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Quote from: TwitchySeal on May 01, 2020, 06:59:36 AM

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Quote from: nutildah on May 01, 2020, 06:44:06 AM

....But even if this was the actual case I would still vote for Biden knowing his VP would be somebody other than Trump.

This is true of both candidates.

It makes sense if you read what he said before that:

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His only hope of winning now is to paint Biden as being bedridden with end-stage dementia. Frankly, it seems to be working to a certain degree. But even if this was the actual case I would still vote for Biden knowing his VP would be somebody other than Trump.

Well, I don't agree with that statement. Biden actually does show some symptoms of dementia. And Biden has significant negatives as a candidate. For example, a lot of Sanders supporters are going to just stay home. Blacks for Biden? Really? Then there's the involvement of Hunter with China and Russia.

Frankly I would like to have seen a strong, rational candidate on the Democratic side, but you don't have that. Deal with it. Maybe focus on state and local races?

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Quote from: Spendulus on May 01, 2020, 06:57:06 AM

Quote from: nutildah on May 01, 2020, 06:44:06 AM

....But even if this was the actual case I would still vote for Biden knowing his VP would be somebody other than Trump.

This is true of both candidates.

It makes sense if you read what he said before that:

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His only hope of winning now is to paint Biden as being bedridden with end-stage dementia. Frankly, it seems to be working to a certain degree. But even if this was the actual case I would still vote for Biden knowing his VP would be somebody other than Trump.

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Quote from: nutildah on May 01, 2020, 06:44:06 AM

....But even if this was the actual case I would still vote for Biden knowing his VP would be somebody other than Trump.

This is true of both candidates.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on May 01, 2020, 06:30:36 AM

Also, he's gotta make sure the country trusts his intelligence agencies as little as possible.

This sentence alone...

To think he somehow knows better than them, and that his maneuvering is anything other than throwing the welfare of his country under the bus for the sake of personal gain.

It's a trick that only works on people dumb enough to have voted for him in the first place.

His only hope of winning now is to paint Biden as being bedridden with end-stage dementia. Frankly, it seems to be working to a certain degree. But even if this was the actual case I would still vote for Biden knowing his VP would be somebody other than Trump.

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Quote from: franky1 on May 01, 2020, 03:46:20 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

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President Donald Trump ... has seen evidence that gives him a "high degree of confidence" the novel coronavirus originated in a laboratory in Wuhan, China, but declined to provide details to back up his assertion.

we all know trump has the same IQ as people like badecker(very low) their evidence is faux media like infowars and hotwire and all the other conspiracy cults

This is why people like frank1 can't finish his sentences, and use capitalization and punctuation.

Now don't be upset with me, F-1. I realize you are trying your best to prove that CV is a scam. And we know that you need to hide what you are doing from your friends and peers. And I would say that you are doing an excellent job of it.

Now everybody watch. franky1 will cut into me some more, just to prove he isn't covertly acting against the CV pandemic. Just watch.

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Quote from: Tash on May 01, 2020, 06:36:36 AM

Anyone is free to choose the origin of this dis ease.

A: Laboratory created
B: bat -> other animal + HIV sequences -> human SARS-CoV-2
C: Aluminium in the body from air pollution, vaccines....... + microwaves busts (5G)
D: Total hoax

Trick question! Scientist have ruled all of those out.

Nice try.

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Anyone is free to choose the origin of this dis ease.

A: Laboratory created
B: Bat -> other animal + HIV sequences -> human SARS-CoV-2
C: Aluminium in the body from air pollution, vaccines, ....... + microwaves busts (5G)
D: Total hoax

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Quote from: TECSHARE on May 01, 2020, 05:58:57 AM

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Top US spy agency says coronavirus was ‘not manmade or genetically modified’

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The top U.S. spy agency said for the first time on Thursday that the nation’s collective intelligence community does not believe that the coronavirus was manmade or genetically modified.

“The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified,” the Office of Director of National Intelligence said in a rare statement.

Trump contradicts US intel community by claiming he's seen evidence coronavirus originated in Chinese lab

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President Donald Trump contradicted a rare on-the-record statement from his own intelligence community by claiming Thursday that he has seen evidence that gives him a "high degree of confidence" the novel coronavirus originated in a laboratory in Wuhan, China, but declined to provide details to back up his assertion.

How predictable you are. I knew you were going to jump on this like a bitch in heat. One question, what interest do they have in making a public disclosure about the modified nature of the virus when they themselves were funding the gain of function research? Why would they directly expose themselves to liability? Furthermore, what are the implications of publicly disclosing that China intentionally used a bio-weapon on the rest of the world?

I mean, he has quite the history of spreading lies and conspiracy theories about his enemies. And it's pretty clear that he's going to be playing the "China is trying to help Biden win, don't let China win! Vote for Trump!" card... It does take a rocket surgeon to figure out why he's planting the Chinese bio weapon seed.

Also, he's gotta make sure the country trusts his intelligence agencies as little as possible.

Quote from: TECSHARE on May 01, 2020, 05:58:57 AM

the modified nature of the virus

nope.

"The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2"

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9 <===actual source

"The new coronavirus was not man-made, study shows"

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/the-new-coronavirus-was-not-genetically-engineered-study-shows

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Recently I came across a Harvard study by Gianluca Rinaldi and Matteo Paradissi conducted in ten locations in Lombardyio and was surprised because the mortality rate from coronavirus is even lower than that from influenza.

For people over 60, the mortality rate is 4.29% of those infected.
For people under 60, the mortality rate is 0.05% of those infected.

For comparison, influenza mortality is 0.1%.

Source: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.18.20070912v1.full.pdf

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Top US spy agency says coronavirus was ‘not manmade or genetically modified’

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The top U.S. spy agency said for the first time on Thursday that the nation’s collective intelligence community does not believe that the coronavirus was manmade or genetically modified.

“The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified,” the Office of Director of National Intelligence said in a rare statement.

Trump contradicts US intel community by claiming he's seen evidence coronavirus originated in Chinese lab

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President Donald Trump contradicted a rare on-the-record statement from his own intelligence community by claiming Thursday that he has seen evidence that gives him a "high degree of confidence" the novel coronavirus originated in a laboratory in Wuhan, China, but declined to provide details to back up his assertion.

How predictable you are. I knew you were going to jump on this like a bitch in heat. One question, what interest do they have in making a public disclosure about the modified nature of the virus when they themselves were funding the gain of function research? Why would they directly expose themselves to liability? Furthermore, what are the implications of publicly disclosing that China intentionally used a bio-weapon on the rest of the world?

"U.S. halts funding for new risky virus studies, calls for voluntary moratorium" October 17, 2014

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/10/us-halts-funding-new-risky-virus-studies-calls-voluntary-moratorium

"Fauci’s NIAID Funded Wuhan Lab Scientists To Research Bat Coronavirus"

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/new-coronavirus-emerges-bats-china-devastates-young-swine

"US gave $3.7 million to China's Wuhan lab that conducted coronavirus tests on bats"

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/economy-politics/shocking-us-gave-37-million-to-chinas-wuhan-lab-that-conducted-coronavirus-tests-on-bats/story/400831.html

"Former AIDS Scientist Exposes Dr. Fauci’s Medical Corruption"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgnBldI7KPY

"The Coronavirus Is Man Made According to Luc Montagnier the Man Who Discovered HIV"

https://www.gilmorehealth.com/chinese-coronavirus-is-a-man-made-virus-according-to-luc-montagnier-the-man-who-discovered-hiv/

"Engineering Coronaviruses to Evaluate Emergence and Pathogenic Potential"

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0966842X16300038#bbib0080

"Gain-of-Function Research and the Relevance to Clinical Practice"

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/213/9/1364/2459266

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President Donald Trump ... has seen evidence that gives him a "high degree of confidence" the novel coronavirus originated in a laboratory in Wuhan, China, but declined to provide details to back up his assertion.

we all know trump has the same IQ as people like badecker(very low) their evidence is faux media like infowars and hotwire and all the other conspiracy cults

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Quote from: franky1 on April 30, 2020, 02:35:37 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 30, 2020, 02:22:46 PM

Actually, there is a third method. Get out on the lake in a R₀w boat and do some fishing.

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i done that yesterday. yep lockdown is not the same as being ied up and held hostage, you still have freedom of movement.
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anyways i think anything related to covid just blows over your head and you dont understand basics. so maybe find another topic to troll

Hey, franky1. Thanks for bolstering my content.

This CV vacation is really great, right? And since you know how to fish, you won't be running out of food right away when the grocery stores are finally empty in the lockdown/shutdown.

That's the one problem with AZ. You gotta actually go out of State to do any big fishing. When the food runs out, there will be lots of people at our little lakes... at least until the fish run out... or until government shuts down the beaches like in California. You UK jokers only have a few miles to drive to the ocean to get your fish.

I wonder if, in all this CV propaganda, Fukushima has been dumping most of their radioactive water into the ocean without anybody noticing. Maybe all that radiation will naturally kill off CV in us, if we eat the radioactive fish, that is.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 30, 2020, 02:22:46 PM

Actually, there is a third method. Get out on the lake in a R₀w boat and do some fishing.

Cool

i done that yesterday. yep lockdown is not the same as being tied up and held hostage, you still have freedom of movement.
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anyways i think anything related to covid just blows over your head and you dont understand basics. so maybe find another topic to troll

edit to reply to below without bumping:
silly thing is .. troll below is in a 'dry state' but has a fish obsession/fetish right now.
he also himself CHOSE to give up on bacon but is now thinking about fish.
well he should learn to eat local. beef and pork and chicken are local in arizona. the reason you wont get fish has nothing to do with covid. its the fact he in a dry state.

in the UK i dont care if i cant get hold of dragon fruit (asian fruit) ill eat apples as thats local produce in my area. i dont care if i cant drink heinekan(netherlands) ill drink alcoholic cider
i live in an area of beef pork, poultry, plus loads of fruits and veg.
heck im only a 10 minute walk from a farm.
maybe its time you stop craving for fish and start looking at produce closer to home

by the way arizona is still making bacon
whats next. gonna blame china because you cant get exotic pangolin soup because china stopped making it
eat a arizona beef burger that you CAN get delivered to you, then shut up

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Quote from: Cnut237 on April 30, 2020, 05:23:04 AM

Quote from: franky1 on April 30, 2020, 03:56:39 AM

R0

We have two methods by which we can control and reduce the R₀.
Firstly, through measures such as quarantining and social distancing we reduce the number of contacts an infected person has.
Secondly, through the use of protective equipment, masks, hand washing, disinfecting etc we reduce the likelihood of transmission from the infected person.

But we will probably never know the 'natural' R₀, of how transmissible this thing is without people taking the above precautions. Obviously we've seen exponential growth in confirmed cases, but we have next to no idea about total cases, those with minor symptoms or who are asymptomatic, or indeed those that for whatever reason don't enter the official records. It is likely that there have been orders-of-magnitude more infections than the records state... which does have potentially profound implications for the progression towards herd immunity.

It is certainly important to track the R₀ as much as we can, but charts like the above that compare two 'knowns', in this instance total confirmed infections and new confirmed infections, do help tremendously in measuring the effectiveness of each government's response.

Actually, there is a third method. Get out on the lake in a R₀w boat and do some fishing.

Cool

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"Dr Buttar Accuses Fauci, Gates & The Media For Using COVID-19 To Drive Hidden Agenda"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbf9wccdxE

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Quote from: squatz1 on April 29, 2020, 09:49:06 PM

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Quote from: squatz1 on April 29, 2020, 09:22:59 PM

Been reading a good amount about the massive $2.2 trillion stimulus package. People are praising Congress for getting it done so quickly, as it is pretty crazy they were able to agree on something like this so swiftly. The issue is in what really matters, which is the execution of the bill itself.

The big part of the stimulus package was the Paycheck Protection Loan (PPL) which has been under fire recentley for giving too much freedom to the banks to not be equal in their processing of applications. In simple terms, banks were processing the applications of their wealthier clients first. There's also the issue of big companies receiving the PPL, when small businesses were heavily left behind.

Real shit show.

And then Trump and Mnuchin acted surprised and offended that rich people would dare take as much free federal money as the rules allowed.

That's going to be funny scene in a movie one day.

Oh that part is the part that's annoying me. It's also on the members of congress who wrote this bill and passed it, as they're also complicit in this happening as well. Everyone in Congress (and Trumps office) knows that you could've set stricter limits on this program but they didn't do it on purpose. Sigh.

Hopefully people that truly do need it get this money, instead of some huge companies that really are just trying to starve out the competition (smaller businesses) of funds that they needed yesterday.

Let me know when you hear of someone that truly did need it who got it.

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Quote from: franky1 on April 30, 2020, 03:56:39 AM

R0

We have two methods by which we can control and reduce the R₀.
Firstly, through measures such as quarantining and social distancing we reduce the number of contacts an infected person has.
Secondly, through the use of protective equipment, masks, hand washing, disinfecting etc we reduce the likelihood of transmission from the infected person.

But we will probably never know the 'natural' R₀, of how transmissible this thing is without people taking the above precautions. Obviously we've seen exponential growth in confirmed cases, but we have next to no idea about total cases, those with minor symptoms or who are asymptomatic, or indeed those that for whatever reason don't enter the official records. It is likely that there have been orders-of-magnitude more infections than the records state... which does have potentially profound implications for the progression towards herd immunity.

It is certainly important to track the R₀ as much as we can, but charts like the above that compare two 'knowns', in this instance total confirmed infections and new confirmed infections, do help tremendously in measuring the effectiveness of each government's response.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on April 30, 2020, 03:49:44 AM

For those who are interested in facts and data (we all are, right?) ... here is the best visualisation I've seen of how different countries compare on the journey of managing the CV-19 pandemic. Obviously we need a log scale for charting what is an exponential phenomenon, but this approach has log scale on both axes, with time implied through animation rather than being charted explicitly. This is quite a skilful approach to data visualisation.
Source is here.

i prefered to view it in the linear view. as it showed the difference in angle from non lockdown. vs the result of different countries counts after a 2 week effect of what the lockdowns caused.

take america which licked down mid march and only started to plateau 2-3 weeks later and flattened out after that
imagine the image without lockdown.. the scale wouldnt be stuck at just a 2mill pop scale. but a 2billion pop scale (imagining 1 in 5 had symptoms worthy of needing hospital treatment

but it has been good to see it in log scale to see that the infection rate before lockdowns is 2x in just 2 days. which puts the R0 at a median of about 5.7 rather than original thoughts of 2.6

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For those who are interested in facts and data (we all are, right?) ... here is the best visualisation I've seen of how different countries compare on the journey of managing the CV-19 pandemic. Obviously we need a log scale for charting what is an exponential phenomenon, but this approach has log scale on both axes, with time implied through animation rather than being charted explicitly. Countries that are achieving success drop away from the common trend line very dramatically. This is quite a skilful approach to data visualisation.
Source is here.

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Quote from: squatz1 on April 29, 2020, 09:22:59 PM

The big part of the stimulus package was the Paycheck Protection Loan (PPL) which has been under fire recentley for giving too much freedom to the banks to not be equal in their processing of applications. In simple terms, banks were processing the applications of their wealthier clients first. There's also the issue of big companies receiving the PPL, when small businesses were heavily left behind.

Real shit show.

this has to have some context.
yes some banks might have 'buddies' who have speed dial to get their application in first.
but its also these large companies that have all their accounts inline and set up using proper accounting services. thus validating the amount of employee's and salraries is easy.
however a sole trader/small business which has alot of staff turn over have messier accounts thus taking more time to sort out
the same thing has been happening in the UK too with their employee protection systems. large businesses just show their PAYE (pay as you earn staff tax contributions) where as smaller businesses might not even have staff that have been working for 1-3months or the values of pay vary due to getting commission. and even some people paid as self employed contractors.
it even got to the point of government saying people should apply for 'business interuption loans' which they can later pay back when they finally do get the pay-outs backdated

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