People are going to die because of your smug self assured attitude. Thousands, possibly even millions. All because of a bunch of silly selfish cunts who would rather stay home and get "free money" then virtue signal about how they are doing the right thing, and condemning anyone who wants to be able to produce the shit they shovel into their mouths like fat cows. Nothing is free dipshit. You think you just bit into a nice juicy worm, wait until the hook digs in. You are going to pay. We are ALL going to pay.
You really need to lay off the conspiracy/psuedo-science blogs, tabloids and youtube channels.
Listen directly and objectively to what the most qualified Doctors and Scientists say instead of letting a blog like zerohedge or some guy on youtube explain it to you. You're smarter than that.
This isn't an argument.
Oh, well you know them! That makes your argument completely not anecdotal and an appeal to authority right? You believe do you? Have you had your eyes welded shut the last 4 years? Have you not seen the insane lengths some of these districts will go to in order to try to fabricate some kind of scandal or disaster to throw at Trump to give themselves a chance in hell at being able to unseat him via hook or crook? Do you think they are above intentionally cratering the economy to depose him and to create the socialist UBI system they have been trying to push for years? I don't.
This isn't about claiming the virus isn't real or that people shouldn't take precautions. I notice any time anyone objects people love to claim that it is either you support all these totalitarian restrictions or you want to "do nothing". This is about these restrictions being used intentionally as a vector to crater the economy to force a very large portion of the US population into dependence on the government. What could go wrong depending on the government to feed and house you right?
Furthermore this IS breaking the supply chain. Do you think all these producers who are shutting down now because of these restrictions are going to be able to open back up? Of course not. You like to imagine that everything important is designated as essential and therefore everything is fine. That is not how it works in reality. Also you have no concept of how delicate the modern "just in time" supply chain is. These interruptions have dealt critical blows to our supply chain infrastructure, and the longer we let it bleed out the more our capacity to recover dwindles.
The results of the loss of this capacity is not just about profit, it is how all of us are fed, housed, and medically cared for. The number of people effected by this illness is a tiny fraction of the death and pain that will result from this loss of production capacity. Regarding these states begging for federal bail outs, just watch. They are using this situation to claim that is why they were in this position, not because of their own horrible mismanagement, but because of the virus. They will extend the lock downs as long as possible to create even more pressure to push federal bailouts. You watch as the cries for this grow louder.
Self centered? You know what is self centered? People like you who want to stay safe at home collecting "free money" while the people who feed you are losing everything because you think those in charge got it all figured out and would never steer us wrong. What does us being not the only nation dealing with this have to do with anything besides a pathetic appeal to emotion on your part? You know what else effects other nations? When food shortages start here in any scale, poor nations have FAMINE. Not shortages, millions die. Make some more appeals to emotion and tell me about being self centered again you twat.
This isn't about claiming the virus isn't real or that people shouldn't take precautions. I notice any time anyone objects people love to claim that it is either you support all these totalitarian restrictions or you want to "do nothing". This is about these restrictions being used intentionally as a vector to crater the economy to force a very large portion of the US population into dependence on the government. What could go wrong depending on the government to feed and house you right?
Furthermore this IS breaking the supply chain. Do you think all these producers who are shutting down now because of these restrictions are going to be able to open back up? Of course not. You like to imagine that everything important is designated as essential and therefore everything is fine. That is not how it works in reality. Also you have no concept of how delicate the modern "just in time" supply chain is. These interruptions have dealt critical blows to our supply chain infrastructure, and the longer we let it bleed out the more our capacity to recover dwindles.
The results of the loss of this capacity is not just about profit, it is how all of us are fed, housed, and medically cared for. The number of people effected by this illness is a tiny fraction of the death and pain that will result from this loss of production capacity. Regarding these states begging for federal bail outs, just watch. They are using this situation to claim that is why they were in this position, not because of their own horrible mismanagement, but because of the virus. They will extend the lock downs as long as possible to create even more pressure to push federal bailouts. You watch as the cries for this grow louder.
Self centered? You know what is self centered? People like you who want to stay safe at home collecting "free money" while the people who feed you are losing everything because you think those in charge got it all figured out and would never steer us wrong. What does us being not the only nation dealing with this have to do with anything besides a pathetic appeal to emotion on your part? You know what else effects other nations? When food shortages start here in any scale, poor nations have FAMINE. Not shortages, millions die. Make some more appeals to emotion and tell me about being self centered again you twat.
Back to the self centered part, Canada, Italy, Spain, all of these enemy countries are also doing these same measures to prop up the fight in our country correct? It is in Germany's best interest to tank their economy to perpetuate this scam to crater our economy. Whether you are a republican, a democrat, or a lizard person, the effects this is having on the economy is effecting us the same, we're all in this together. Its absolute arrogance to think this is even slightly about the US, its a global problem. I don't think anyone needs to stage some elaborate global coup d'etat to try to damage the reputation of the man telling us to inject disinfectant, if he gets the vote, he gets the vote. The dependence on the government you speak of is just listening to them saying its not financially worth for us to allow our people to get infected. While it is a crying shame that the meat processing factories that forced their employees to come to work and caused hundreds of millions of dollars of damage were shut down, lucky for us the Cheetos factory is still open after a 1 day shutdown.
The number of people effected by this illness is a tiny fraction of the death and pain that will result from this loss of production capacity so far! We've had 50,000 people die in a month with safety measures in place. Luckily, I know that you aren't a moron and understand how illness is spread, its a lot slower rolling when there are 100 cases versus 1 million cases, so I don't need to press on the point that every bit of data we can scrape together right now is showing the absolute minimum effect we could possibly have from the virus.
Again, as I mentioned all of the things you're talking about have already been weighed in the official government road map. Trying to factor it in twice isn't really helpful, all rocking the boat does at this point is cost us more money and lives from the virus, starvation, supply chain collapse, whatever. I'm not sure what free money you're talking about, but I'm a business owner and this hasn't been all that fantastic. The free money that I'm eternally grateful about that I haven't received and will maybe cover a week's expenses if I'm lucky is certainly worth it. Again, going back to work costs the country more resources than not going to work. Every person that gets sick prolongs this and costs the country more money. I don't really understand how this is a hard concept for people, I absolutely agree that it sucks that there is famine around the world, but disregarding safety increases the food problem, it doesn't decrease it. Most people don't give a shit about lives or the economy, they're just tired of being home. But nah, you're probably right. I've really enjoyed this time off while I wait to see how I'll pay my bills. I just sort of realize it'll be awfully tricky to pay them if I'm dead, so I'll just deal with it a little while longer and not bitch, because plenty of people have it worse than me.
We don't have any control over the rest of the world, and how they decide to handle this situation is not our responsibility. It is also completely a non-sequitur relating to this discussion. You also assume that there is no one who would profit from burning down the world economy, and there you would be dead wrong. Not only is this a perfect scapegoat to collapse the global economy which has been showing cracks for many years, even when you look at it from China's perspective, they benefit from stalling out the rest of the globe giving them longer to dig their claws in and fight the world's resistance to the system of dependence they have created on them for their manufacturing capacity. It is essentially like China losing at a game of monopoly, rather than admitting defeat, they flip over the table hoping that they might have a chance to find a better position rather than deal with the assured fate of their loss.
Regarding Trump, that is cute how you threw in the recent meme level news you seem to rely on. He didn't tell anyone to do anything, he asked a question. Furthermore what does the word "disinfectant" mean? Lets break it down. Infectant = something that infects, dis = to negate or remove. Disinfectant = something that negates or removes an infectious agent. People desperate to confirm their bias and looking desperately for any "gotcha" moment, real or manufactured rush to this like a bitch in heat because it has great optics in spite of its total lack of substance. Certain entities have been working overtime for DECADES to strip this country of its freedoms, because if we remain free, we will always serve as an example for other nations to desire what we have, freedom. The USA is the last stumbling block in the path of creating a globalist dictatorship. In summary, yes they very much do have motives to do these things in spite of your tenacious clinging to the buttocks of normalcy bias.
As far as the "free money" thanks for pointing out it is ineffective at preventing the shut down of production capacity. No one is being "forced" to come to work. Last I checked slavery was still illegal here. People however are being forced into poverty, homelessness, starvation, and suicide because of state mandates prohibiting them from running their businesses and earning a living to support themselves and others. This isn't a 1 day shut down, this is months on end of shutdown. I am glad you are comfortable. Other people aren't, but that is a sacrifice you are willing to make isn't it? It is kind of hard to shelter in place if you are homeless is it not? Lets just ignore the fact that even if everything opened up tomorrow, nothing would stop you from just staying home to protect yourself now would it? Regarding deaths, you would rather pretend that the peak of effect in one month is not a bell curve but something that will continue month after month. You know damned well even if ZERO precautions were taken, that is not how diseases work. Far more people die from car accidents every year, if this is the logic we are using we should ban cars immediately. No one has a right to put other people's lives at risk driving around after all.
This isn't just about cost of life or cost in money. Your precious projections you claim that have been so carefully worked out have no way to measure the permanent loss of production capacity over time that will result as the after effect of this no matter how much you chant "the government is here to help!" You are right, people don't give a shit. They want to sit at home safe and collect checks for doing nothing like an extended paid vacation. Unfortunately those little slips of paper don't mean shit when the people who actually produce the products you need to survive are driven out of business never to return.
