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Topic: Could Satoshi Nakamoto be the CIA/NSA? - page 4. (Read 4261 times)

newbie
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June 22, 2015, 10:58:29 AM
#28
Wow I never thought this thread would take a life of its own. Maybe I should do a kickstarter on creating a documentary on the life of satoshi.

To answer the naysayers about Open Source code, most people don't bother reviewing millions of lines of code for every open source product they download.

You go by what people say most of the time. And also a software team comprised of 8 people created the first Microsoft Windows 3.1x based on MSDOS.

Worldwide corporations don't need more than a skeleton staff of 70 people (including support staff which Bitcoin doesn't have) to run a successful multimillion forbes list company. You can keep everything contained quite nicely if you have the initial resources and manpower.

Kaspersky Labs in their analysis for the government said the blockchain can be used to deliver malicious payloads to targets.

Chew on those facts for a second.
hero member
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June 22, 2015, 10:48:01 AM
#27
Sounds more like some conspiracy theory fanatics to me.

Even his nickname sounds like a  freakin conspiracy theory to me. You know who fontas was right?

It makes for an awesome story though I tell you.

LOL , The monstrous LISTER STORM www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I6GWORyWHc


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June 22, 2015, 10:21:26 AM
#26
Could Satoshi Nakamoto be the CIA/NSA?
Only if CIA/NSA agents were somehow motivated to massively undermine power of their own government.

Or if he is FORMER CIA/NSA and has good reason to undermine their abuse of power...

honestly I have thought a lot about this and it really doesn't seem too far fetched to think he at least has some connection to cia/nsa/fbi just due to his ability alone to conceal his identity.  Lots of people TRY to conceal their identity, but for him to be in contact with people enough to hand over the whole project and never leave any trace of his identity sounds like it would take a lot, something that he was intentionally doing, possibly something he was trained to do
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
June 22, 2015, 10:17:54 AM
#25
Could Satoshi Nakamoto be the CIA/NSA?
Only if CIA/NSA agents were somehow motivated to massively undermine the power of their own government.
newbie
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June 22, 2015, 10:12:25 AM
#24
Sounds more like some conspiracy theory fanatics to me.

Even his nickname sounds like a  freakin conspiracy theory to me. You know who fontas was right?

It makes for an awesome story though I tell you.
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June 22, 2015, 10:11:01 AM
#23
Sounds more like some conspiracy theory fanatics to me.

the fact that you lump all "conspiracy theory fanatics" into one group, tells me you are not a very critical thinker.  Many topics that were once "conspiracy theories" have been proven true.  I dont need to list them here, I'll let you research that on your own.
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June 22, 2015, 10:07:16 AM
#22
Sounds more like some conspiracy theory fanatics to me.
newbie
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June 22, 2015, 10:06:12 AM
#21
What if bitcoin miners are being used to generate rainbow tables for cracking password hashes.

No.  They're not.

Anyway, try entering a wrong password more than 3 times on your online credit card or banking site.
See what happens.



What the OP was probably referring to is they crack the password hash that is stored in the dB. That way you don't need 3 tries, cause you get it on the first try.

I know this is unrelated to the thread, but OP, are you fontas by any chance? You know that your handle is "fontas" spelt backwards right?
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June 22, 2015, 10:04:53 AM
#20
God the title of the thread caught my attention so much, is actually pretty interesting and it could make has a movie a rough coder goes against the government to create a financial revolution.
legendary
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June 22, 2015, 10:00:02 AM
#19
What if bitcoin miners are being used to generate rainbow tables for cracking password hashes.

No.  They're not.

Anyway, try entering a wrong password more than 3 times on your online credit card or banking site.
See what happens.

newbie
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June 22, 2015, 09:57:45 AM
#18
What if bitcoin miners are being used to generate rainbow tables for cracking password hashes. It is a known fact that with a rainbow table you can crack a password hash in seconds rather than years, and in big-O notation brute-forcing passwords takes O(n2) time which would also take years for a 14+ character password.

I guess, there is no way that Satoshi Nakamoto belongs to Central Intelligence Agency or National Security Agency, If it is then Satoshi wouldn't be supporting Julian Assange during his crisis when U.S has banned him regards to his money or fund transactions through the main banks all over the world.

Sir, I think you have it backwards. Can you post a link or a reference to this?
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June 22, 2015, 09:56:05 AM
#17
the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact
I think we are overthinking this, a couple years ago on a forum there was a guy who acted just like that. Nobody knew his real name or any information and he only communicated via forums and occasionally email. Some people are very concerned about their privacy.

Yes, lots of people value their privacy, but to go to those lengths that "satoshi" did to keep his identity private to those he was WORKING DIRECTLY WITH and handing over the control of the forum/ control of bitcoin seem far fetched.  I mean at the time it was such a relatively obscure project with few users, why go to such lengths to hide your identity?  There's no way he could have known it would get this big.

Coming to think of it, why did he go to such lengths, and even after it became so big, why not take credit and be hailed as a hero? He wouldn't be prosecuted like Snowden would be. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain.

probably because if he did have some sort of cia/nsa connection, he would know that he would be targeted (just like snowden).  And he would know that the us govt/bankers do not like competition to the usd, which btc is.
sr. member
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June 22, 2015, 09:52:45 AM
#16
What if bitcoin miners are being used to generate rainbow tables for cracking password hashes. It is a known fact that with a rainbow table you can crack a password hash in seconds rather than years, and in big-O notation brute-forcing passwords takes O(n2) time which would also take years for a 14+ character password.

I guess, there is no way that Satoshi Nakamoto belongs to Central Intelligence Agency or National Security Agency, If it is then Satoshi wouldn't be supporting Julian Assange during his crisis when U.S has banned him regards to his money or fund transactions through the main banks all over the world.
full member
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June 22, 2015, 09:51:59 AM
#15
Bitcoin, if it were to gain mainstream adoption, would be the end of the NSA/CIA/governments/wars/etc.

I would love you to explain why you think it would be the end of NSA/CIA/GOVT and (WARS) please tell me you don't believe this fairytale?

OP I doubt very much he has anything to do with either 3 letter agency who want to use the miners to crack passwords, they can already do this without the need for so much hashing power. Plus where is it going to be hid in open source?

 
newbie
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June 22, 2015, 09:49:14 AM
#14
the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact
I think we are overthinking this, a couple years ago on a forum there was a guy who acted just like that. Nobody knew his real name or any information and he only communicated via forums and occasionally email. Some people are very concerned about their privacy.

Yes, lots of people value their privacy, but to go to those lengths that "satoshi" did to keep his identity private to those he was WORKING DIRECTLY WITH and handing over the control of the forum/ control of bitcoin seem far fetched.  I mean at the time it was such a relatively obscure project with few users, why go to such lengths to hide your identity?  There's no way he could have known it would get this big.

Coming to think of it, why did he go to such lengths, and even after it became so big, why not take credit and be hailed as a hero? He wouldn't be prosecuted like Snowden would be. There is nothing to lose and everything to gain.
hero member
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June 22, 2015, 09:41:43 AM
#13
the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact
I think we are overthinking this, a couple years ago on a forum there was a guy who acted just like that. Nobody knew his real name or any information and he only communicated via forums and occasionally email. Some people are very concerned about their privacy.

Yes, lots of people value their privacy, but to go to those lengths that "satoshi" did to keep his identity private to those he was WORKING DIRECTLY WITH and handing over the control of the forum/ control of bitcoin seem far fetched.  I mean at the time it was such a relatively obscure project with few users, why go to such lengths to hide your identity?  There's no way he could have known it would get this big.
hero member
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June 22, 2015, 08:52:09 AM
#12
the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact

Snowden was not a CIA agent.

He was a contractor working on a CIA project.

Yes he was a CIA agent doing computer work, after he was medically discharged from the army.  Clearly you haven't followed his case too closely.

He was not an agent at the time of the leaks/NSA revelations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden#CIA
newbie
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June 22, 2015, 08:46:25 AM
#11
the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact

Snowden was not a CIA agent.

He was a contractor working on a CIA project.

True, but the access he had was akin to root access (sysadmin). A field operative would be the lowest on the totem pole (as people understand CIA agents as the Bourne guy).

A desk guy working in a NOC or SOC would get tons of access and the bigger picture. Everything has to pass through you. That was the level of access Snowden had though.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
June 22, 2015, 08:36:58 AM
#10
the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact

Snowden was not a CIA agent.

He was a contractor working on a CIA project.
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June 22, 2015, 08:33:33 AM
#9
the whole fact that EVERYONE involved with btc claims to have never met "satoshi" but only communicated with "him" though this forum or email does seem strange to me.  If you read about edward snowden he used similar tactics (he was a CIA agent) to hide his identity until he knew it was safe to talk to the journalists he was communicating with.

Then again, maybe they all have met satoshi and are just saying they "never met him" to keep the whole secrecy thing in tact
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