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December 16, 2014, 09:01:26 AM
#71
hack_ can you post your performance figures for momentum, or maybe link them to me?
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December 16, 2014, 08:07:53 AM
#70
I have a lot of HeavyCoin that I mined back in the days of launch. I think it is basically worthless now though.
Also, I tried mining RieCoin with i7-4770k to no avail
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December 16, 2014, 04:14:48 AM
#69
Monero is CPU minable. GPU does not have much advantage. CPU mining is more efficient in terms of hash/J.

100% agreed. Still, I mine something else and gives me about 2x of the income monero would give me.
Just.. yeah... income is decreasing... the usual story: diff goes high, price goes low...
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December 15, 2014, 09:21:33 PM
#68
CPU mining was nice before everything got all crazy, it would be nice to have a coin stick to CPU mining and be well distributed

CPU mining is not good for any coin as it can be taken over by botnets. The coin has to quickly evolve to at least support GPU to survive.

and mining with gpu's is better how? Ever heard of a GPU farm?

GPU farm VS BOTNET VS ASIC

it is like comparing a tractor, a bus and lambo

They are all vehicles but each tailored to complete a task. an ILLEGAL BOTNET is something to discuss, but not any Tom Dick and Harry that has access/owns server farms or thousands of desktop computers.

Exactly. Each company has certain problems to deal with. Each coin has certain problems to deal with. You'll never find anything that doesn't have to.
The question is, does the developer try to find solutions against those problems.
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December 15, 2014, 09:18:28 PM
#67
CPU mining was nice before everything got all crazy, it would be nice to have a coin stick to CPU mining and be well distributed

So what do You think should I make with free resources? I don't want to waste it.

Check out Magi, we appreciate your CPU ressources!

Find more here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-xmg-magi-cpu-mining-mpow-mpos-magipay-735170
and here
http://cryptomining-blog.com/4017-coin-magi-xmg-cpu-only-alternative-crypto-currency/
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December 15, 2014, 03:01:41 PM
#66
CPU mining was nice before everything got all crazy, it would be nice to have a coin stick to CPU mining and be well distributed

CPU mining is not good for any coin as it can be taken over by botnets. The coin has to quickly evolve to at least support GPU to survive.

and mining with gpu's is better how? Ever heard of a GPU farm?

GPU farm VS BOTNET VS ASIC

it is like comparing a tractor, a bus and lambo

They are all vehicles but each tailored to complete a task. an ILLEGAL BOTNET is something to discuss, but not any Tom Dick and Harry that has access/owns server farms or thousands of desktop computers.
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December 15, 2014, 02:09:24 PM
#65
CPU mining was nice before everything got all crazy, it would be nice to have a coin stick to CPU mining and be well distributed

CPU mining is not good for any coin as it can be taken over by botnets. The coin has to quickly evolve to at least support GPU to survive.
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December 15, 2014, 12:50:59 PM
#64
he he
only cpu mining:
http://magi.nonce-pool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool
Current Active Workers    628 !!!!

top
7718.83  KH/s  ->   228.485 XMG/Day

amd fx 8350 -> 30 ,,,33  KH/s

7718/ 33 = 234 amd fx 8350

 1 amd fx 8350 = 120 Watt
234 amd fx 8350 = 120 * 234 = 28080 Watt

(24 *  28080)/1000 = 674 kW/h

674 * 0.04 = 26.96 $ - > 27 $

228.485 XMG * 0.0001 = 0.022848 btc -> ~ 8.2 $

and so ...
costs at least 27 $  to get the most out in 8.2 $

such business  Undecided

CPU only mining dead?  Cheesy
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December 15, 2014, 11:45:04 AM
#63
Asking this kind of question usually doesn't get you any good answers.
Why that?
Everybody would like to get a small slice of the CPU mining, because everybody has CPU that stay, most of the time, unused.
But if I would shout that coin X is better for CPU mining, in a couple of days diff gets crazy, price goes down and it's all over.
You have to do some homework by yourself. Maybe you get lucky. Maybe not.


Sorry if you find this answer "evil". I hope I was actually helpful.
CPU mining has hard times now. Monero used to be for quite some time the best choice for CPU. Afaik those times are gone too.
Good luck!

I get what you are saying. Thats why in the start of the topic we talked about people "in the know". Hopefully this thread will become the one people use to point people to CPU mineable coins.

I am trying to work on merged mining for a cpu-gpu algo.

So far on the Cards is HEFTY---HeavyCoin and Momentum--ProtoShares
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December 15, 2014, 11:27:19 AM
#62
Asking this kind of question usually doesn't get you any good answers.
Why that?
Everybody would like to get a small slice of the CPU mining, because everybody has CPU that stay, most of the time, unused.
But if I would shout that coin X is better for CPU mining, in a couple of days diff gets crazy, price goes down and it's all over.
You have to do some homework by yourself. Maybe you get lucky. Maybe not.


Sorry if you find this answer "evil". I hope I was actually helpful.
CPU mining has hard times now. Monero used to be for quite some time the best choice for CPU. Afaik those times are gone too.
Good luck!
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December 15, 2014, 11:14:15 AM
#61
CPU mining was nice before everything got all crazy, it would be nice to have a coin stick to CPU mining and be well distributed


So what do You think should I make with free resources? I don't want to waste it.
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December 15, 2014, 10:38:16 AM
#60
CPU mining was nice before everything got all crazy, it would be nice to have a coin stick to CPU mining and be well distributed
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December 15, 2014, 09:37:06 AM
#59
Heard that Bytecent is just a SCAM,
Any profitable alternative? Lookin for this from a long of time...
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December 14, 2014, 07:44:50 AM
#58
Bytecent i already spoke out against it's so called restrictions SEE ABOVE.

To keep things on track , let me recap

1) Anything that your desktop can do , any other cpu can do
2) Using memory limitations has to be within realistic limits ~ 1-2 GB per thread (meaning a quad core will push 8 GB) 16 GB with hyper-threading
3)using gimmicks like captcha or codes to mine is undesirable since mining is a "fire and forget" system
4) Limitations that do not affect block generation/blockchain are USELESS as they can be coded/commented out.
5) use of other restrictions ie minimum balance eg etc creates barriers to entry, forces people to buy ICO and is downright dishonest.

 


There's a reason why these coins doesn't exist: people like you trying to make money with botnets or workplaces/schools computers.

It's been game over for guys like you for a long time, just accept it.

Actually, all the CPU coins that can even mildly be called a success all meet most or all the above criteria. Intelligent discussion please, not trolling or promoting. We have no interest in your coins of choice, we are more interested in technical specs and GPU/CPU ratios
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December 14, 2014, 07:41:47 AM
#57
I actually prefer cpu/gpu coins. More users can mine it, and less prone to botnets. Many coins like this around - CryptoNote, Scrypt-Chacha,...
I like YAC  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annyac-yacoin-ongoing-development-206577 and it can actually become CPU coin soon (as N grows gpus become less efficient).

i loved YAC, was among the first to mine it. The dev did a quick runner though. I have a alternate algorithm i am pursuing, have you tried the original OneCoin? its a variation of scrypt-jane
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December 14, 2014, 06:23:39 AM
#56
I actually prefer cpu/gpu coins. More users can mine it, and less prone to botnets. Many coins like this around - CryptoNote, Scrypt-Chacha,...
I like YAC  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annyac-yacoin-ongoing-development-206577 and it can actually become CPU coin soon (as N grows gpus become less efficient).
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December 14, 2014, 06:04:40 AM
#55
Bytecent i already spoke out against it's so called restrictions SEE ABOVE.

To keep things on track , let me recap

1) Anything that your desktop can do , any other cpu can do
2) Using memory limitations has to be within realistic limits ~ 1-2 GB per thread (meaning a quad core will push 8 GB) 16 GB with hyper-threading
3)using gimmicks like captcha or codes to mine is undesirable since mining is a "fire and forget" system
4) Limitations that do not affect block generation/blockchain are USELESS as they can be coded/commented out.
5) use of other restrictions ie minimum balance eg etc creates barriers to entry, forces people to buy ICO and is downright dishonest.

 
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December 14, 2014, 05:40:53 AM
#54
The only CPU mineable coin not dominated by botnets is Bytecent http://www.bytecent.com/

What makes it 'not dominated by botnets'? Is it so worthless that even the dont bother?

You can go and read the ANN here http://coinblab.com/forums/topic/24/bytecent-byc-removing-barriers-with-innovation

It's the only coin with ICO that never went below ICO price, so I would not call it worthless.

Why cant you answer what makes it botnet resistant?

I know that boys in your age are confused and have a lot of questions in their head, but don't get frustrated. If you are interested in Bytecent, you can find answers by clicking on the links. Cheers!

Any CPU coin will eventually be botnet dominated. I am not interested nor heard of the coin you mention. Cheers for the effort though, just wanted a line from you to know what they were claiming.
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December 14, 2014, 05:13:09 AM
#53
The only CPU mineable coin not dominated by botnets is Bytecent http://www.bytecent.com/

What makes it 'not dominated by botnets'? Is it so worthless that even the dont bother?

You can go and read the ANN here http://coinblab.com/forums/topic/24/bytecent-byc-removing-barriers-with-innovation

It's the only coin with ICO that never went below ICO price, so I would not call it worthless.

Why cant you answer what makes it botnet resistant?
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December 14, 2014, 04:55:45 AM
#52
The only CPU mineable coin not dominated by botnets is Bytecent http://www.bytecent.com/

What makes it 'not dominated by botnets'? Is it so worthless that even the dont bother?
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