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Topic: Could Satoshi Nakamoto be the CIA/NSA? - page 5. (Read 4261 times)

legendary
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June 22, 2015, 08:20:53 AM
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As I said in my show that I did in San Mateo, California, the New Living Expo, the NSA good guys [made Bitcoin.]
 
There are good guys in every intelligence agency.
 
[The NSA good guys] did make Bitcoin to have a backup so that if the Federal Reserve tries to crash the dollar, we can reboot our currency off of Bitcoins.
 
And Bitcoins cannot be tampered with. They cannot be hacked.
 
Goldman recently bought a bunch of Bitcoins. They see the writing on the wall.

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1180-ssp-revealed
legendary
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June 22, 2015, 07:06:04 AM
#7
That would have been a bit impossible with Open Source code availlable to other countries, who have also VERY talented software engineers.

This is not to say that they have not tried it before.. Take the whole hardware backdoor that was built into Cisco routers a while ago. There were many countries who did not even know that this existed, until it was
found and exposed to the public.

According to the NSA whistleblowers, they have loads of hidden access to many VPN's / ISP's etc. etc... So it would not surprise me at all, if they did try to sneak it past us in a update.

Gavin did visit them, and he was one of the lead engineers in the field. It would be a massive hit to the Bitcoin community, IF they tried that shite.  
hero member
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June 22, 2015, 07:02:58 AM
#6
The CIA or NSA want to crack passwords. So, instead of simply building a chip that hashes data using various hashing algorithms, the CIA or NSA develops a revolutionary payment system with the hope that four years later some Chinese dudes are motivated to develop chips that do a very specific kind of hashing that might not even be useful for cracking passwords.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Indeed it does make sense.
The OP is right.
They are cracking passwords as we speak.
Shit, they cracked my password just now.... Shocked
In fact, this is them posting this.... Roll Eyes


LOL!
Sorry, I couldn't help it Tongue
legendary
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June 22, 2015, 06:02:23 AM
#5
Bitcoin, if it were to gain mainstream adoption, would be the end of the NSA/CIA/governments/wars/etc.
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June 22, 2015, 05:57:19 AM
#4
there's no need for NSA or other similar agencies (too many) to invent a damn complex crypto currency in order to get hashing power to crack passwords lol

they can achieve way more without any cracking

have a look at this talk to refresh your ideas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILAlhwUgIU

 Wink
legendary
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June 22, 2015, 02:16:48 AM
#3
The CIA or NSA want to crack passwords. So, instead of simply building a chip that hashes data using various hashing algorithms, the CIA or NSA develops a revolutionary payment system with the hope that four years later some Chinese dudes are motivated to develop chips that do a very specific kind of hashing that might not even be useful for cracking passwords.

Yeah, that makes sense.
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June 21, 2015, 08:13:01 PM
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newbie
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June 21, 2015, 07:38:42 PM
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What if bitcoin miners are being used to generate rainbow tables for cracking password hashes. It is a known fact that with a rainbow table you can crack a password hash in seconds rather than years, and in big-O notation brute-forcing passwords takes O(n2) time which would also take years for a 14+ character password.

Now to generate a rainbow table with character set 0-9, a-z, A-Z, + all special characters (@!#$%^&*(){}/*-+_=) would also take years to generate in advance if you don't have access to a distributed grid of computers dividing the processing power between themselves. And it costs quite abit of BTC to buy processing power from the cloud. And coming to think of it, aren't the bitcoins miners doing just that?

Here's the genius part. What if the CIA/NSA devised a way so that the bitcoin miners are actually generating the rainbow hashes needed to crack any password up to 64 characters in length. Wouldn't that practically give them access to any corporation + home wifi + any account needed?

I can think of a multitude of applications to the bitcoin distributed network, not excluding DDOSing, generating hashes for different types of decoding algorithms such as MD5, SHA1 (which are the most commonly used to protect passwords in databases), etc. Even the term that miners are generating hashes gives you the slight doubt that, what if?

Alright you might argue that now developers are using salt mechanism, but still...its food for thought. Any fanboys who read the code, care to give their opinion? Now don't get me wrong, I'm just inserting the notion of what if? I quite like the uses of bitcoin myself.
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