want vaccines but is happy for other forms of medication
4. oh look she is part of the 'freeman cult' with a political agenda

these 'freedom fighters' are also defined as mercenaries. doing things for personal gain even at the expense of ethics

yep she is a co-founder of a pharmaceutical company and knows if people have vaccines to prevent getting sick they wont need her supplements.
she is angry that ireland wants to offer vaccines for free

here is on of her accolades
"Patenting, Assay, PoC and Medical Devices Development, Innovation, Translation and Commercialisation"

do your research and you will find mitkovitz and cahill in a zoom call and you will see them advertise daily supplement/treatment adverts.
mitkovitz and cahill advertising interferon, HCQ, vitamins, zinc.. for daily treatment

they are pill pushers wanting people hooked on daily dosages of stuff they advertise.
gotta love it where cahill debunks herself when talking to mitkovitz that she and mitkovitz are not medical doctors..

also got to add about the specific video linked by the idiot below.
1. she has no clue of r0 maths.. '6 weeks its gone' ... 7 billion people in 6 weeks dang she is saying its a r0 of 94.
2. reason for not making previous sars/mers anti virus is not about chimp/dog DNA. its because they were not as severe as covid so it didnt actually put strain on hospitals so those that got it got treated. covid however is more dangerous causing more to get sick if they get it, meaning if everyone was just herding(no isolation) then more would die. so something needed to be done to prevent mass death. and because vaccines take time. the only other option to prevent mass death is isolation
legendary
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May 19, 2020, 01:47:35 PM

Intravenous chlorine dioxide, 100 % cure rate. Get that bleach/disinfectant straight in the vains.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-05-18-researchers-claim-100-percent-cure-rate-vs-covid-19-ecuador-intravenous-chlorine-dioxide.html

here is another lame thing similar to injecting bleach.
prevent being killed by covid by shooting yourself in the head. yes you still die but atleast your 100% not going to die due to covid.

or...
the more sensible thing. do what you can to prevent getting it. like not randomly touching/licking things that other people have. wash hands regularly. wash/cook food properly. stay at a distance from people and if they are heavily breathing/coughing near you. tell them to back the hell off

Right! No money in saving lives with intravenous bleach. Rather, pay the doctor to chemo you to death. After all, doctors need to eat... so do their families... and their mortgage companies and auto loans need to get paid.

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legendary
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May 19, 2020, 12:34:14 PM

Intravenous chlorine dioxide, 100 % cure rate. Get that bleach/disinfectant straight in the vains.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-05-18-researchers-claim-100-percent-cure-rate-vs-covid-19-ecuador-intravenous-chlorine-dioxide.html

here is another lame thing similar to injecting bleach.
prevent being killed by covid by shooting yourself in the head. yes you still die but atleast your 100% not going to die due to covid.

or...
the more sensible thing. do what you can to prevent getting it. like not randomly touching/licking things that other people have. wash hands regularly. wash/cook food properly. stay at a distance from people and if they are heavily breathing/coughing near you. tell them to back the hell off
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May 19, 2020, 11:56:47 AM

Intravenous chlorine dioxide, 100 % cure rate. Get that bleach/disinfectant straight in the vains.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-05-18-researchers-claim-100-percent-cure-rate-vs-covid-19-ecuador-intravenous-chlorine-dioxide.html
legendary
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May 19, 2020, 11:09:57 AM
"WTF?!? "You Have NO Right NOT to be VAXXED!!" - Alan Dershowitz"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYpn2RWA-lE

gotta laugh
'no man can make a law..'
ok then there is no constitution..  because no man can have made the constitution.. so.. what gives you the right to step on a particular bit of land thats registered to a business that is not your business.

if you remove the word 'public' and replace it with 'gym' you start to unravel the truth of everything
a member of the public= gym member
public property=gym property
public servant=gym servant

people think they 'own the police' but the reality is that the police work for the business. and people just pay membership(taxes) to use the public/business services and have 'gym employee's service them. gym members have to obide by the rules of the business. where privileges actually also come with responsibilities and consequences

it also makes me laugh when people cry about rights but ignore the responsibility part

citizenship=membership
green card/seeking refuge= trial period membership/seeking registration
illegal migrants=non members

yes members of the gym can protest that the gym should change its rules. the gym has a rule that every 4-5 years members can decide who gets to be the supervisors(senators) and manager(president) of the gym. but its the gym manager and supervisors who decide what rules change or not. and sometimes they listen to the members and sometimes they listen to their manager or other business influencers.

the gym companies property is the whole country with regional gyms(states) that might offer slightly different services/have different rules.

but if you think a once in a 4-5 year vote makes people all powerful and able to disobey the rules without repercussions. then you really are blind to how the legal/political/societal system works

if you want to fight the system. atleast recognise the system so you know what your actually fighting

A PMA is not necessarily a member of the public. Neither is a corporation sole. Nor a family acting in private.

This is written right in the public law, and adjudicated in dozens of SC cases, as well as, Constitution and Amendments.

The fact that people don't sue government for their infractions on their privacy, doesn't have anything to do with what the law says. Rather, it has to do with their ignorance of the law.

Should I even post this? I should get out there and mow the lawn.

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legendary
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May 18, 2020, 11:49:21 PM
"WTF?!? "You Have NO Right NOT to be VAXXED!!" - Alan Dershowitz"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYpn2RWA-lE

gotta laugh
'no man can make a law..'
ok then there is no constitution..  because no man can have made the constitution.. so.. what gives you the right to step on a particular bit of land thats registered to a business that is not your business.

if you remove the word 'public' and replace it with 'gym' you start to unravel the truth of everything
a member of the public= gym member
public property=gym property
public servant=gym servant

people think they 'own the police' but the reality is that the police work for the business. and people just pay membership(taxes) to use the public/business services and have 'gym employee's service them. gym members have to obide by the rules of the business. where privileges actually also come with responsibilities and consequences

it also makes me laugh when people cry about rights but ignore the responsibility part

citizenship=membership
green card/seeking refuge= trial period membership/seeking registration
illegal migrants=non members

yes members of the gym can protest that the gym should change its rules. the gym has a rule that every 4-5 years members can decide who gets to be the supervisors(senators) and manager(president) of the gym. but its the gym manager and supervisors who decide what rules change or not. and sometimes they listen to the members and sometimes they listen to their manager or other business influencers.

the gym companies property is the whole country with regional gyms(states) that might offer slightly different services/have different rules.

but if you think a once in a 4-5 year vote makes people all powerful and able to disobey the rules without repercussions. then you really are blind to how the legal/political/societal system works

if you want to fight the system. atleast recognise the system so you know what your actually fighting
legendary
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May 18, 2020, 11:15:11 PM
""Null And Void": Judge Tosses Oregon Governor's COVID-19 Lockdown"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/null-and-void-judge-tosses-oregon-governors-covid-19-lockdown



"Italian Politician Demands Bill Gates Be Arrested For Crimes Against Humanity on Parliament Floor"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/italian-politician-demands-bill-gates-arrested-crimes-humanity-parliament-floor/



"WTF?!? "You Have NO Right NOT to be VAXXED!!" - Alan Dershowitz"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYpn2RWA-lE
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May 18, 2020, 11:09:14 PM
"Nancy Pelosi: 'Morbidly obese' Trump shouldn't be taking hydroxychloroquine"

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/18/nancy-pelosi-donald-trump-morbidly-obese-shouldnt-/  

Oh yeah, she knows how to push his buttons.

The good news is that Trump is probably lying about it anyway so he'll be fine. He can always use the "I was joking" excuse.
Agree (calling him a fatty - what a button.)
Agree.  Agree. (probably lying.  he'll be fine.)

TECSHARE and Spendulous - what do you guys really think.  Did he actually just ask his doctor for the drug and got it? Is he full of shit - never actually took it and just trying to defend his previous praise for the drug?  Or is he telling the truth.

I think he's lying.

I'm genuinely interested in your opinion though.




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