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Quote from: BADecker on May 14, 2020, 11:16:08 AM

Quote from: franky1 on May 14, 2020, 10:36:52 AM

Quote from: BADecker on May 14, 2020, 10:17:23 AM

The medical certainly shouldn't be in charge. Why not? Because all the stats that show covid-19, including magnification of the virus in microscopes, don't conclusively show that it is Covid-19. Why not? Because so many other viruses look the same or similar, that they are probably fighting the common cold, SARS, MERS, and a host of other things, but simply saying that it is Covid-19.

the idiot above has no clue as always.

Imagine that I am wrong about that. But guess how nay people have been accurately tested for Covid-19 according to the really knowledge of what the virus really seems to be. Very few. Accurate complex tests would almost include electron microscope viewing for each patient.

Why would testing like this be necessary? Because with anything less, tests would be so similar that there is no way to tell accurately that anybody has Covid-19.

imagine you are double wrong.. infact triple wrong
because. once doing all the lengthy tests. labs can find certain characteristics that are unique to covid19 that are not present in MERS/SARS.
and can actually be even better than just the human eye visual check.

all this stuff is covered in december/january science.. and i know you cannot quite grasp the concept that february, march april are in the past. i must now break it to you that we are now in May and alot of science has moved forward..

what you should also know that in the CDC 'provisional cases' talked about multiple times a few pages back.. the normal 'all cause death tally' always hovered around 57k a week most weeks of the year.
yet the amount of deaths of all causes increased. which showed some unusual above average event was killing more people then usual.
what you will also notice is that if you take the 4/4/2020 as just one example the covid TESTED amount was 8k. the total all causes deaths was higher by that amount.. and yet they still had other columns of influenza that did not go down or up. which shows they were still testing people for the normal stuff. and people were still getting the normal stuff and there was no mix up

because that week if doctors were mixing things up the 'covid deaths' would look like 13k by also containing the normal influenza and the other cause pneumonia aswell.. the normal pneumonia causes and normal influenza remained at same levels with pneumonia at ~4k and flu at ~500

there is a clear differential that shows they appear to be diagnosing correctly.
so when media was showing the public numbers for the week ending 4/4/2020 of ~8k and not ~13k it shows they were not just throwing everything into the covid category

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Quote from: franky1 on May 14, 2020, 10:36:52 AM

Quote from: BADecker on May 14, 2020, 10:17:23 AM

The medical certainly shouldn't be in charge. Why not? Because all the stats that show covid-19, including magnification of the virus in microscopes, don't conclusively show that it is Covid-19. Why not? Because so many other viruses look the same or similar, that they are probably fighting the common cold, SARS, MERS, and a host of other things, but simply saying that it is Covid-19.

This is shown over and over in many different ways by doctors all over. It's turning out the the doctors that are saying it is Covid-19 are in the tiny minority.

the idiot above has no clue as always.
they look at it under a microscope.. and then get the RNA of it and also look at the proteins and enzymes and they can tell the differences between all the different strains

this has been proven by many studies.
doctors are saying that only 1.5% of people have had it thus far. so no where even near herd immunity.
so that debunks your mantra that the storm is over.
this 1.5% = 5mill US citizens which is more than a hospital can cope with in a month

but if you think 5mill could get it every week. guess what you idiot. it would still take 60 months month for herd immunity.

so let that sit in your brain cell and realise all your hope for herd immunity is gone

Thanks, franky1.

Imagine that I am wrong about that. But guess how nay people have been accurately tested for Covid-19 according to the really knowledge of what the virus really seems to be. Very few. Accurate complex tests would almost include electron microscope viewing for each patient.

Why would testing like this be necessary? Because with anything less, tests would be so similar that there is no way to tell accurately that anybody has Covid-19.

However, if it happened to be a fact that someone was found to have Covid-19, guess what? He has tons of other Coronaviruses, as well as, thousands of other viruses. So, is it Covid-19 that is making him sick? Or is it something else? After all, if he is not sick, he has thousands to hundreds of thousands of viruses... and maybe even Covid-19 along with them all.

In other words, the whole focus of franky1, and the focus of the doctors working on the pandemic, is mostly in the wrong direction. What is the wrong direction? The wrong direction is to focus on one or two viruses, and if they exist, to say that they are the cause of the illness. Why is this wrong? Because there are hundreds of thousands of viruses that each of us has, and our own RNA looks like many of these viruses without very careful viewing. So to say this or that is the cause with only simple testing, is a dangerous lie.

We can see that franky1 either doesn't know what he is talking about, but more than likely is a proponent of world medical dictatorship.

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Quote from: BADecker on May 14, 2020, 10:17:23 AM

The medical certainly shouldn't be in charge. Why not? Because all the stats that show covid-19, including magnification of the virus in microscopes, don't conclusively show that it is Covid-19. Why not? Because so many other viruses look the same or similar, that they are probably fighting the common cold, SARS, MERS, and a host of other things, but simply saying that it is Covid-19.

This is shown over and over in many different ways by doctors all over. It's turning out the the doctors that are saying it is Covid-19 are in the tiny minority.

the idiot above has no clue as always.
they look at it under a microscope.. and then get the RNA of it and also look at the proteins and enzymes and they can tell the differences between all the different strains

this has been proven by many studies.
doctors are saying that only 1.5% of people have had it thus far. so no where even near herd immunity.
so that debunks your mantra that the storm is over.
this 1.5% = 5mill US citizens which is more than a hospital can cope with in a month

but if you think 5mill could get it every week. guess what you idiot. it would still take 60 months month for herd immunity.

so let that sit in your brain cell and realise all your hope for herd immunity is gone

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Quote from: Cnut237 on May 14, 2020, 07:27:51 AM

Quote from: franky1 on May 14, 2020, 05:49:45 AM

its going to be tough to handle especially if they wait a few more weeks before asking people in UK to download the app that only works on latest models of iphone and android.

.. lets just see how this plays out

Very tough, yes. I do get the feeling that politicians shouldn't really be the ones in charge of the response to the pandemic. We have the R₀ safely below 1 at present across the UK. Now they might think that a small increase from say 0.8 to 1.2 isn't a big deal... but this would be a misunderstanding of how exponential progression works. Keeping it below 1 is absolutely crucial.

A quick calculation below, based on an initial 1,000 cases, shows that after 15 rounds of new infection, an R₀ of 0.8 results in 35 new infections, whereas an R₀ of 1.2 results in over 15,000...

The medical certainly shouldn't be in charge. Why not? Because all the stats that show covid-19, including magnification of the virus in microscopes, don't conclusively show that it is Covid-19. Why not? Because so many other viruses look the same or similar, that they are probably fighting the common cold, SARS, MERS, and a host of other things, but simply saying that it is Covid-19.

This is shown over and over in many different ways by doctors all over. It's turning out the the doctors that are saying it is Covid-19 are in the tiny minority.

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Quote from: franky1 on May 14, 2020, 05:49:45 AM

its going to be tough to handle especially if they wait a few more weeks before asking people in UK to download the app that only works on latest models of iphone and android.

.. lets just see how this plays out

Very tough, yes. I do get the feeling that politicians shouldn't really be the ones in charge of the response to the pandemic. We have the R₀ safely below 1 at present across the UK. Now they might think that a small increase from say 0.8 to 1.2 isn't a big deal... but this would be a misunderstanding of how exponential progression works. Keeping it below 1 is absolutely crucial.

A quick calculation below, based on an initial 1,000 cases, shows that after 15 rounds of new infection, an R₀ of 0.8 results in 35 new infections, whereas an R₀ of 1.2 results in over 15,000...

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the thing is. they are not actualy doing track and trace on mainland UK. they have not asked people to download the app.. its still in the trial phase on the isle of wight.

yep 2 weeks ago they said they cant start track and trace because numbers too high. but now releasing the rules meaning the number may go up.. all while still not yet implementing the track and trace.

now people have the freedom to walk around town all day long or get in a car and travel anywhere around the UK. someone with it might be in london in the morning and in southampton by mid day.. and anyone visiting the petrol stations on the route and people in london and southamptom in the proximity of that person would need to be traced.
yes the app would have helped. but right now its just going to reply on human minds and manpower (traditional track and trace)
nightmare scenario because different regions with different teams would need to communicate..
easy to do on the isle of wight but tougher on the mainland in different counties

think about all the commuters from manchester and bristol that go to london and back each day.
its going to be tough to handle especially if they wait a few more weeks before asking people in UK to download the app that only works on latest models of iphone and android.

.. lets just see how this plays out

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Countries (such as the UK) that are easing lockdowns without implementing track-and-trace procedures are actively encouraging people to catch the virus. Widespread testing and contact-tracing for anyone who exhibits symptoms is the only way to prevent a return to exponential growth of case numbers.

Why is the UK encouraging people to catch the virus? Because for the Conservative government, the people who will catch it are the poor, the expendable people. Those who can't work from home. Those who have to travel into a city centre and don't have private transport.

The aim is get the economy running again, with the added bonus of getting some expendable people infected and so boosting the herd immunity. Win-win for the rich. They couldn't care less if some poor people die. Here are some pictures of London transport yesterday:

_{https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52645366}

And there is a third point, too. The UK government were deliberately vague about getting people back to work. They told people to return and to use social distancing and "common sense"... even though any idiot knows that it is impossible to return to say London rush-hour with 2 metres between each person. There was no guidance really on the specifics, on how this would work in practice. Why? Because this is about blame. When the outbreak accelerates again, the government can point to these people crammed onto buses and trains and say it was their fault, they didn't follow guidelines, they didn't social-distance.

There's a very revealing interactive visualisation here that clearly demonstrates the absurdities of rush-hour social-distancing on the London underground.

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‘It’s just cuckoo’: state’s latest data mishap causes critics to cry foul

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Where does Sunday take place twice a week? And May 2 come before April 26?

The state of Georgia, as it provides up-to-date data on the COVID-19 pandemic. In the latest bungling of tracking data for the novel coronavirus, a recently posted bar chart on the Georgia Department of Public Health’s website appeared to show good news: new confirmed cases in the counties with the most infections had dropped every single day for the past two weeks. In fact, there was no clear downward trend. The data is still preliminary, and cases have held steady or dropped slightly in the past two weeks. Experts agree that cases in those five counties were flat when Georgia began to reopen late last month.

L.A. mayor orders masks to be worn outdoors; county sets no end date for stay-at-home rules but eases more restrictions

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The loosened regulations come on the same day that beachgoers were welcomed along the sand in Los Angeles for the first time in weeks, a symbolic milestone in the county’s effort to ease stay-at-home mandates.

“Today was a great day for Los Angeles as people went back to our iconic beaches,” Garcetti said at a press briefing Wednesday evening. “This should be an exciting week, not a depressing one.”

WA Governor Never Said COVID-Test-Deniers Will Not Be Allowed To Leave Home To Get Groceries

“As far as refusal, it just shouldn’t come to that, and it really hasn’t. We’ve had really good success when we ask people to isolate, and they’ve done so in really high percentages, so we’re happy about that, and we believe that will continue. ” - Gov. Jay Inslee

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Update on situation, ~~strikethrough~~ no change. San Marino no-one died the last 19 days.

Madagascar has alternative cure.
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Last month White House petition to investigate Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation for crimes against Humanity and Medical Malpractice surpass 500k signatures. Michelle Malkin calls to reject Bill Gates Vaccine as well as Jack-booted globalist coronavirus vaccine.

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At least 55 COVID-19 patients in Madagascar have recovered after being treated with the country’s herbal remedy for the disease.

The number of COVID-19 patients said to have been “cured” with the drug — which is bottled as herbal tea — rose after three recoveries were announced on Saturday.
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According to L’Express de Madagascar, the patients were among those that were administered the drug known as COVID-Organics since it was launched in April.

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Launched on April 20, the COVID-Organics was developed by the Malagasy Institute of Applied Research (IMRA). Its main ingredient is said to be sweet wormwood (Artemisia annua), a plant of Asian origin from where the antimalarial drug, artemisinin, came.

Madagascar’s President Andry Rajoelina said at the launch that the effectiveness of the drug has been proved. Of the 193 COVID-19 cases so far recorded in Madagascar, 101 have recovered while none has died.

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"Wirepoints analysis reveals 92 percent of Cook County COVID-19 victims had pre-existing conditions"

https://wirepoints.org/wirepoints-analysis-reveals-92-percent-of-cook-county-covid-19-victims-had-pre-existing-conditions-wirepoints/

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Quote from: TECSHARE on May 13, 2020, 06:36:04 PM

"Georgia COVID Hospitalizations Drop After State Reopens"

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/georgia-covid-hospitalizations-drop-after-state-reopens

"LA County Issues New "Indefinite" Stay-At-Home Order As NJ Moves Up Timeline For Reopening"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/second-wave-china-orders-partial-lockdown-border-city-seouls-newest-cluster-explodes

"WA Governor To Residents: COVID-Test-Deniers Will Not Be Allowed To Leave Home To Get Groceries"

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/nj-governor-residents-covid-test-deniers-will-not-be-allowed-leave-home-get-groceries

If people who has been confined to quarters would simply sue government people, this whole thing would be over with shortly.

The suit can be for violation of the Constitution and Amendment 1. It can also be for threat of violation of Constitution and Amendment 1... threat by someone who is aware of someone else who has been unconstitutionally restricted.

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"Georgia COVID Hospitalizations Drop After State Reopens"

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/georgia-covid-hospitalizations-drop-after-state-reopens

"LA County Issues New "Indefinite" Stay-At-Home Order As NJ Moves Up Timeline For Reopening"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/second-wave-china-orders-partial-lockdown-border-city-seouls-newest-cluster-explodes

"WA Governor To Residents: COVID-Test-Deniers Will Not Be Allowed To Leave Home To Get Groceries"

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/nj-governor-residents-covid-test-deniers-will-not-be-allowed-leave-home-get-groceries

BADecker

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Medical leaders want people to stay at home so that they get sicker. No money in a healthy and well person.

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franky1

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business interests want to get people back to work. back into the slave market
people that care about their health dont give a crap about FIAT economy. they just wanna avoid getting sick

kinda funny that even though a certain idiot doesnt even buy wendys burgers was crying that the business was not working at optimal supply.
kinda funny how a certain idiot wants to risk peoples health just to keep fiat alive

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Quote from: TECSHARE on May 12, 2020, 02:22:41 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on May 12, 2020, 04:41:14 AM

Ventura County CA To Remove People From Their Homes For Quarantine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kf_gWrBio4&t=275

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Techole Cucked By Panicky Conspiratard Website Yet Again

https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-ventura-county-coronavirus-forcibly-removed-homes-quarantine

Yep, those damn conspiritards making statements directly from the director of Ventura County Public Health himself. Clearly it is a deep fake. That guy talking is just Alex Jones with CGI over it.

Do you people ever just stop and think for 3 seconds... "are we the baddies?"

How do so many of the people in this forum even exist? If it isn't their favorite actor telling them something, they can't seem to think hard enough or well enough to do anything but criticize.

This forum is one of the top forums. Do you think that big business has sent most of the members here as simple trolls, just to cover their business interests?

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Quote from: TECSHARE on May 12, 2020, 04:41:14 AM

Ventura County CA To Remove People From Their Homes For Quarantine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kf_gWrBio4&t=275

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Techole Cucked By Panicky Conspiratard Website Yet Again

https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-ventura-county-coronavirus-forcibly-removed-homes-quarantine

Yep, those damn conspiritards making statements directly from the director of Ventura County Public Health himself. Clearly it is a deep fake. That guy talking is just Alex Jones with CGI over it.

Do you people ever just stop and think for 3 seconds... "are we the baddies?"

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When average people in the USA and Britain wake up to the fact that their governments don't have control over their private property in public, they start to ignore their government.

When government people in the USA and Britain start to force people to do things they don't want to do, they open themselves up for liability law suits.

Nothing in the basic governing documents of both of these countries allows for government to mandate isolation for people. Time to sue government people for unauthorized enslavement.

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when idiots read a statement that says 'if you dont have a home to self isolate, we will put you in a hotel to self isolate'... but the idiots pretend it says if you have a home to self isolate we will take you out of it
then that proves that idiots have no authority over their own brain because they cant control basic laws of logic and physics.

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Quote from: TECSHARE on May 12, 2020, 04:41:14 AM

Ventura County CA To Remove People From Their Homes For Quarantine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kf_gWrBio4&t=275

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Techole Cucked By Panicky Conspiratard Website Yet Again

https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-ventura-county-coronavirus-forcibly-removed-homes-quarantine

Thanks to TECSHARE and hundreds of others who posted video complaints that got Ventura County to change their ways.

Now if only people would wake up and realize that government doesn't have any authority except when there is REAL harm or damage being done, we could all live in freedom.

Since it would have been the Ventura County people that would have been doing the damage and harm by removing people from their homes, they could easily have been sued for their damaging act.

Let's rise up and straighten government people out, especially when they don't allow us to use public lands - like beaches - which are open to all.

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Ventura County CA To Remove People From Their Homes For Quarantine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kf_gWrBio4&t=275

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