Topic: CPU only mining dead? - page 4. (Read 8137 times)
Looking for CPU mining on 32-core with 128GB I just looked at Riecoin on an exchange: trading halted until new block has been found (>2 weeks now!). Seems that it's cpu-only alright, which is strange for RIE wants to find primes I believe
DO keep us updated please
http://cpucoinlist.com/
Devvie
twitter.com/devnullius
Having trouble syncing, 2 weeks since the last block...too long, I guess that's the problem with one direction difficulty adjustment.
I'm having fun playing with other cpu algos on my private net. I'll be sure to update
Looking for CPU mining on 32-core with 128GB I just looked at Riecoin on an exchange: trading halted until new block has been found (>2 weeks now!). Seems that it's cpu-only alright, which is strange for RIE wants to find primes I believe
DO keep us updated please
http://cpucoinlist.com/
Devvie
twitter.com/devnullius
Riecoin?
Final verdict on first implementation of momentum:
Pretty good at discouraging GPU if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10
I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.
I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?
you can't really reduce the effectiveness of botnets without hurting cpu/gpu ratio. Pretty good at discouraging GPU if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10
I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.
I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?
One attempt was done to create an antibotnet coin (so to speak) by requiring huge amount of memory (>32Gb, more than most computer, mine included... ) assuming botnets runs on standard to low-end computers... but that was just stupid, in my opinion...
I just finished testing HeavyCoin and Memorycoin, I think there is a future for momentum. Barwizi's NoirShares 2.0 version left me with some questions though.
Memorycoin's performance was almost similar to the first implementation.
HeavyCoin is actually surprising that it is not popular. People seem to have become so focused on the asic race, that all these great attempts at keeping gpu and cpu mining alive are just being ignored.
I can see how increasing the required ram can affect botnets , but overall, I guess one needs to fond middle ground.
So from this list, only NoirShares 2.0 is still cpu only, mineable with reference client. I would love to see this put to the test though, Barwizi was accused of some nasty stuff , so it would be great to have some independent analysis of the code.
I'll look into KryptoKash now and report in later.
There is some gpu resistance as they compute a rather long hash, but that's it.
That's rather disappointing, but after todays irc , I finally understood. Basically what I got it that the moment a currency gains enough popularity and has a good price as incentive, then a gpu miner will somehow pop up.
Since I am in no way a hash function expert I guess that's it for now until someone designs or modifies an existing one to fit the bill.
Do you have any clear idea what was done to create neo-scrypt?
I have an idea, I'm gonna try it out later tonight for fun and just to see if it's even possible.
What is the lowest hashrate you have ever seen? on NoirShares, I was getting 3 - 4 hashes per minute only with a i5 desktop
Ah, I remembered something, do you know the original OneCoin ? Seems it uses a unique algorithm as well.
Final verdict on first implementation of momentum:
Pretty good at discouraging GPU if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10
I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.
I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?
you can't really reduce the effectiveness of botnets without hurting cpu/gpu ratio. Pretty good at discouraging GPU if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10
I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.
I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?
One attempt was done to create an antibotnet coin (so to speak) by requiring huge amount of memory (>32Gb, more than most computer, mine included... ) assuming botnets runs on standard to low-end computers... but that was just stupid, in my opinion...
I just finished testing HeavyCoin and Memorycoin, I think there is a future for momentum. Barwizi's NoirShares 2.0 version left me with some questions though.
Memorycoin's performance was almost similar to the first implementation.
HeavyCoin is actually surprising that it is not popular. People seem to have become so focused on the asic race, that all these great attempts at keeping gpu and cpu mining alive are just being ignored.
I can see how increasing the required ram can affect botnets , but overall, I guess one needs to fond middle ground.
So from this list, only NoirShares 2.0 is still cpu only, mineable with reference client. I would love to see this put to the test though, Barwizi was accused of some nasty stuff , so it would be great to have some independent analysis of the code.
I'll look into KryptoKash now and report in later.
There is some gpu resistance as they compute a rather long hash, but that's it.
Final verdict on first implementation of momentum:
Pretty good at discouraging GPU if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10
I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.
I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?
you can't really reduce the effectiveness of botnets without hurting cpu/gpu ratio. Pretty good at discouraging GPU if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10
I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.
I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?
One attempt was done to create an antibotnet coin (so to speak) by requiring huge amount of memory (>32Gb, more than most computer, mine included... ) assuming botnets runs on standard to low-end computers... but that was just stupid, in my opinion...
I just finished testing HeavyCoin and Memorycoin, I think there is a future for momentum. Barwizi's NoirShares 2.0 version left me with some questions though.
Memorycoin's performance was almost similar to the first implementation.
HeavyCoin is actually surprising that it is not popular. People seem to have become so focused on the asic race, that all these great attempts at keeping gpu and cpu mining alive are just being ignored.
I can see how increasing the required ram can affect botnets , but overall, I guess one needs to fond middle ground.
So from this list, only NoirShares 2.0 is still cpu only, mineable with reference client. I would love to see this put to the test though, Barwizi was accused of some nasty stuff , so it would be great to have some independent analysis of the code.
I'll look into KryptoKash now and report in later.
I think I'll start a thread to keep track of cpu only coins and hopefully by keeping others in the know, they will return the favour
Today Kryptohash a new false cpu only coin was released (GPU coin without miners is more exact... keccak+ long hash to be hashed through sha256), but I discovered it discussing other things on irc... so now, yes it is probably better to be in the know to find those coins...
Not really. There are more Shitcoins than days on a calendar. Just ignore them, trade on top marketcaps. Easy! Also, why does it seem like all cpu coins start with very low difficulty? Almost zero difficulty, meaning that they were all instamined by those in the know.
Anyone ever mined HeavyCoin?
I mined Heavycoin, but it was already a gpu coin... Anyone ever mined HeavyCoin?
But at the time when HVC got launched there wasn't 10 coins/day, so it was rather easy to follow and spot on the announcement thread, now it is just madness. Nevertheless some were ninja launched: x13, fugue (RIP) and some other with low diff.
Actually the low diff is justifiable by the fact that there is only cpu at launch, so you need a lower difficulty...
Today Kryptohash a new false cpu only coin was released (GPU coin without miners is more exact... keccak+ long hash to be hashed through sha256), but I discovered it discussing other things on irc... so now, yes it is probably better to be in the know to find those coins...
Final verdict on first implementation of momentum:
Pretty good at discouraging GPU if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10
I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.
I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?
you can't really reduce the effectiveness of botnets without hurting cpu/gpu ratio. Pretty good at discouraging GPU if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10
I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.
I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?
One attempt was done to create an antibotnet coin (so to speak) by requiring huge amount of memory (>32Gb, more than most computer, mine included... ) assuming botnets runs on standard to low-end computers... but that was just stupid, in my opinion...
Also, why does it seem like all cpu coins start with very low difficulty? Almost zero difficulty, meaning that they were all instamined by those in the know.
Anyone ever mined HeavyCoin?
Anyone ever mined HeavyCoin?
Final verdict on first implementation of momentum:
Pretty good at discouraging GPU if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10
I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.
I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?
Btw , thanks for all the replies, the information is very useful
Pretty good at discouraging GPU if the price is right, but if it ever goes high enough, then the difference between cpu and GPU becomes more apparent. Overall I guess it gets 6.5-7 / 10
I'll be testing memorycoin now and I'll post about my findings later. Throughout the day tomorrow I'll test all the suggested coins and algorithms respectively.
I wonder if there's a way of reducing the effectiveness of botnets. Any ideas guys ?
Btw , thanks for all the replies, the information is very useful
Memorycoin was the only coin that had botnetless CPU mining.
Other than that, CPU mining is long botted (dead)
Other than that, CPU mining is long botted (dead)
That's what the CPU miners want you to think. They are lurking with their price charts to determine exactly when AWS instances become profitable. The big guys can fire up hundreds of instances within 30 seconds.
Monero is CPU minable. GPU does not have much advantage. CPU mining is more efficient in terms of hash/J.
Memorycoin was the only coin that had botnetless CPU mining.
Other than that, CPU mining is long botted (dead)
Other than that, CPU mining is long botted (dead)
So you mean the memorycoin implementation is better? I haven't had a chance to really look at the difference.
I'll test it out later , I want to first compare the balances of my gpu vs cpu NoirShares 1.0 .
If you don't want complicated stuff just go for GPU hard algorithms, while not completely CPU only, the GPU advantage is quite small.
The current version I use was developed by Dan, Freetrade and modified by a gpu miner dev. Even with CPU mining , it effectively relies more on luck than processor power.
when usually I read "modified by a gpu miner dev" (to make it gpu hard), I always think "yeah right... good one..." The current version I use was developed by Dan, Freetrade and modified by a gpu miner dev. Even with CPU mining , it effectively relies more on luck than processor power.
Anyhow, you probably made a gpu dev very happy
(well... keeping in mind that the last time at look at noirshares, there was 25% gpu dev fee... may-be he just doesn't care, he always raped the coins no matter what... )So who else would be expected to know how to code against gpu implementation?
Also YOU ARE A LIAR , there was never a mining fee for NRS.
Also I have absolutely no reason to lie on gpu miner fee (who gives the shit ?). I mine NRS after launch and there was a gpu miner with 25% fee, I even complained about it as each time it got disconnected, it was just restarting mining for the gpu dev (that a smart one
).But if you don't know it is ok to say "I don't know", no reason to call others "liar" over your own ignorance.
To be honest, if someone was asking me to make a cpu only coin, gpu resistant. I would probably refuse... (well with enough btc...
) because having a gpu dev doing this would probably cause more FUD on the coin than anything else.I managed to get a copy of the original NRS and the material surrounding momentum.
I found lots of miners, some you pay some you don't, some mine a bit to some hard coded address , some whack shit.
but the actual momentum is pretty interesting, I am testing out the difference between GPU vs CPU and while the difference is noticeable, it's not as bad as I've seen elsewhere.
Barwizi, why did you change it?
Memorycoin was the only coin that had botnetless CPU mining.
Other than that, CPU mining is long botted (dead)
Other than that, CPU mining is long botted (dead)
If you don't want complicated stuff just go for GPU hard algorithms, while not completely CPU only, the GPU advantage is quite small.
The current version I use was developed by Dan, Freetrade and modified by a gpu miner dev. Even with CPU mining , it effectively relies more on luck than processor power.
when usually I read "modified by a gpu miner dev" (to make it gpu hard), I always think "yeah right... good one..." The current version I use was developed by Dan, Freetrade and modified by a gpu miner dev. Even with CPU mining , it effectively relies more on luck than processor power.
Anyhow, you probably made a gpu dev very happy
(well... keeping in mind that the last time at look at noirshares, there was 25% gpu dev fee... may-be he just doesn't care, he always raped the coins no matter what... )So who else would be expected to know how to code against gpu implementation?
Also YOU ARE A LIAR , there was never a mining fee for NRS.
Also I have absolutely no reason to lie on gpu miner fee (who gives the shit ?). I mine NRS after launch and there was a gpu miner with 25% fee, I even complained about it as each time it got disconnected, it was just restarting mining for the gpu dev (that a smart one
).But if you don't know it is ok to say "I don't know", no reason to call others "liar" over your own ignorance.
To be honest, if someone was asking me to make a cpu only coin, gpu resistant. I would probably refuse... (well with enough btc...
) because having a gpu dev doing this would probably cause more FUD on the coin than anything else.
Check out MagiCoin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735170.0;topicseen
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